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It s indicative that, at best for them, some reviewers at NBC are amateurish,
beside this score is used in their perfs average score of a CPU.
 
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I wonder if these 9950X3D2 benchmark results are from engineering samples so we’re going to see further improvements later.
 
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ngocnghith2 said:
The IPC gains on Granite Ridge are what I’m watching. If the rumors about the wider execution engine are true, we might finally see a massive jump in single-core performance. I’m holding off on a platform upgrade until the official benchmarks drop.
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Dude what? Granite Ridge came out in 2024 . . .
 
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One posted in a year's old thread the other day about anticipating the performance of a gen 9 mobile processor from Intel. They're getting sneaky.
 
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I may have missed it in all the excitement.
The so-called "Gorgon Point" includes two dies? I.e. one name replaces both Kraken and Strix Point?
 
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gdansk said:
I.e. one name replaces both Kraken and Strix Point?
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Yes.

AI 7 445 is the single SKU "branding" of the year candidate.
It is 2+4, lower clocked, 8MB L3 vs AI 5 340(3+3, 16MB L3), yet promoted to "AI 7". Not that others don't have naming issues but this is amusing.
 
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regen1 said:
Yes.

AI 7 445 is the single SKU "branding" of the year candidate.
It is 2+4, lower clocked, 8MB L3 vs AI 5 340(3+3, 16MB L3), yet promoted to "AI 7". Not that others don't have naming issues but this is amusing.
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Sneaky. I hadn't paid much attention to the 400 series since it seemed like a straightforward +100MHz rename. But making some of the new SKUs worse than the preceding SKU is malicious.
 
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ASUS TUF Gaming A14 (2026) FA401EA - Tech Specs｜Laptops For Gaming｜ASUS Global

ASUS TUF Gaming A14. Portable powerhouse. AMD Ryzen AI Max+ 392 & Radeon 8060S Graphics. Lightweight 1.48kg design with dual SSD slots. Built tough, stays cool.
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ASUS China has started selling variant of A14 for around ~USD$1437 with AMD 392 (12-core Zen5 + RDNA3.5 40CU), 32GB 256-bit LPDDR5x + 1TB SSD. How do you think of pricing? :rolleyes:
 
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Tigerick said:

ASUS TUF Gaming A14 (2026) FA401EA - Tech Specs｜Laptops For Gaming｜ASUS Global

ASUS TUF Gaming A14. Portable powerhouse. AMD Ryzen AI Max+ 392 & Radeon 8060S Graphics. Lightweight 1.48kg design with dual SSD slots. Built tough, stays cool.
www.asus.com www.asus.com

ASUS China has started selling variant of A14 for around ~USD$1437 with AMD 392 (12-core Zen5 + RDNA3.5 40CU), 32GB 256-bit LPDDR5x + 1TB SSD. How do you think of pricing? :rolleyes:
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Same price as this one :


Or this one :


Do the maths.
 
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Apparently AMD is preparing Gorgon Halo, the Strix Halo refresh with a couple more MHz on CPU and GPU clocks.




AMD also decided to produce some slides where they compare Panther Lake to the Gorgon/Strix range. They're clearly positioning 256bit Halo against 128bit Panther Lake in these, so I'm expecting the price they demanded for Halo to go down drastically. However, for 15-20W handhelds I still expect Panther Lake's G3 series to come out on top of Halo, not to mention support for the latest ML-based upscalers and similar RT performance.


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Fjodor2001 said:
9850X3D has same perf as 9800X3D according to this:

wccftech.com

Early Leaks Reveal AMD Ryzen 7 9850X3D Delivers Overall Same Performance As 9800X3D

Some users have already started posting benchmarks of AMD Ryzen 7 9850X3D before the launch. The performance is similar to the 9800X3D.
wccftech.com wccftech.com

Need 9950X3D2 perhaps to get better performance.
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Clearly BS. There are number of opportunities for boost clock to go up 400 MHz, when the CPU is not thermally limited.

Upcoming reviews will show (modest) performance gains across the board, with some exceptions.
 
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Joe NYC said:
Clearly BS. There are number of opportunities for boost clock to go up 400 MHz, when the CPU is not thermally limited.

Upcoming reviews will show (modest) performance gains across the board, with some exceptions.
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Yeah, perhaps some tiny gains. But 9950X3D2 will perform better, so that’s what to get if you care about bragging rights.
 
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Fjodor2001 said:
Yeah, perhaps some tiny gains. But 9950X3D2 will perform better, so that’s what to get if you care about bragging rights.
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Yeah, bragging rights. But 9850x3d is the one that will bring the big $$$s.

Interestingly, AMD is charging very modest $20 premium at $499. Which is what I would have done as well. $500 is a magic number for CPU that you don't exceed if you want to call it a mainstream CPU.

Which will be a bit of a problem for Zen 6, to keep it under $500. Maybe sub-12-core models.
 
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Joe NYC said:
Yeah, bragging rights. But 9850x3d is the one that will bring the big $$$s.

Interestingly, AMD is charging very modest $20 premium at $499. Which is what I would have done as well. $500 is a magic number for CPU that you don't exceed if you want to call it a mainstream CPU.

Which will be a bit of a problem for Zen 6, to keep it under $500. Maybe sub-12-core models.
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It’s just a mid/late-life kicker to grab attention. Will not bring any substantial perf improvements. For those buying a completely new system anyway it may be worth buying.

But otherwise it’s just bragging rights. And if that’s what you’re aiming for, better to wait for 9950X3D2.
 
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Fjodor2001 said:
It’s just a mid/late-life kicker to grab attention. Will not bring any substantial perf improvements. For those buying a completely new system anyway it may be worth buying.

But otherwise it’s just bragging rights. And if that’s what you’re aiming for, better to wait for 9950X3D2.
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If they have the bins, and can get extra money for them, then it is just a good business decision. In addition to a good PR move.

There will be a new wave of publicity when these parts get tested in a week or so.
 
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ToTTenTranz said:
That's 25W, not 15-20W. At 15W, Strix Halo is barely faster than Strix Point:

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Plus, Timespy is a synthetic GPU test that won't take much power from the CPU, which benefits the GPU in power constrained scenarios.


That's why Panther Lake should be significantly faster than Strix Halo at lower power budgets.
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strix halo is not meant for 15watts

it scales linearly between 25 watts & 55 watts

medusa halo might operate at a wider power range. possibly.
 
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