Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

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yuri69

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Hm...is JS used by many programms? I have no idea tbh...
Sadly, JS has been the daily driver for like 90+% of *standard* workloads.

* browsers - ranging from Anandtech formus, FB chat, YT videos, Google Docs, or even fully embedded VSCode IDE or Excel
* Electron-based apps - Slack, Teams, or Discord IMs; next-gen Outlook; VSCode or Sublime IDEs
* Node.js-based backends
 

PJVol

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Needs translation:
Fortnite 7%
Passmark 11%
R23 1T 20%
7-Zip 28%
V-Ray CPU 33%
Metro Exodus 38%
Dolphin Bench 71%
WPrime 86%
Avg 3?%.
So this is a perf. increase over Zen 4, not an IPC increase? (keeping in mind the rumoured clocks being + ~3-4% )
 
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PJVol

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Sadly, JS has been the daily driver for like 90+% of *standard* workloads
Unlikely it's 90%. Surely for some JS accounts for a large share, but in my case it’s 10-20% at most, the rest is gaming, JRT, native (QT Creator), etc.
 
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yuri69

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Unlikely it's 90%. Surely for some JS accounts for a large share, but in my case it’s 10-20% at most, the rest is gaming, JRT, native (QT Creator), etc.
Try to think out of your power-user bubble.

Think about the average PC workload. The wast majority of PCs is used for office work. These days it usually means interacting with one or more webapps in a browser. Plus Electron(-ish) Teams/Outlook if the corp goes the MS way.
 

inf64

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Well, either way, the clock difference is not as big as with the previous gens (maybe this is what was meant by “Avg 3?%” ?)
No, the poster was implying the average IPC is 3x% ( meaning between 30 and 39%). Clocks seem to be roughly the same or a slightly higher for ST with Zen 5. Overall it looks like a total pwnage.
 

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I really can't wait for AMD to disclose Zen 5. If the rumors are true, it seems AMD will sit on a throne looking from the top of the world. Very nice feeling to see such jump Gen over Gen in the x86 world again.

Granted, the margins play that Adroc has been drumming since ever mean that systems aimed at folks with lower budgets will only be able to taste Zen 5 a few generations from now? I get why AMD would position Z5 as a premium thing. But it's worrying that they're simply conceding the budget laptop market to RPL 282 (And MTL 241 in the future). I want competition😁
 
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PJVol

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Think about the average PC workload. The wast majority of PCs is used for office work. These days it usually means interacting with one or more webapps in a browser. Plus Electron(-ish) Teams/Outlook if the corp goes the MS way.
Without disputing the distribution by type of PC use in the consumer segment, it is worth noting that for those you mentioned, even Zen4 is too much.