I'm looking at a new board. I was wondering if I got a Z690 board if they will update the bios ever to be able to take the new DDR5 memory? I'm actually looking at this board.
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Are all brands created equally in the 5 drive power connector?
So, with the SATA you just do each cable individually?
So, with the SATA you just do each cable individually?
I don't know if they're all equal but, the one I went with has been working great for almost a year now.
Yes, I just run SATA DATA cables like normal to the ports on the MOBO.
I run MDADM for the Raid and SAMBA for the sharing and just make some mount points for the "folders" to be shared. From there you can assign permissions or if it's just you using them add yourself to the smb group.
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I'm currently on AM4 using a Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master and the support has been atrocious. The last non beta bios update was eons ago and they are slow to roll out AGESA updates after Asus has already posted them. My board has suffered from a horrible ftpm stutter that it took them nearly 3 months to give us the AGESA update after AMD released it to their board partners.
AMD on the other had has been super slow to address issues with their firmware and drivers on both the motherboard chipsets and gpu's. Its been like 6 months since they released a whql driver and we've only received beta's since that time.
Gigabyte is also slow to update supporting software that comes through their app center which doesn't work half the time. I'm going back to Asus and even though I currently run a 5950x I'm very close to moving to a Z790 - 13900k combo with DDR5. If I lived near a Micro Center where I could stand in front of the case and eyeball that 13900k at $569.99 it would probably already be a done deal.
Both have issues and wouldn't even be an option for me.
MSI is a 2nd choice for me though from previous experience and ASRock is the top choice as I've now used 3 of them in the past couple of years w/o any serious issues.
ASR's bring tech to the table others don't or skimp on. There's even an ASR that supports NVME Gen5 on the board itself and has been for sale for the past year while the other monkey around with adapters and such.
13900K - $569
13700K - $399
Is the $170 more worth the 10% performance? If you're willing to spend that much AMD might be the better choice.
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MSI is at the bottom of my list for reliable motherboards. Just a few weeks ago I bought a MEG X570s in hopes that I could get away from my Gigabyte and it arrived DOA so they are not an option.
@Puffnstuff then that leaves you with Asus and ASRock for the major players. Not sure on the AMD side but on the Intel side Asus had a reversed polarity capacitor issue that killed new boards.
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You guys are going to go nuts on me I'm sure, but how compatible is a Ryzen 5 5600x with unRAID and Plex? I know I would need to use a GPU, but this is just a question seeing some things on the 5600X.
I know I have been talking Intel and already have the 12600, but I would just like to hear what people know about this CPU and and AMD Board.
I know I have been talking Intel and already have the 12600, but I would just like to hear what people know about this CPU and and AMD Board.
AMD = you pay more for the CPU/board and have to add a GPU unless you get one that has a GPU on it.
Functionality across the apps though should be the same.
Functionality across the apps though should be the same.
The CPU is $159, the i5-12600 which the 5600X rates a little faster than, I got for $241. I have not checked on boards yet though.
But you are right, I would have to add a GPU, which would add cost.
The difference between the CPU would be about $90 which would be added to a GPU. Then what savings I could get with going with an AMD board, if I could find any may add to the savings. Still, I would say, unless I bought a used GPU, I would have to spend a couple hundred more probably.
You always bring up good points, which I already know, you just reaffirm them.
But you are right, I would have to add a GPU, which would add cost.
The difference between the CPU would be about $90 which would be added to a GPU. Then what savings I could get with going with an AMD board, if I could find any may add to the savings. Still, I would say, unless I bought a used GPU, I would have to spend a couple hundred more probably.
You always bring up good points, which I already know, you just reaffirm them.
I will have to go with the B550 board in the AMD line, because I forgot that theX570 has that stinking little fan on it. The best board is the B550 MSI for the price point of $169. So I would save another $25. That's only about the $115 range of savings. Since I would have to buy a GPU, you can add some more bucks, so it would end up costing at least $200 more than the Intel option. Gamers maybe, Plex, not an economical option in my opinion.
It looks like the i5-12600 option is the best for the bucks option for me.
It looks like the i5-12600 option is the best for the bucks option for me.
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Good talk!
Unless you need something specific from AMD like slot bifurcation it's not the best economical option. If you shifted down the ladder though for the $80 AMD CPU for this sort of setup then you could potentially save some $$ but, you're stuck if you want to do anything modern with it later on or resell it,
Now, if you were comparing 13th with 7xxx there's an even bigger price difference. Going with a 7 series though pushes you into mandatory DDR5.
Good talk!
Unless you need something specific from AMD like slot bifurcation it's not the best economical option. If you shifted down the ladder though for the $80 AMD CPU for this sort of setup then you could potentially save some $$ but, you're stuck if you want to do anything modern with it later on or resell it,
Now, if you were comparing 13th with 7xxx there's an even bigger price difference. Going with a 7 series though pushes you into mandatory DDR5.
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Amazon and it was a brand new board. I think I'm going to wait for the 13900ks at which point the bioses should be a bit more mature and the board supply should be better.
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Interesting. I've had several MSI boards. My X58 Pro from 2009 is still running 24/7. Only issue it had is the northbridge chip ran quite hot. A few years ago I finally decided to get a new heatsink with a small fan for it. My son's b550 Tomahawk is doing great as well although it's not even a year old yet.
Funny how we can each have different experiences with different vendors.
So what we're all saying is that there is NO RELIABLE go to company anymore. It's all a crapshoot.
I was comparing some cheap B550 mini-ITX mobos the other day. I saw that Gigabyte didn't include the type C port on their slightly expensive model but ASROCK had type C. I was impressed.
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Very true and it's also even more reason to wait for a motherboard version 1.1 or higher since they will have discovered and addressed some core issues by then. I'm also thinking about waiting for Best Buy to get the Z790 boards in stock since I can buy local and put their geek squad extended warranty on it. They teased me early this morning with a 13900k in stock alert but when I clicked on the link they were all gone.
I know no one probably knows, but I'll ask anyway. Why do you think that the ASRock Z690 Extreme is 185 at Newegg, but $270 at Microcenter, and Amazon only has 3rd part selling it, but for $210 at the cheapest. Just curious if anyone knows. Thanks.
Market demand dictates pricing. Ease of purchase also factors in. Authorized resellers / warranty come into play as well. Amazon isn't a direct seller for ASRock. MC I can't recall if they are or not but, it seems like they picked up stock somewhere and then added costs to it to make a profit.
So, are you saying that boards bought on Newegg are cheaply built compared to the others. I thought all would be the same quality. Or are you talking cheap price?
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