Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

[DisEnchantment]

Speculate at will

 

[Glo.]

He has always been like that or is this since he's back at Intel ?

Pat is devout Christian.

 

[arcky]

this is fairly tuned 7800x3d + 4090, -20 co, 8000c34 2x24gb. scored over 30k in Port Royal just before running this bench so about the most I've been able to squeeze out of this hardware combo. fresh install of 24h2 latest LCU. i think i matched the settings? just chose 1280x720 for resolution and only changed first drop down in graphics settings to the standard (laptop) preset, didn't touch anything else. that 9800x3d score is a 28.8% improvement, so like spot on to the other comparables (cb23 mt is 28.9% higher than my best, cheesed 7800x3d score of 19594 at -40 CO) . This is actually insane

I scored 30 006 in Port Royal

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 x 1, 49152 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}

www.3dmark.com

 

[leegionero]

looks like better than most of 7800x3d .
9950x co-10 cs-20 pbo+50 6200 c28 full tuned timing

 

[Saylick]

this is fairly tuned 7800x3d + 4090, -20 co, 8000c34 2x24gb. scored over 30k in Port Royal just before running this bench so about the most I've been able to squeeze out of this hardware combo. fresh install of 24h2 latest LCU. i think i matched the settings? just chose 1280x720 for resolution and only changed first drop down in graphics settings to the standard (laptop) preset, didn't touch anything else. that 9800x3d score is a 28.8% improvement, so like spot on to the other comparables (cb23 mt is 28.9% higher than my best, cheesed 7800x3d score of 19594 at -40 CO) . This is actually insane

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I scored 30 006 in Port Royal

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 x 1, 49152 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}

www.3dmark.com

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looks like better than most of 7800x3d .
9950x co-10 cs-20 pbo+50 6200 c28 full tuned timing

Nice first posts.

 

[Makaveli]

This is what I see on a tuned 5800X3D -30 CO + 7900XTX that 62k score is a nice uplift.

 

[Hitman928]

Some saying that the 62K score was using chilled water. Either way, it’s probably higher than even an average person with an AIO can achieve. Still a really great score, but given that and it being just one game, trying to temper expectations a little.

 

[jimbomanx]

Good morning,

This is my 5800x3d with -25 CO with 7900xtx on Win 10.

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

X3D really is a cult, one leak and we have multiple new accounts.

 

[Gideon]

Good morning,

This is my 5800x3d with -25 CO with 7900xtx on Win 10.

Nice. Yeah it seems it's not that GPU limited. My 5800x3d with -30 CO all cores (4550 Mhz max clocks) with RTX 4090 only did 33504 (despite giving a OK cinebench score of 14256):

I guess switching the GPU also plays a role (though I did use DDU). Nevertheless will try to clean some more and install updates and try again.

Whichever way you slice it, the 9900X3D score seems reallly good

 

[Sunaiac]

So here's my entry for the cult :

5800x3d / asrock taichi x470 / 7900 xtx / 32gb 3600 CL 15 XMP / "PBO2 tuner.exe" -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 -30 95 60 90 0
Windows 11 24H2 (upgraded from previous versions, never reinstalled), catalyst 24.9.1

FINAL FANTASY XIV: Dawntrail Benchmark Ver. 1.1
Tested on: 10/21/2024 17:59:33
Score: 37070
Average Frame Rate: 260.1343
Minimum Frame Rate: 108
Performance: Extremely High
-Easily capable of running the game on the highest settings.
Loading Times by Scene
Scene #1 0.185 sec
Scene #2 2.727 sec
Scene #3 6.393 sec
Scene #4 2.752 sec
Scene #5 1.534 sec
Total Loading Time 13.591 sec

 

[Sunaiac]

How do 4 5800X3D get 33k, 37k, 40k and 42k lol ?

 

[tsamolotoff]

Still a 17.5% uplift. Maybe adroc was talking about the X3D compared to a 7950X

My best result with 7950x3d (102.5eclk + CO + minus fmax 125) + 6900xt (2800/2124), but I'm certain with nvidia GPU you can get higher score (i think dom had like 55k or something earlier?)

 

[Saylick]

There is some Xitter chatter about the 9800 X3D potentially having the cache die UNDER the CCD this time, but it’s mostly stemming from AMD marketing Zen 5 X3D as being “reimagined “.

 

[Markfw]

How do 4 5800X3D get 33k, 37k, 40k and 42k lol ?

video cards ????

 

[Gideon]

There is some Xitter chatter about the 9800 X3D potentially having the cache die UNDER the CCD this time, but it’s mostly stemming from AMD marketing Zen 5 X3D as being “reimagined “.

Yeah, i still find it hard to believe. But if this were the case i wonder if it would also be possible that the X3D chips are more different than we think? E.g. having full bandwidth to every CCD, etc ...

 

[Sunaiac]

video cards ????

3 7900XTX, one 4090, the 4090 is the 33k one !
I'm guessing freshness of OS install, running programs in background and memory setup

edit : maybe PCIe gen counts too. I'm on x470 so x16 gen3.

 

[Joe NYC]

The score is there, right on the screenshot

Thx, I must have been blind.

 

[tsamolotoff]

Some saying that the 62K score was using chilled water.

MORA Lisa more likely, but in games your cooling quality doesn't really matter even with the current 'thick structural silicon on top' x3d

How do 4 5800X3D get 33k, 37k, 40k and 42k lol ?

There are some actually CPU bound parts of the benchmark, while other segments (like the dungeon/raid and various parts of the world exploration) are basically capped at whatever framerate your GPU can produce (my 6900xt was consuming 300W+ even with all settings to minimum and upscaling enabled @ 1024x768)

 

[coercitiv]

How do 4 5800X3D get 33k, 37k, 40k and 42k lol ?

The ones with lower scores still carry doubt in their hearts. /s

 

[Sunaiac]

The ones with lower scores still carry doubt in their hearts. /s

bro.
I'll try a fullscreen run to see if it differs.

 

[biostud]

The ones with lower scores still carry doubt in their hearts. /s

23H2 vs ryzen patch vs 24H2?

 

[Sunaiac]

OK two more tests :

- fullscreen, all background apps closed : 37569 (no screenshot sorry)
- windowed, after fullscreen test, still all closed : 38471
- as a reminder, my previous score 37070 (second run after a very bad one with many browsers/crap opened that gave like 28k)

I'm too lazy to do more runs, but it seems doing at least two runs back to back and closing every active app + tray stuff (steam, etc...) can give dividends. (+1500 pts total here)

 

[PJVol]

How do 4 5800X3D get 33k, 37k, 40k and 42k lol ?

Easy :
Win11, Win11, Win10 and Win10

 

[Sunaiac]

Easy :
Win11, Win11, Win10 and Win10

Oh yes, I looked at the version numbers (10.0.19XXX, 10.0.26XXX) and didn't even realize those where not all win 11 haha 👍

 

[PJVol]

didn't even realize those where not all win 11

Yeah, I've almost gotten used to notice the rounded corners of app window on screenshots first, lol