Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

[DisEnchantment]

Speculate at will

 

[Josh128]

That s the numbers from the italian guy, beside this poster is a rabid intel shill and badmouther when it comes to AMD, dont pay attention to this trash spreader.

Oh bro I know, I frequent WCCFTECH, lol. But the graphic legit looks like it was from VideoCardz. Perhaps VideoCardz had an article about the Italian guy that I missed that this was snipped from.

 

[Abwx]

Oh bro I know, I frequent WCCFTECH, lol. But the graphic legit looks like it was from VideoCardz. Perhaps VideoCardz had an article about the Italian guy that I missed that this was snipped from.

Videocardz compiled the numbers of the italian guy that got a chip a few weeks ago.

Edit : The guy did a test with a non final bios, the launch was postponed due to errors in CPUs markings but apparenty also to finalize the bioses.

 

[gdansk]

Dont know if this is legit or not, looks like this guy obtained a VCZ gaming slide.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1820959423449461070

I rather the thread be dead and calm than repeating discussion from weeks ago:

Italian Zen 5 Review: Ryzen 9 9900X falls short against Ryzen 7 7800X3D in gaming - VideoCardz.com

Ryzen 9 9900X vs 7800X3D in gaming SaddyTech has the world’s first gaming review of Zen5. Italian tech reviewer SaddyTech has obtained a sample of AMD’s upcoming Ryzen 9 9900X processor shortly before its launch. Officially, these processors are set to be released next week, but it seems there...

videocardz.com

 

[gdansk]

Comparing to X3D is bad faith (and misleading without stating that in his claim), its actually impressive that its this close.

It wasn't a bad faith comparison, it is what the tester had available.

It isn't a good comparison but given it was a week before the planned launch it is excusable in my eyes.

 

[CakeMonster]

Yeah, to be clear I was referencing the guy who did the clapback tweet to AMD for the bad faith phrasing. The guy who benchmarked indeed just tested what he could.

 

[Rheingold]

Apple has a clear lead in perf/w and that’s on N3B but N3B and N4P isn’t that big of a node difference in efficiency. But that 12 core M3 is really expensive so Apple loses in perf/$.

Also, for a good share of enthusiasts, Apple silicon is completely irrelevant. If you can't buy the chip, put it on a board and combine it with a high-end graphics card, then it might just as well not exist.

 

[poke01]

Also, for a good share of enthusiasts, Apple silicon is completely irrelevant. If you can't buy the chip, put it on a board and combine it with a high-end graphics card, then it might just as well not exist.

Pretty sure that was a laptop chart... This is also a Strix thread.

 

[Goop_reformed]

Hearing from some people gaming performance review tomorrow isn't good

 

[Chicken76]

Dont know if this is legit or not, looks like this guy obtained a VCZ gaming slide.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1820959423449461070

Looks fake. 'Fornite' really? I know videocardz is not the paragon of tech journalism, but I'm sure their writers can spell Fortnite, or at least their proofreaders can.

 

[gaav87]

Looks fake. 'Fornite' really? I know videocardz is not the paragon of tech journalism, but I'm sure their writers can spell Fortnite, or at least their proofreaders can.

Its from the 9900x vs 7800x3d from the italian guy on yt with buged MT perf gigabyte beta bios and 1:2 timings 7200mt/s so at minimum expect 5% better perf then this fps numbers could be even as high as 10%

 

[eek2121]

AMD WHHERE IS MAH X3D? Oh, gamescom? really?

3 hours and 43 minutes until embargo ends for single CCD parts.

 

[lixlax]

Makes sense considering what we know so far. I'm expecting ~5-10% above non X3D 7000 series, but not long until we find out.

 

[Josh128]

Hearing from some people gaming performance review tomorrow isn't good

I predicted ~10% gaming improvement a while back. Based on leaks we've seen since then, it wouldnt surprise me if it struggles to even hit that now.

 

[soresu]

Also, for a good share of enthusiasts, Apple silicon is completely irrelevant. If you can't buy the chip, put it on a board and combine it with a high-end graphics card, then it might just as well not exist.

Most especially can't use it with their Windows centric software library.

Ironically you can do that for the most part with Linux now 😅

 

[cebri1]

Are they really releasing without independent reviews available. Why are companies so shady nowadays?

 

[majord]

Are they really releasing without independent reviews available. Why are companies so shady nowadays?

The reviews are in 2 hrs, the releases are a day behind that IIRC

 

[cebri1]

The reviews are in 2 hrs, the releases are a day behind that IIRC

I thought they were coming out tomorrow. I still don't know why they are so afraid of independent reviews. Allow consumers 3-4 days to go over several outlets.

 

[yottabit]

Are they really releasing without independent reviews available. Why are companies so shady nowadays?

Because consumers allow them to be

 

[cebri1]

Because consumers allow them to be

We are going to get to a point where consumers are going to become reviewers.

 

[gaav87]

First review of 9700x
TLDR: Slower then 7800x3d and 14th gen in gaming. Beta asrock bios. Wierd 4.5ghz all core in cinebench. AIO Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360. temp 61°C in cinebench ppt~88w
After unlocking PBO ppt:150w R23 results +23%. Also some ipc test 4.5ghz vs 4.5ghz. Enjoy.

Ryzen 7 9700X test i recenzja - warto kupić?

Sprawdziłem Ryzen 7 9700X? Jak wypada w testach i czy warto go kupić na te pytania znajdziecie odpowiedź w naszej recenzji.

3d-info.pl

 

[techjunkie123]

First review of 9700x
TLDR: Slower then 7800x3d and 14th gen in gaming. Beta asrock bios. Wierd 4.5ghz all core in cinebench. AIO Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360. temp 61°C in cinebench ppt~88w
After unlocking PBO ppt:150w R23 results +23%. Also some ipc test 4.5ghz vs 4.5ghz. Enjoy.

Ryzen 7 9700X test i recenzja - warto kupić?

Sprawdziłem Ryzen 7 9700X? Jak wypada w testach i czy warto go kupić na te pytania znajdziecie odpowiedź w naszej recenzji.

3d-info.pl

Fine wine... fine wine...

*Huffs copium*

 

[gaav87]

Fine wine... fine wine...

*Huffs copium*

He wrote there was a new agesa after he finished benching. Also all the tests are done stock 88w ppt. Only cb r23 with 150w ppt with huge 23% gains.

 

[mostwanted002]

Fine wine... fine wine...

*Huffs copium*

Well he did mention, that unlocking PPT gave significantly better results. and not to mention Beta BIOS 🤔🤔🤔

 

[CouncilorIrissa]

First review of 9700x
TLDR: Slower then 7800x3d and 14th gen in gaming. Beta asrock bios. Wierd 4.5ghz all core in cinebench. AIO Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360. temp 61°C in cinebench ppt~88w
After unlocking PBO ppt:150w R23 results +23%. Also some ipc test 4.5ghz vs 4.5ghz. Enjoy.

Ryzen 7 9700X test i recenzja - warto kupić?

Sprawdziłem Ryzen 7 9700X? Jak wypada w testach i czy warto go kupić na te pytania znajdziecie odpowiedź w naszej recenzji.

3d-info.pl

So a work-in-progress basically.
Should've delayed to september.

Low gaming uplift is expected given low integer throughput gains.

 

[gaav87]

So a work-in-progress basically.
Should've delayed to september.

Low gaming uplift is expected given low integer throughput gains.

Or at least to gamescon. Then tease the new boards and maybe some rdna4 rumor