Zarqawi Declares War on Shiites!

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: YoshiSato

Originally posted by: Proletariat

Originally posted by: YoshiSato

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: YoshiSato

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: YoshiSato
Good, let them kill each other off, we can do a mop up action and then take the oil once and for all

Mop up? We have 125,000 troops right in the middle of it.

Yeah and if a civil war breaks out our troops should not get involved. Once the civil war is near the end we attact the to be victor who ever it might be.

If our troops don't get involved, Iraq will devolve into an unstable nation. That is the opposite of what our government wants. Believe me, troops will be involved and will be killed.

And for what?

Where are my WMDs?
Where is the oil?

Yes we got saddam, but I want some true Spoils of war.

88 Billion bucks to fix Iraq yet we have some major issues here at home still.

LOL :laugh:

This guys straight-forward.

Well any war should have a direct benifit for the winner. Iraq's resoruces should be long to the United States(Or the Confederation of Mobile/Exxon, Texaco and Shell; depending on your view point) pre WW2 the winners of a conflict kept the land aquired during the war(Same was true with Israel in the 40's and 60s) but todays mentallity of bomb, bomb and bomb some more, rebuild and return the land and resources to the losers is crazy.

The world will get a big wake up call when a true Imperialist comes to power, not these Punks like Saddam or or Milsovich(spelling?). I'm sure when China attacks Taiwan or North Korea attacks the south they will not return any land they win, they will do some olf fassion raping and pillaging of the losers resources.

For the record I did support the war with Iraq, When they "had" WMDs, but this is B.S. now.

Yes, I imagine you'd get a lot of historians to back you up on how the world worked pre-WWII. Although they'd probably be all annoying and point out that that attitude after WWI is widely considered a cheif cause of WWII. But hey, only a few million people died, so no biggie, right?

I swear, the problem with history isn't that no one knows it, it's that they don't understand it.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Finally.

jiiihaaaaaddddddddd!

looks like muslim extremists like mOeeOm are finally happy.

the sunni extremist thugs in Iraq have always targeted American soliders and Iraqi civilians. they have no regard for life whatsoever.

the shiite extremists, however have targeted American soldiers. they dont want to harm Iraqi civilians

there is a difference in ideaology here.

hopefully, Iraqis and other muslims can wake up and realize that Zarqawi is a enemy of Islam.

America is their friend and I want their oil

Indeed...sort of. I will admit that this doesn't seem like a very smart move on Zarqawi's part though. Fighting the great Satan is one thing, declaring war on fellow Muslims is probably not something Muslims as a whole will find too amusing.

I've said that the way to really win the war on terror is to get Muslims on our side, their support is what will finally sink the terrorists. This is why I'm opposed to things like racial profiling. But we don't even have to do anything here. Maybe they won't be on our side, but they certainly won't like the terrorists either if the terrorists keep this up.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: YoshiSato

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: YoshiSato

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: YoshiSato
Good, let them kill each other off, we can do a mop up action and then take the oil once and for all

Mop up? We have 125,000 troops right in the middle of it.

Yeah and if a civil war breaks out our troops should not get involved. Once the civil war is near the end we attact the to be victor who ever it might be.

If our troops don't get involved, Iraq will devolve into an unstable nation. That is the opposite of what our government wants. Believe me, troops will be involved and will be killed.

And for what?

Where are my WMDs?
Where is the oil?

Yes we got saddam, but I want some true Spoils of war.

88 Billion bucks to fix Iraq yet we have some major issues here at home still.

old fashioned imperialism huh?

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Finally.

jiiihaaaaaddddddddd!

looks like muslim extremists like mOeeOm are finally happy.

the sunni extremist thugs in Iraq have always targeted American soliders and Iraqi civilians. they have no regard for life whatsoever.

the shiite extremists, however have targeted American soldiers. they dont want to harm Iraqi civilians

there is a difference in ideaology here.

hopefully, Iraqis and other muslims can wake up and realize that Zarqawi is a enemy of Islam.

