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MarkPost

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I have done some testing and this isnt a 24H2 optimization. It happens with any other Windows 11 version: I have tested it with 21H2 (several games), and the very same gains I see with 24H2 going from a standard (admin) account to the built-in administrator account, I see them with 21H2 too. Just the same.
 
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MarkPost said:
I have done some testing and this isnt a 24H2 optimization. It happens with any other Windows 11 version: I have tested it with 21H2 (several games), and the very same gains I see with 24H2 going from a standard (admin) account to the built-in administrator account, I see them with 21H2 too. Just the same.
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This is different than the small gains seen previously by using the admin account. You shouldn’t need to use the admin account to see these gains, just have 24H2.
 
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Hitman928 said:
This is different than the small gains seen previously by using the admin account. You shouldn’t need to use the admin account to see these gains, just have 24H2.
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No, there is no difference in perfomance between 21H2 and 24H2; you only see gain perfomance using built-in admin account, and this is common for these two windows versions
 
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MarkPost said:
No, there is no difference in perfomance between 21H2 and 24H2; you only see gain perfomance using built-in admin account, and this is common for these two windows versions
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Do you see a difference between 23H2 and 24H2 without the admin account? That is what HWUB tested in the video today.
 
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Lol. Only geeks could get salty about a free 0 to 30% performance improvement!

Be interesting to see if my 5800x3d gets a boost but I think that I'm pretty GPU bound most of the time!
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There are some (admittedly niche - Stellaris comes to mind) situations where my standard Zen 3 cores on my 5950X are holding back my 7800XT. I'm looking foward to seeing any testing HUB or GN can do with Zen 3 / Zen 3 X3D.
 
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Seems there are now some GB6.3.0 ST scorea surpassing 3500 points in the database for Ryzen 9 9950X.

ASUS System Product Name - Geekbench

Benchmark results for an ASUS System Product Name with an AMD Ryzen 9 9950X processor.
browser.geekbench.com

Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-7D69 - Geekbench

Benchmark results for a Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-7D69 with an AMD Ryzen 9 9950X processor.
browser.geekbench.com


Some look likely to be OCed in some way (~5900 clock), but some are at 5725-5775 MHz which may be achievable with stock boost?

There is no way of looking at Windows 11 version used to see if there is the 24H2 branch-prediction flushing overhaul at work?
 
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Hitman928 said:
So are you suggesting that 23H2 was a large regression in performance or that you think HWUB’s data is bad?
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No, notice that the 23H2 results come from their first 9700X review. (so, normal account, no built-in account). On the contrary, their 24H2 numbers are with built-in admin account.
 
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MarkPost said:
No, notice that the 23H2 results come from their first 9700X review. (so, normal account, no built-in account). On the contrary, their 24H2 numbers are with built-in admin account.
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Nope.
These tests are with no built-in admin account.

They tested in a previous video with the built-in admin account, but in this video is normal account vs normal account
 
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GaiaHunter said:
Nope.
These tests are with no built-in admin account.

They tested in a previous video with the built-in admin account, but in this video is normal account vs normal account
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I dont think so. Some of my numbers (9950X with 6800XT, low resolution, low settings to avoid GPU bottleneck):

Call of Duty Modern Warfare II:
21H2 (normal admin account): 417fps
24H2 (normal admin account): 405fps

21H2 (built-in admin account): 420fps
24H2 (built-in admin account): 406fps

Dying Light 2:
21H2 (normal admin account): 330.47fps
24H2 (normal admin account): 328.41fps

21H2 (built-in admin account): 330.14fps
24H2 (built-in admin account): 331.78fps

Far Cry 6:
21H2 (normal admin account): 243fps
24H2 (normal admin account): 246fps

21H2 (built-in admin account): 251fps
24H2 (built-in admin account): 254fps

Rainbow Six Extraction:
21H2 (normal admin account): 447fps
24H2 (normal admin account): 459fps

21H2 (built-in admin account): 524fps
24H2 (built-in admin account): 529fps

The Riftbreaker:
21H2 (normal admin account): 212.98fps
24H2 (normal admin account): 212.59fps

21H2 (built-in admin account): 229.01fps
24H2 (built-in admin account): 228.24fps

I see a very similar behavior between these two win versions.
 
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MarkPost said:
I dont think so. Some of my numbers (9950X with 6800XT, low resolution, low settings to avoid GPU bottleneck):

I see a very similar behavior between these two win versions.
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That doesn't change what they stated - both versions were using normal admin account.
Are HWU numbers correct? Are your numbers correct? Does it benefit Nvidia GPUs more than AMD GPUs?

No idea.
 
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atokuz said:
Someone already ran the benchmarks with X3d chip on AMD subreddit. 12% more scores on Geekbench!


https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1f21tlk/quick_tests_on_7800x3d_with_windows_11_24h2
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Looking only at GB6 the before results are extremely low and suspect.
Even the after results are lower than a stock 7800X3D in an old build of Windows 11.
The poster says they had a bunch of background programs open which makes it almost useless results - who knows if the programs were doing much more background work in run A vs run B.
 
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Does UAC works in built-in Admin account? If it does, I would switch to Admin account. Otherwise most windows software won't work.
 
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