your thoughts on the p4 extreme

[FREEZrBURN]

I have recently amassed a few grand to drop on a PC, and have decided to go for the best. along wiith 2 gigs of ddr500 ram, I have also decided to purchase a p4 extreme. http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=19-116-187&depa=0

I found a good deal on a mobo/cpu combo for about a grand.

I would prefer noit to hear the "its not worth the cash" statement, per-se that may be said.

I would rather hear your thoughts/testimonials of the product.

Thanks

 

[jpetermann]

What are you using the computer for? That is the biggest question. Most will be surprised to hear me say this, but aside from the $$$ issue, I would rather have the FX53 Or the 3800+. I am running a 3500+ atm and I would have to say that I am impressed with the A64 line.... very impressed. If you are gonna spend the $$$, spend it on A64 right now.

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: FREEZrBURN
I have recently amassed a few grand to drop on a PC, and have decided to go for the best. along wiith 2 gigs of ddr500 ram, I have also decided to purchase a p4 extreme. http://www.newegg.com/app/View...=19-116-187&depa=0

I found a good deal on a mobo/cpu combo for about a grand.

I would prefer noit to hear the "its not worth the cash" statement, per-se that may be said.

I would rather hear your thoughts/testimonials of the product.

Thanks

then you shouldn't ask such a question ;p

while it certainly offers some benefits, it just as certainly doesn't offer 2x the performance a P4 560, which is less than half the price....

i rather agree with the AT review:

The Pentium 4 560 manages to offer performance better than that of Intel's fastest Extreme Edition P4, thanks to the additional 200MHz clock increase. The performance enhancement has nothing to do with any architectural changes, as there are none, but everything to do with clock speed. If Intel wants to continue to uphold that their Extreme Edition brand is truly extreme, then a higher frequency core is necessary.

which unfortunately kind of goes back to exactly what you didn't want to hear: it's not worth the cash.

 

[CraigRT]

overpriced, over-rated... useless.

 

[Sonic587]

What's wrong with your current system? Plenty fast for just about everything, IMO.

If I had that cash, I'd wait to drop it on a SLI skt939 system.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: pastorjay
What are you using the computer for? That is the biggest question. Most will be surprised to hear me say this, but aside from the $$$ issue, I would rather have the FX53 Or the 3800+. I am running a 3500+ atm and I would have to say that I am impressed with the A64 line.... very impressed. If you are gonna spend the $$$, spend it on A64 right now.

Ditto. And if you are such an Intel Fanboy that you won't listen to reason, at least listen to CaiNaM, the 560 is a better value than the P4EE.

 

[FREEZrBURN]

Actually, my brother is the one getting it. I just didn't wanna derrive too far from the main question.

He hasn't bought a PC in a few years, and his current system is outdated.
I asked him his standards for a new system after he told me he wanted the p4 extreme and x800xtpe, and he said he wanted top of the line. No question. He has been saving and doesn't care the cost. If one part is even slightly better, he wants it. I just wanted to hear how good you thought the p4 extreme was from people who own it.

 

[Markfw]

If he wants the best, than the FX-53 is it, assuming he wants a gaming system which seems obvious if he wants an X800XTPE. Is that what you wanted to hear ?

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: pastorjay
What are you using the computer for? That is the biggest question. Most will be surprised to hear me say this, but aside from the $$$ issue, I would rather have the FX53 Or the 3800+. I am running a 3500+ atm and I would have to say that I am impressed with the A64 line.... very impressed. If you are gonna spend the $$$, spend it on A64 right now.

Ditto. And if you are such an Intel Fanboy that you won't listen to reason, at least listen to CaiNaM, the 560 is a better value than the P4EE.

hehe.. well, i might just as easily say that the fx is overpriced as well (tho perhaps not to the same degree as the EE), as if you preferred the amd platform, the s939 Athlon 64 3800+ is a better value imo, offering nearly identical performace for several hundred dollars less...

hey, wait a damn minute!

you won't listen to reason, at least listen to CaiNaM sound an awful lot like you're saying i'm not reasonable! :shocked:

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: CaiNaM

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: pastorjay
What are you using the computer for? That is the biggest question. Most will be surprised to hear me say this, but aside from the $$$ issue, I would rather have the FX53 Or the 3800+. I am running a 3500+ atm and I would have to say that I am impressed with the A64 line.... very impressed. If you are gonna spend the $$$, spend it on A64 right now.

Ditto. And if you are such an Intel Fanboy that you won't listen to reason, at least listen to CaiNaM, the 560 is a better value than the P4EE.

hehe.. well, i might just as easily say that the fx is overpriced as well (tho perhaps not to the same degree as the EE), as if you preferred the amd platform, the s939 Athlon 64 3800+ is a better value imo, offering nearly identical performace for several hundred dollars less...

Yes, except its not unlocked, but this is the closest we have come to agreeing......

 

[saechaka]

well there is a p4ee on the for sale forum. P4 3.2ee not too bad for that price i guess. i myself would go amd64 939 route.