America is their friend and I want their oil

that says more than the entire rest of your thread.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Finally.

jiiihaaaaaddddddddd!

looks like muslim extremists like mOeeOm are finally happy.

the sunni extremist thugs in Iraq have always targeted American soliders and Iraqi civilians. they have no regard for life whatsoever.

the shiite extremists, however have targeted American soldiers. they dont want to harm Iraqi civilians

there is a difference in ideaology here.

hopefully, Iraqis and other muslims can wake up and realize that Zarqawi is a enemy of Islam.

America is their friend and I want their oil

that says more than the entire rest of your thread.

i never knew these oil exporting countries didnt want to sell us their oil!

 

[conjur]

A twice-dead, one-legged, lung-damaged man just declared war on the Shiites? Damn, they must be scared sh*tless.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: conjur
A twice-dead, one-legged, lung-damaged man just declared war on the Shiites? Damn, they must be scared sh*tless.

Osama is ill and frail yet he scares many Americans and westerners sh*tless.

There must be a conspiracy here!

 

[YoshiSato]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

old fashioned imperialism huh?

And what is wrong with that? I see nothing wrong with it. After all we need some compensation of freeing the Iraqies of a evil dictator. Their oil should be that compensation. Or we can just give Saddam his power back(Better yet make me Dictator) if oil is worth more to them than freedom.

 

[luigi1]

Something less than roses I judge. Every things comming up thisels? If this goes bad (and I can't see good here). Well a lot of good Americans are gonna be lost for no good reason.

 

[rahvin]

This will likely break the back of the insurgency. The mainstream sunni's don't want civil war and want to participate in the government. Al Sadr actually aligned himself with this group. With the declaration the group may lose the support of the sunni's and end up ending the insurgency. Could be a very good thing. It's a toss up right now if the positive or negative result will happen.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Finally.

jiiihaaaaaddddddddd!

looks like muslim extremists like mOeeOm are finally happy.

the sunni extremist thugs in Iraq have always targeted American soliders and Iraqi civilians. they have no regard for life whatsoever.

the shiite extremists, however have targeted American soldiers. they dont want to harm Iraqi civilians

there is a difference in ideaology here.

hopefully, Iraqis and other muslims can wake up and realize that Zarqawi is a enemy of Islam.

America is their friend and I want their oil

He thinks this will get more Americans killed. It will get a LOT more Iraqis killed in the process though. They will end up dividing the country in two, if not physically then politcally. That's as close to a democracy as I gues it's gpoing to get??

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: YoshiSato
Good, let them kill each other off, we can do a mop up action and then take the oil once and for all

My thoughts exactly.

 

[YoshiSato]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Originally posted by: YoshiSato
Good, let them kill each other off, we can do a mop up action and then take the oil once and for all

My thoughts exactly.

You know if Hitler pulled the same game in WW2 we'd be speaking german, but no he was a moron and attacked russia and then decleared war on the US. He should have got the Americans and the Soviets to kill each other first

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: YoshiSato

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Originally posted by: YoshiSato
Good, let them kill each other off, we can do a mop up action and then take the oil once and for all

My thoughts exactly.

You know if Hitler pulled the same game in WW2 we'd be speaking german, but no he was a moron and attacked russia and then decleared war on the US. He should have got the Americans and the Soviets to kill each other first

Nah. Russia was gearing up for an attack on Germany from day one, the armistice was merely buying each side time to armor up for the battle that was surely ahead (Russia obviously being the slower to arm itself). Germany was destined to lose the second they failed to win the air war over Britain.

Sucks to hear more innocent people will surely be killed. I hope some good can come of this through the quickened disillusionment of Muslims under Zarqawi's sway.

 

[TRUMPHENT]

Originally posted by: rahvin
This will likely break the back of the insurgency. The mainstream sunni's don't want civil war and want to participate in the government. Al Sadr actually aligned himself with this group. With the declaration the group may lose the support of the sunni's and end up ending the insurgency. Could be a very good thing. It's a toss up right now if the positive or negative result will happen.

Marine general Sattler claimed that the third battle of Fallujah had broken the back of the insurgency. It did little more than break the back of city.

Didn't Sunni representatives reject the draft constitution? Yeah, they did.

Abu Musab al Zarqawi couldn't get around Iraq without a perponderance of support from the Sunnis. He's been reported to be in Fallujah, Baghdad, Mosul, and other places. He has a 25 Million Dollar price on his head and there have been no takers.

