Zen 2 APUs/"Renoir" discussion thread

[dark zero]

He mentions many times in testing various hardware, with this or that CPU-s you will not have problems checking Mail etc."I hope he's not trying to be a bad comedian".I can check Mail without any problem(Gmail)on old PC(Asrock AM2+ motherboard doesn't want to die)with Dual Core Athlon II from 2010.

Let's get back to the topic, hm interesting combination or as expected Zen2+RDNA2 iGPU+LPDDR 5 system memory.

Well, you can fit that under 7000 label because Zen 4/7000 Desktop CPU series use identical iGPU.

Makes me wonder how fares against the Ryzen 3 5300U. I got a laptop with it for 280 dollars.

 

[jpiniero]

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Mendocino lives! Although it's the dual core Athlon Gold model and $400.

 

[Zepp]

so mendocino is the Dali/Pollack replacement with Zen2 cores and integrated RDNA2?

 

[Asterox]

Prices are falling, or a welcome rain of cheap Zen 2/Renoir CPU-s.

Protis - Greška

www.protis.hr

Jus as an example, Dual Core Alder Lake 2/2 Celeron G6900 price is 67euro.

The poor Japanese finally breathed a sigh of relief.

AMD's cheap quad-core Ryzen 3 4300G APU launches for Japanese DIY market - VideoCardz.com

AMD Ryzen 3 4300G launches for DIY market in Japan The 2020 Ryzen 4000G CPU now available through retail. AMD is not saying farewell to the Zen2 architecture just yet. In fact, the processors from Steam Deck’s Van Gogh or PlayStation/Xbox are not the only Zen2 processors still in production...

videocardz.com

 

[LightningZ71]

Sadly, they are missing an opportunity to bin a 4390g with a fully enabled iGPU that plays in the microdesktop market for a few dollars more.

 

[BorisTheBlade82]

C'n'C has an article about Van Gogh.
As always, this is some of the best tech stuff, you can find on the whole Internet (I already donated again, today 😁).

• LPPDR5 performance is borderline disastrous, except for one single very important aspect: GPU memory bandwidth
• The CCX and cores seem unchanged - no crippled FPU like in the big consoles.
• The L3 behaves weird.
• All in all nevertheless a well balanced design that is quite up to the task it was made for.

Van Gogh, AMD’s Steam Deck APU

Zen 2’s launch was a defining moment for AMD.

chipsandcheese.com

 

[jpiniero]

AMD Launches Zen 2-based Ryzen and Athlon 7020C Series For Chromebooks

www.anandtech.com

Mendocino lives again! This time in Chromebooks. AMD for some reason claims that they had to make a separate SKU for Chromebooks, but the specs are otherwise the same.

They did manage to get at least Dell on board so it's not just Asus.

 

[moinmoin]

In Germany laptops containing Mendocino appear to be readily available from Acer (14 configurations), HP (35) and Lenovo (11):

Notebooks mit Codename AMD: Mendocino Preisvergleich Geizhals Deutschland

Preisvergleich und Bewertungen für Notebooks mit Codename AMD: Mendocino

geizhals.de

 

[moinmoin]

Renoir will be available as automotive grade chips in the Ryzen Embedded V2000A Series:

AMD Announces Automotive-Grade Ryzen Embedded V2000A Series - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

 

[misuspita]

Considering what aging pieces of shh... the car industry uses, this Renoir will be a rocket. Hopefully they will be incorporated in 2025 and onward products

 

[SteinFG]

Does anyone know why there're no mendocino mini PCs? 7320U would be a great alternative for N100 or even N305, the die size is just 100mm², and it's on an older 6nm node. But all I see in amazon or aliexpress for under 200 dollars is N100/N95 and Ryzen 3000 (AKA Zen +) options.

And even If I omit the price limit, there are no mendocino mini PCs at all

 

[Shivansps]

Does anyone know why there're no mendocino mini PCs? 7320U would be a great alternative for N100 or even N305, the die size is just 100mm², and it's on an older 6nm node. But all I see in amazon or aliexpress for under 200 dollars is N100/N95 and Ryzen 3000 (AKA Zen +) options.

And even If I omit the price limit, there are no mendocino mini PCs at all

Asus made some AMD minipcs in the past, not sure if there is any mendocino part.

AMD was never popular on minipcs. AMD always had a huge problem to enter the market Intel has with their small cores for some reason. Not only for minipcs, for laptops too.
The only time they had any presence in that market was with Bobcat and derivatives and ended in a complete dissaster.

 

[jpiniero]

Does anyone know why there're no mendocino mini PCs? 7320U would be a great alternative for N100 or even N305

N6 not cheap enough. N100's RCP is only $55 and OEMs are probably really paying half that. That has to be why the successor will be at Samsung.

I'm not sure if Dumpster Diving is really a good use of AMD resources... but hey.

 

[gdansk]

I'm not sure if Dumpster Diving is really a good use of AMD resources... but hey.

I think it is nearly time they return to the dumpster but this time triumphantly.
The dense core layouts should help make their smaller chips more competitive.

If Samsung is offering much better prices than TSMC then AMD should take advantage of that for Mendocino's successor.

 

[moinmoin]

Does anyone know why there're no mendocino mini PCs?

The only non-laptop systems with Mendocino are all-in-one systems like HP All-in-One CR and Acer Aspire C24-1300. Price not being low enough as indicated could well be the case, especially since there actually are plenty Ryzen based mini PCs.

 

[SteinFG]

N6 not cheap enough.

Ryzen 5 5560U mini PCs are still being made (For $250+), and that uses 180mm N7 silicon. I think with 100mm of N6 it'll be slightly cheaper.
~$200 is going to be pretty competitive.