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Yes, except its not unlocked, but this is the closest we have come to agreeing......

true, but there are so many options for increasing HTT, even overclocking both i don't think you'd see a significant seperation in performance, tho in any overclocking scenario, YMMV applies.

 

[tfinch2]

more than a 1000 for a cpu...geez...

 

[n7]

So sad what money & advertising does to people

Honestly, look into an FX-53...or wait a bit for the FX-55 (normally i wouldn't recommend them, but you are already looking to waste tons of $$$ on the Extremely Expensive Edtion).

Those would be far better for a gaming rig, & will still be able to run 64-bit software a few years from now

 

[FelixDeCat]

I am an EE user. I love the thing and had a thread with benchmarks in it until 100s of trolls came out to ruin it. They were so damn jealous of it. I will be posting that thread again.

I say go for it. :thumbsup:

 

[laurenlex]

I guess I don't have enough money. How about a $400 processor and spend the extra $600 bucks on something that won't depreciate so fast?

Nice monitor (will last for years)
Really good speakers
Very nice desk and comfy chair (will last for many years)
Eight ball of coke and a couple of hookers. (money gone quick, but oh the memories)

 

[FREEZrBURN]

I know what its like to be constrained to a budget, this is why I have a 3200 xp and not a 64. I built this machine on a $1500 budget.

My brother however, has cash to burn.(and I'm really jealous.) I will show him the information you guys've provided, as usual its very helpful. So thanks a lot!

@Felix: Good to hear directly from a user, Though I highly doubt people are responding in jealousy, it's goodto hear you're enjoying it.

 

[PsharkJF]

I am an EE user. I love the thing and had a thread with benchmarks in it until 100s of trolls came out to ruin it. They were so damn jealous of it. I will be posting that thread again.

If, by trolls, you mean posting that a "Celeron D > Athlon" [note nonspecificity] and when people came to call you on your word, you called them trolls in response. In addition, I posted performance deltas between a Sempron 3100+ and a Cel D 2.8 [available at ~100 each], and you said you didn't need any benchmarks to prove to you that the Cel D was better, which is, in itself, a troll comment.

Posting in dead threads is also a troll move.

edit: On topic, EE's are far too expensive. The new EEs actually have a clock per clock performance difference compared to the standard E. However, the fact that both of them can be beaten out by a significantly cheaper and cooler AMD 64 chip makes purchasing them an unwise decision.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: FREEZrBURN
I know what its like to be constrained to a budget, this is why I have a 3200 xp and not a 64. I built this machine on a $1500 budget.

My brother however, has cash to burn.(and I'm really jealous.) I will show him the information you guys've provided, as usual its very helpful. So thanks a lot!

@Felix: Good to hear directly from a user, Though I highly doubt people are responding in jealousy, it's goodto hear you're enjoying it.

Oh but they are. To bad McDonalds doesnt pay them better. They might be nicer people.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Nobody is jealous of a P4EE. Really, they aren't. Er, well, I'm not, anyway.

A P4 560 would be a better investment if your brother wants to go the Intel route, though it's certainly worth looking at AMD's offerings as well. They really do have excellent processors right now, as well as the fastest x86 cpu on the market(FX53). They soon will trump their own top-of-the-line FX53 with what will be the fastest x86 CPU on the market when they release the FX55. Also, don't buy the hype when people tell you that AMD cpus are only good at games. They're good, if not great, at everything. P4s are currently only winning a few benches right now with any degree of consistancy, and those are usually some synthetics, along with some 3d-rendering and video encoding benchmarks.

If your brother wants to do any serious 3d-rendering or video encoding, tell him to get a dual 3.6 ghz Xeon rig. Or Opterons. Or both! This is assuming that money is no object for him, as you seem to have stated.

If your brother just wants the machine for games or dinking around and what not, the P4 560 would be better than the EE. An FX53 would be even better, but something tells me that your brother might be more comfortable choosing an Intel product, seeing as how he was looking at the EE in the first place.

In summary, the P4EE line is pointless. You're better off with the 560 or Xeons, depending on the machine's intended use.

 

[Blain]

What is your brother going to use his PC for?
The answer to that question dictates CPU recommendations.

 

[Manzelle]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
I am an EE user. I love the thing and had a thread with benchmarks in it until 100s of trolls came out to ruin it. They were so damn jealous of it. I will be posting that thread again.

I say go for it. :thumbsup:

What purpose will that serve? You already know what the outcome of that thread will be a second time...

 

[Corporate Thug]

opteron 148

FX 51 that costs less...

 

[dguy6789]

P4 3.4EE@ 3.9EE, Intel>AMD

You say intel is greater then amd, when a amd athlon 64 fx53 at stock is faster then your 3.9EE in 90% of all benchmarks........

 

[Blain]

Originally posted by: FREEZrBURN
Actually, my brother is the one getting it...
He has been saving and doesn't care the cost. If one part is even slightly better, he wants it...

Your brother needs Dual 250 Opteron's for his new system.