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: TRUMPHENT
Didn't Sunni representatives reject the draft constitution? Yeah, they did.

Why did they reject it? Because they don't want federalism because it could lead the breakup of Iraq, kinda like civil war would. So if they don't want the breakup they don't want civil war. The mainstream Sunni's that want to participate in the new government will no long provide support to zarqowi.

 

[Analog]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Finally.

jiiihaaaaaddddddddd!

looks like muslim extremists like mOeeOm are finally happy.

the sunni extremist thugs in Iraq have always targeted American soliders and Iraqi civilians. they have no regard for life whatsoever.

the shiite extremists, however have targeted American soldiers. they dont want to harm Iraqi civilians

there is a difference in ideaology here.

hopefully, Iraqis and other muslims can wake up and realize that Zarqawi is a enemy of Islam.

America is their friend and I want their oil

Indeed...sort of. I will admit that this doesn't seem like a very smart move on Zarqawi's part though. Fighting the great Satan is one thing, declaring war on fellow Muslims is probably not something Muslims as a whole will find too amusing.

I've said that the way to really win the war on terror is to get Muslims on our side, their support is what will finally sink the terrorists. This is why I'm opposed to things like racial profiling. But we don't even have to do anything here. Maybe they won't be on our side, but they certainly won't like the terrorists either if the terrorists keep this up.

Sunnis don't consider Sheites moslems....

 

[Whitecloak]

I want the Kurds to get into the act too.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Finally.

Does the Quaran agree with this also?


Why are your people always murdering innocents?

 

[mOeeOm]

Funny all I say is ''Finally'' everyone thinks I mean ''Finally yes it happend'' I coulda also meant ''Finally it happend, we all knew it was coming'' and not really agreeing with it. I like the way ppl judge on this forum, it woulda been nice if someone asked me to elaborate on what I mean when I said ''Finally'' 🙁.

 

[mOeeOm]

Originally posted by: yellowfiero

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Finally.

jiiihaaaaaddddddddd!

looks like muslim extremists like mOeeOm are finally happy.

the sunni extremist thugs in Iraq have always targeted American soliders and Iraqi civilians. they have no regard for life whatsoever.

the shiite extremists, however have targeted American soldiers. they dont want to harm Iraqi civilians

there is a difference in ideaology here.

hopefully, Iraqis and other muslims can wake up and realize that Zarqawi is a enemy of Islam.

America is their friend and I want their oil

Indeed...sort of. I will admit that this doesn't seem like a very smart move on Zarqawi's part though. Fighting the great Satan is one thing, declaring war on fellow Muslims is probably not something Muslims as a whole will find too amusing.

I've said that the way to really win the war on terror is to get Muslims on our side, their support is what will finally sink the terrorists. This is why I'm opposed to things like racial profiling. But we don't even have to do anything here. Maybe they won't be on our side, but they certainly won't like the terrorists either if the terrorists keep this up.

Sunnis don't consider Sheites moslems....

Yes they are, I am Sunni and we all consider them Muslims. I think you are confusing it, because more Shiites help America than Sunnis, we hate them them more, we still consider them Muslims we just hate the Shiites who help America is all.

Its a sin to call shiites non-Muslims.

 

[mOeeOm]

Originally posted by: dahunan

Originally posted by: mOeeOm
Finally.

Does the Quaran agree with this also?


Why are your people always murdering innocents?

Agree with what? That Zarqawi made a war against Shiites? :S What exactly are you wondering about, all I said is Finally.

Muslims don't murder innocents, they aim for American soldiers or people they think are supporting the Americans, so they consider them an enemy too and go for them, civilians get caught in the cross-fire and die, casulties of war. The same thing with the Americans, they aim for freedom fighters, and kill innocent civilians. Casulties of war.

 

[mOeeOm]

But no the Quran does not promote killing of innocent people.

 

[Vic]

It is extremely unlikely that this Zarqawi is a real person. I got a bridge for sell if you believe that propaganda.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Vic
It is extremely unlikely that this Zarqawi is a real person. I got a bridge for sell if you believe that propaganda.

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