Zeig Heil! Arnold said to praise Hitler

[geno]

Hitler was a smart man.

Evil, yet a very smart man.

 

[43st]

1. Jewish people were fleeing Germany because of the Holocaust. The Allies knew what was happening prior to the end of the war. I'm sure it wasn't "popular" news, funny that people to this day still try to deny it.

2. I'm not sure what US you live in but anti-Semitism has, in fact, been a issue here also. You're reading revisionist history if you think differently.

 

[Danman]

Originally posted by: geno
Hitler was a smart man.

Evil, yet a very smart man.

He was able to manipulate the Germans when they were weak, and they bought it.

 

[Muck]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Muck
But what's up with Arnold refusing to debate any of the other "candidates", including Davis. Could it be that he has no idea what he's doing?? Or that he has no real platform?? I just think it's BS that he's riding his celebrity on this thing.

why risk a debate when you are winning?

He already had one debate that he won handedly

He did?? I guess I missed that. Who was he debating?? And were the questions given to him before the debate (I heard that was a demand)??

I understand not jeoparizing a lead. Just think that he should earn it.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Thera
1. Jewish people were fleeing Germany because of the Holocaust. The Allies knew what was happening prior to the end of the war. I'm sure it wasn't "popular" news, funny that people to this day still try to deny it.

2. I'm not sure what US you live in but anti-Semitism has, in fact, been a issue here also. You're reading revisionist history if you think differently.

No.

Jewish people in and before 1939 were fleeing Germany because of persecution. The Holocaust had not yet begun.

The mass internment of the Jews, with no longer any pretense for treating them like human beings, did indeed begin with the start of the war on September 1, 1939.

And, what we would call mass murders, as opposed to forced internment and other persecution, did not begin until mid-1941.

 

[FuZoR]

that makes him a nazi??

 

[43st]

Uh, yes. Thanks for adding the dates.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Thera
Uh, yes. Thanks for adding the dates.

You're welcome. The question seemed to be did the US and more importantly, Time Magazine know about the Holocaust in 1939. How could they? It hadn't happened yet.

It didn't start until late that year if you count internment. If you count mass murder, it did not start until mid-1941.

Yes, the allies had clues about the Holocaust. But no idea as to what the scale of it was. FDR didn't tell the American people when he became aware of it in '43, because he was afraid they would think the war was about saving the Jews.

And my post also proves another point. The Jews in an ashtray joke was not, and could not be a WWII joke.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: FuZioN
that makes him a nazi??

The last desperate gasp of the CA Democrat party.

 

[bernse]

Originally posted by: Red DawnWell in Arnolds defense I seriously doubt that back then he even dreamed of running for a political office, especially Governor of CA.

bernse=dumbass for not reading article and assuming it was a recent gaffe before commenting on it.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: cashman

Originally posted by: geno
Hitler was a smart man.

Evil, yet a very smart man.

He was able to manipulate the Germans when they were weak, and they bought it.

So sort of like Hillary and the democratic party?

:evil:

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Muck

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Muck
But what's up with Arnold refusing to debate any of the other "candidates", including Davis. Could it be that he has no idea what he's doing?? Or that he has no real platform?? I just think it's BS that he's riding his celebrity on this thing.

why risk a debate when you are winning?

He already had one debate that he won handedly

He did?? I guess I missed that. Who was he debating?? And were the questions given to him before the debate (I heard that was a demand)??

I understand not jeoparizing a lead. Just think that he should earn it.

link

 

[bernse]

From CNN:

Schwarzenegger told reporters he has raised millions of dollars for the Simon Wiesenthal Center -- a Jewish organization that works to preserve the memory of the Holocaust -- to fight prejudice.

In a CNN interview from August, the center's founder, Rabbi Marvin Hier defended Schwarzenegger, saying he has done more to further the cause of Holocaust awareness than any other movie star

Sounds like they are making a big deal over nothing. If the Director of the Simon Weisenthal Center says Arnie is OK, how can anyone realistically argue against him?

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: bernse
From CNN:

Schwarzenegger told reporters he has raised millions of dollars for the Simon Wiesenthal Center -- a Jewish organization that works to preserve the memory of the Holocaust -- to fight prejudice.

In a CNN interview from August, the center's founder, Rabbi Marvin Hier defended Schwarzenegger, saying he has done more to further the cause of Holocaust awareness than any other movie star

Sounds like they are making a big deal over nothing. If the Director of the Simon Weisenthal Center says Arnie is OK, how can anyone realistically argue against him?

They got tired of calling him a womanizing barbarian so they thought calling him a nazi was a change of pace. The media is a joke and are for the most part nothing more than large scale attention whores.

