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igor_kavinski said:
Wow. You must've gotten the rare untainted samples! Good for you.

By the way, which mobos were hosting them?
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A z790 hero and a z790 strix e i think. The strix i put in my aunts pc with a 12900k. The z790 hero is going on ebay. Maybe because I don't overclock is why I didn't see any degradation but it still worried me in the back of my mind.
 
Amazon shipped the 9800X3D yesterday... by ground shipping due in 6 days.

I triple checked the invoice clearly states one-day shipping. They keep doing this to me. I swear my account was flagged as "ignore promised shipping speed and aways ship slowest possible method"

I feel like making a complaint will be about as effective as old man Simpson yelling at the cloud.
 
Hail The Brain Slug said:
Amazon shipped the 9800X3D yesterday... by ground shipping due in 6 days.

I triple checked the invoice clearly states one-day shipping. They keep doing this to me. I swear my account was flagged as "ignore promised shipping speed and aways ship slowest possible method"

I feel like making a complaint will be about as effective as old man Simpson yelling at the cloud.
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When I ordered my x870e from Amazon it said 2 days as well. Then after I checked it switched to Tuesday of next week. I canceled and ordered from newegg. That's why I check my orders shipping times with amazon.
 
Hail The Brain Slug said:
Amazon shipped the 9800X3D yesterday... by ground shipping due in 6 days.

I triple checked the invoice clearly states one-day shipping. They keep doing this to me. I swear my account was flagged as "ignore promised shipping speed and aways ship slowest possible method"

I feel like making a complaint will be about as effective as old man Simpson yelling at the cloud.
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I just ordered memory from them several identical items (I thought) and I saw next day delivery. But when my cart came up, it was 5 days !! Then I went back to the list. ONE was next day, the rest were not. So I deleted the item from my cart, went back and carefully selected the next day. That was my experience.
 
Markfw said:
I just ordered memory from them several identical items (I thought) and I saw next day delivery. But when my cart came up, it was 5 days !! Then I went back to the list. ONE was next day, the rest were not. So I deleted the item from my cart, went back and carefully selected the next day. That was my experience.
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The difference here is that you're being notified before purchase about the difference in promise time. My post-sales invoice states one-day day shipping. I already paid and Amazon has given this sales contract to me in writing, yet they've chosen to ignore it.
 
Hail The Brain Slug said:
The difference here is that you're being notified before purchase about the difference in promise time. My post-sales invoice states one-day day shipping. I already paid and Amazon has given this sales contract to me in writing, yet they've chosen to ignore it.
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Thats a first. Is this in the US ?
 
Markfw said:
Thats a first. Is this in the US ?
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Yep. They've been doing this to me for a while, so I stopped ordering anything I really care about/expensive items/urgent stuff from them. Kind of disappointed this is where I got a 9800X3D ordered from, but since it went into fulfillment right after I ordered it last week it's been uncancelable.

I would just order somewhere else and send it back, but I am 100% convinced someone will steal it and Amazon will hassle me. It happened before when I returned an SSD. Amazon was happy to just never refund me because "they never received it" even though I had proof of return to the UPS store.

They made me fill out a form to request them to consider giving me my own money they legally owe me back.

Amazon really switched fast from "customer obsession" to one of the most anti-consumer, law-breaking retailers of all time when Bezos stepped down. If I didn't live somewhere I don't have access to many things and am forced to rely on Amazon for certain types of items, I would boycott them entirely.
 
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Reminds me of a local online store that after a few years of excellent service, devolved so bad that they shipped my order from US to Dubai and then sent it back without informing me. And the note in their CRM system said that "customer" refused to take the shipment. Someone obviously messed up big but they all tried to pin the snafu on me (even their American named Supervisor via email) despite no evidence of what they claimed. Then adding insult to injury, they tried to remediate things by offering me the princely discount of something like $16. I blew a gasket and told them that my time was worth far more than that, got my refund and never returned.
 
Haven't built a rig in half a decade but this cpu convinced me it was enough to do another motherboard/ram trifecta so I just placed an order on Amazon and will likely pick up a board and ram on black friday. Is cas30 ddr5 6000 speed enough for gaming for this thing?
 
