Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

[DisEnchantment]

Speculate at will

 

[Tup3x]

Dang, I did not expect AMD Fine Wine to apply to their CPUs…

More like it feels like AMD treats its users as eternal beta testers...

 

[jpiniero]

Just Microsoft things.

 

[DisEnchantment]

Is there someone who tested applications with this new build. Some Workstation Pro or Visual Studio, etc.? Would be nice to see some results or no gains?

 

[Det0x]

Is there someone who tested applications with this new build. Some Workstation Pro or Visual Studio, etc.? Would be nice to see some results or no gains?

Looking at linux vs windows results from Wendel, i'm sure there is something to be had in other workstations apps beside gaming

 

[Josh128]

lol somebody run Geekbench 6 with Zen 5 and the new Windoze 11 2H24 update, pronto. Wouldnt it be ridiculous if scores increased to match Linux after the update?

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

lol somebody run Geekbench 6 with Zen 5 and the new Windoze 11 2H24 update, pronto. Wouldnt it be ridiculous if scores increased to match Linux after the update?

Strix is slower in Windows compared to Linux anyway, and all the laptops are shipped with the 24H2 update.

 

[yottabit]

So Mike Clark wasn’t lying when he said it would take the software time to catch up

Just none of us thought “the software” could be Windows OS and the time to catch up would be a week or two

This makes their delayed launch look even more stupid, why wouldn’t they have waited for this update first? Maybe AMD thought it would be out sooner?

Wonder if there is a snowball’s chance this will be backported to Win10

 

[Josh128]

Strix is slower in Windows compared to Linux anyway, and all the laptops are shipped with the 24H2 update.

True, but we never had a point of reference for Strix without the update. Even if it still doesnt match Linux, if its + 2% or 3% from what we have currently, its something tangible.

 

[gdansk]

Truly one of the most bizarre launches of all time.

 

[Markfw]

Wonder if there is a snowball’s chance this will be backported to Win10

I hope so. I hate win 11 and will not run it.

 

[Jan Olšan]

I hope so. I hate win 11 and will not run it.

Unlikely, W10 is on its way out and in extended support (which means only security fixes are promised).

 

[Glo.]

All of this stuff gives more fuel for...

Console gaming, over PC gaming.

This is horrendous.

Also.

This fiasco also gives more fuel to NOT use Windows. Like ever.

 

[Kocicak]

So Mike Clark wasn’t lying when he said it would take the software time to catch up. Just none of us thought “the software” could be Windows OS and the time to catch up would be a week or two

Huh? What about those TWO YEARS since Zen 4 release?

 

[KompuKare]

If this bring substantial gains for Zen3, then I think this a major embarrassment. Don't get me wrong, free performance is great, but to see something like this nearly 4 years after Zen 3? That's crazy!

 

[igor_kavinski]

Come on, guys! Stop complaining. Be grateful for once

Say, thank you, AMD. Thank you, Microsoft.

/topic

 

[IEC]

Literally "download more FPS"

LOL

 

[HurleyBird]

Intel users, after one year of usage loose 10% performance
AMD users, after one year of usage gain 10% performance .

I genuinely feel a bit bad now for people who bought Raptor Lake for its gaming performance.

 

[Mahboi]

I'm talking in general terms, the idea that something can't be delayed because it wasn't put in a public roadmap is incredibly stupid.

Watch delayed | Streamable

Watch "delayed" on Streamable.

streamable.com

Really makes you think.

 

[Mahboi]

Literally "download more FPS"

LOL

Me and the people I've talked to are all legitimately very confused:
Should we be mad that for years we lost ~10% gaming performance and possibly also productivity perf?
Should we be happy that we suddenly gain ~10% performance 4 entire years after Zen 3 came out and 2 years after Zen 4?

We're all very, very, very confused about how to feel about AMD...

STOP AUTISTICALLY GIVING ME THOUGHT OUT RESPONSES
IT'S A JOKE POST

 

[Mahboi]

More like it feels like AMD treats its users as eternal beta testers...

It's Tech. We're all in a Beta test for 10 years.
Well, you can even get semi religious and say that it's Life, we're all God's beta testers for existence.

 

[biostud]

Me and the people I've talked to are all legitimately very confused:
Should we be mad that for years we lost ~10% gaming performance and possibly also productivity perf?
Should we be happy that we suddenly gain ~10% performance 4 entire years after Zen 3 came out and 2 years after Zen 4?

We're all very, very, very confused about how to feel about AMD...

Well you bought it with the advertised performance, and now you get something extra. Also, if they had known about the performance issue and fixed it they would have charged more for their processors, so if anyone should be mad it is the AMD shareholders

 

[GaiaHunter]

Me and the people I've talked to are all legitimately very confused:
Should we be mad that for years we lost ~10% gaming performance and possibly also productivity perf?
Should we be happy that we suddenly gain ~10% performance 4 entire years after Zen 3 came out and 2 years after Zen 4?

We're all very, very, very confused about how to feel about AMD...

One assumes the purchase was made based on the known performance, so more performance can only be good.

But it should be known by now that from Intel, Nvidia and AMD, AMD is the worst at getting the most performance from hardware via software optimisations, probably because they historically were the lowest marktshare and/or had the least resources to spend on it.

 

[PJVol]

It's Tech. We're all in a Beta test for 10 years.

Personally, I'm fine with this, unless my CPU suddenly dies due to a circuit failure (which hasn't happened to any of my five Zen's so far)

 

[Thibsie]

I genuinely feel a bit bad now for people who bought Raptor Lake for its gaming performance.

Since those deteriorate themselves, why don't we talk about half life, (no, not the game) of RPL ?
There're really too many neutrons.

 

[inquiss]

Me and the people I've talked to are all legitimately very confused:
Should we be mad that for years we lost ~10% gaming performance and possibly also productivity perf?
Should we be happy that we suddenly gain ~10% performance 4 entire years after Zen 3 came out and 2 years after Zen 4?

We're all very, very, very confused about how to feel about AMD...

You paid the price based on the lower performance and you get the extra performance now. Had these chips performed as well as with this update they may have cost more. You paid the price of the lower performance, were happy with that, then got the extra performance without paying. Don't see how this is a bad thing at all.