 

[43st]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Thera
Uh, yes. Thanks for adding the dates.

You're welcome. The question seemed to be did the US and more importantly, Time Magazine know about the Holocaust in 1939. How could they? It hadn't happened yet.

It didn't start until late that year if you count internment. If you count mass murder, it did not start until mid-1941.

Yes, the allies had clues about the Holocaust. But no idea as to what the scale of it was. FDR didn't tell the American people when he became aware of it in '43, because he was afraid they would think the war was about saving the Jews.

And my post also proves another point. The Jews in an ashtray joke was not, and could not be a WWII joke.

Could well be. He was a veteran, so his mind might've not been to with it 10 years ago. My father also was a boy back then, I'll look into it. There's also some old National Geographic magizines with some amazing Pre-1939 images of Hitler and Germany I believe. I think the fact of the matter is the guy was adored here in the late '30s but prior to the war.

 

[isaacmacdonald]

Jesus, people are retarded. Hitler was a talented orator and was skilled at exploiting nationalism. the end. Accepting history doesn't make you an SS officer. Now arnold recants. *sigh* I hate politics.

 

[Nyical]

Originally posted by: Kenazo

Originally posted by: Nyical

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: cashman

Originally posted by: yellowfiero

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
He does have a point.

Hitler would be an interesting political study.

Does that make me a Nazi?

Hitler was horrible, but people today are WAY too eager to associate other people with him.

Horrible or not he was one of the most influential people of the last century.

Viper GTS

Adolph Hitler, Man of the Year
Jan. 2, 1939
Text

Wow. I'm guessing this is before they found out about the concentration camps? I think think that would of changed their perspective on "Man of the Year."

Think about it, 1939...

Viper GTS

Hitler just started his conquest of Europe then, in 1939 was when he invaded Poland.

You should study history some more, I'm thinking.

Jan 2, 1939 was about 8 months before the invasion of Poland (Sept 1, 1939) Austria was already annexed by this point, but that was seemingly a very willing merger.

Na I know my History very well, and yes I agree on the point that Austria and Germany merger was very willing considering Austria was very pro National Socialism more so than Germany and considering Hitler was Austrian
himself I just find it funny that the world didnt see what was comeing after March 11, 1938 when Hitler was going
to visit Austria a little over 250 Synagogues were destroyed, something like 6k to 7k homes and businesses were
destroyed and 80 jews were killed and something like 27k were rounded up.

 

[tnitsuj]

Originally posted by: yellowfiero
The Ayatollah Khomeni was man of the year.

The Ayatollah was nothing like Hitler.

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: cashman

Originally posted by: yellowfiero

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
He does have a point.

Hitler would be an interesting political study.

Does that make me a Nazi?

Hitler was horrible, but people today are WAY too eager to associate other people with him.

Horrible or not he was one of the most influential people of the last century.

Viper GTS

Adolph Hitler, Man of the Year
Jan. 2, 1939
Text

Wow. I'm guessing this is before they found out about the concentration camps? I think think that would of changed their perspective on "Man of the Year."

Think about it, 1939...

Viper GTS

Time magazines man of the year has historically shown someone or something that has shown great impact and not necessarily a good impact.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: cashman

Originally posted by: yellowfiero

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
He does have a point.

Hitler would be an interesting political study.

Does that make me a Nazi?

Hitler was horrible, but people today are WAY too eager to associate other people with him.

Horrible or not he was one of the most influential people of the last century.

Viper GTS

Adolph Hitler, Man of the Year
Jan. 2, 1939
Text

Wow. I'm guessing this is before they found out about the concentration camps? I think think that would of changed their perspective on "Man of the Year."

Think about it, 1939...

Viper GTS

Time magazines man of the year has historically shown someone or something that has shown great impact and not necessarily a good impact.

IIRC, in one of the recent years, Saddam or Osama was named a runner up.

 

[Electric Amish]

I don't see anything wrong with admiring Hitler. He was a great leader and a very smart man. He just got caught up in his meteoric rise to power and went nuts.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I don't see anything wrong with admiring Hitler. He was a great leader and a very smart man. He just got caught up in his meteoric rise to power and went nuts.

He was nuts long before he rose to power.

 

[ThreeLeggedGnome]

I cant stand the republicans but am disgusted by the democrats, a bunch of lying, gutless scums.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I don't see anything wrong with admiring Hitler. He was a great leader and a very smart man. He just got caught up in his meteoric rise to power and went nuts.

He was nuts long before he rose to power.

To clarify, he wrote Mein Kampf in 1923, and it was first published in 1925. Many years before he rose to power.

 

[sillymofo]

If Hitler wasn't a bit whacko... we'd all be speaking Germany by now. Probably the greatest conqueror in history.