Sonikku said:
Haven't built a rig in half a decade but this cpu convinced me it was enough to do another motherboard/ram trifecta so I just placed an order on Amazon and will likely pick up a board and ram on black friday. Is cas30 ddr5 6000 speed enough for gaming for this thing?
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Perfect !
 
igor_kavinski said:
Maybe now's a good time to post the 720p Final Fantasy Dawntrail standard laptop score with your Bulldozer Piledriver so we can see what kind of CPU performance uplift you get with the 9800X3D 🙂
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Edit: FTFY
I think I will still be GPU limited but point me to link for this test I'll see what I can do.

I have time, been waiting for it to cool down so I can crank the Mhz back up, also need a NVME drive. Preferably 4-8 TB.
 
igor_kavinski said:
na.finalfantasyxiv.com

FINAL FANTASY XIV: Dawntrail Official Benchmark

The official site for the FINAL FANTASY XIV: Dawntrail benchmark.
na.finalfantasyxiv.com na.finalfantasyxiv.com
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quick info, first run was whatever default was which was 1080p high, was 9xxx somewhere in there.

Then reset hwinfo monitors, set to 780p laptop, and never seen over 80% cpu usage, the first one did peg it out at full speed. The 780p never even hit max frequency. IDK.

Thoughts, this is also at 4.6 and GPU at stock.

EDIT: temps never really were noticeable.

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Will pretty much any 800 series motherboard be able to overclock the 9800X3D? I am doing a white rgb build (don't hate on me) so it is a bit of a premium, but beyond that I don't really want to have to blow half a grand on a board if it's mostly just more high usb inputs or something.
 
Sonikku said:
Will pretty much any 800 series motherboard be able to overclock the 9800X3D? I am doing a white rgb build (don't hate on me) so it is a bit of a premium, but beyond that I don't really want to have to blow half a grand on a board if it's mostly just more high usb inputs or something.
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Yes and No. Since the only boards released so far are X870 yes they should be able to OC the 9800X3D. However when the rest of the boards get released the B850 will OC, while the B840 series will NOT be able to OC any CPU.

Also, the X670 and B650 boards will be able to OC the 9800X3D. I used the MSI B650 Edge on my build (all white) and have been very happy with it.
 
I decided Im gonna grab a MSI MPG Carbon for my build, seems solid with the right IO I desire. (50$ steam credit to offset price to 450$)
Maybe a Asrock Nova but the Carbon is going to be my 1st choice.

Would I be dumb to buy ram w/o expo profiles? I like GSkill but the 96GB kits dont have expo configs.
Im not gonna go crazy on speed just 6400 (Maybe 6800).
 
blackangus said:
I decided Im gonna grab a MSI MPG Carbon for my build, seems solid with the right IO I desire. (50$ steam credit to offset price to 450$)
Maybe a Asrock Nova but the Carbon is going to be my 1st choice.

Would I be dumb to buy ram w/o expo profiles? I like GSkill but the 96GB kits dont have expo configs.
Im not gonna go crazy on speed just 6400 (Maybe 6800).
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I recently gave a shot to buying XMP ram. It didn't go well. Something no one knows or talks about is not all PMICs are supported properly by agesa, and buying an EXPO kit guarantees you get something that is supported and will work.

The kit I bought from Corsair had MPS (Monolithic power systems) PMICs which are known to not function correctly according to oc circles. Didn't learn that until after I spent 12 hours trying to figure out why the ram wouldn't work right/had errors/caused weird system hangs no matter how I configured it.

Personally this experience will make me never buy a non-EXPO kit ever again. I postulate that the people who have used XMP kits without issue have been fortunate to get kits with the right PMICs to work on AM5.

G.Skill announced 2x48GB 6000C28 EXPO kits back in July, so I've relegated myself to waiting for those to hit the market.
 
Sonikku said:
Will pretty much any 800 series motherboard be able to overclock the 9800X3D? I am doing a white rgb build (don't hate on me) so it is a bit of a premium, but beyond that I don't really want to have to blow half a grand on a board if it's mostly just more high usb inputs or something.
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