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Bateluer

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A question about dual booting between XP Pro and Vista. My system has 1 160GB, 2x 300GB, and 1 500GB. The two 300s are for storage purposes, and the 160 is partitioned between XP and Apps. The 500GB is empty though. If I were to repartition it into a 50GB and 450GB partitions, would I be able to install Vista on the 50GB partition and be able to dual boot without a problem?
 

Underclocked

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Oct 9, 1999
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Yes. Your boot loader will be taken over by Vista.

VISTA....."How bad can MS screw up Solitaire?" :roll:
 

coolVariable

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Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: ScottSwingleComputers
.... The new explorer is an excercise in frustration. I want to know what brilliant genius decided to get rid of list view in explorer, so I can slap him in the face.

Right now, a few folders have default templates, the rest are all default to details. I really, honestly, do not need to know the date of last modification for every single file - I'd rather have that space for viewing more files. I can use small icons, but its similar as in xp, it goes across rows instead of columns, which is beyond useless. Large icons aren't wide enough to accomodate filenames. Extra large icons are just plain too big. Tiles take up too much space. But I could live without list if I was able to at least conveniently set up folder properties...but something so obvious is just not there. It wasnt there in XP, but it wasnt as big of a deal then - now it is. I wish I could just right click a folder, and have it and all subfolders act a certain way - I can technically, but only if its music, documents or video, and even then, I have to use microsoft's template. If I want to change it, I have to do it for EVERY SINGLE FOLDER across the entire system, or each folder individually....


This is a big concern to me. I cannot understand why they are destroying Windows Explorer. It works SOOOO well!
 

Bateluer

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I think I hit a snag. I burned tne 64bit ISO to a DVD and booted off it. After booting off the DVD, I get a black and white Loading File screen, then it goes to a black and white progress bar, and just moves across the screen. The DVD rom light doesn't flash either. It just sits there.

Is that supposed to happen?
 

Cardio

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Originally posted by: Bateluer
I think I hit a snag. I burned tne 64bit ISO to a DVD and booted off it. After booting off the DVD, I get a black and white Loading File screen, then it goes to a black and white progress bar, and just moves across the screen. The DVD rom light doesn't flash either. It just sits there.

Is that supposed to happen?

Nope, but I had to burn it a couple of times before it would install. If you are loading the thing in Dual boot, any drivers on XP that are not compatable seem to cause problems on Vista. The audio drivers made it run terribly slow until I deleted them and Vista loaded some from somewhere and it's much faster. The original install must have taken 2 hours!

 

Shooks

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I installed the Nvidia graphics drivers but there is still no control panel (is that normal), and does anyone know if SLI is supported and where I can enable it?
 

Nick5324

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Wow, sounds like you guys get Vista to load at least. I get a BSOD at the begining of set up. Windows is loading files..... little white scrolling bar... loads backround image, BSOD.

I've downloaded it twice from MS (32 bit version), same thing happens both times. I used Nero, burned at the slowest speed on some Verbatim DVD media on a NEC3520.

The BSOD is a Machine Check Exception

I have an Opteron 144 that I've had zero problems with it in WinXP. *shrug*
 

Shooks

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Originally posted by: Nick5324
Wow, sounds like you guys get Vista to load at least. I get a BSOD at the begining of set up. Windows is loading files..... little whilte scrolling bar... loads backround image, BSOD.

I've downloaded it twice from MS (32 bit version), same thing happens both times. I used Nero, burned at the slowest speed on some Verbatim DVD media on a NEC3520.

The BSOD is a Machine Check Exception

I have an Opteron 144 that I've had zero problems with in WinXP. *shrug*

The first two times I burned it the same thing happened right after the white bar. I just redownloaded it ( from my MSDN account) and then it worked perfectly. One strange thing is that it would not install to my SATA drive on port 2, it had to be my other SATA drive on port 1.

 

Nick5324

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Originally posted by: Shooks
Originally posted by: Nick5324
Wow, sounds like you guys get Vista to load at least. I get a BSOD at the begining of set up. Windows is loading files..... little whilte scrolling bar... loads backround image, BSOD.

I've downloaded it twice from MS (32 bit version), same thing happens both times. I used Nero, burned at the slowest speed on some Verbatim DVD media on a NEC3520.

The BSOD is a Machine Check Exception

I have an Opteron 144 that I've had zero problems with in WinXP. *shrug*

The first two times I burned it the same thing happened right after the white bar. I just redownloaded it ( from my MSDN account) and then it worked perfectly. One strange thing is that it would not install to my SATA drive on port 2, it had to be my other SATA drive on port 1.

After a google search, issues with SATA drives seem to come up. I don't use any SATA drives though. Hmmm, do I really want to download this thing a third time.....
 

angrynerdrock

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visually, its beautiful. i will definately get it when the problems are fixed.

otherwise, so far i hate it. its incompatible with about half the drivers i throw at it, half the software doesnt work....im going back to xp. maybe RC1 will fare better...but as of right now im not happy. hell nero wont even install
 

Shooks

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Originally posted by: angrynerdrock
visually, its beautiful. i will definately get it when the problems are fixed.

otherwise, so far i hate it. its incompatible with about half the drivers i throw at it, half the software doesnt work....im going back to xp. maybe RC1 will fare better...but as of right now im not happy. hell nero wont even install


really? i was just going to try to install it. damnit!
 

Looney

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It's a beta, very early public beta in fact. But i can tell you there's more driver and software support at this stage in Vista than when XP was RELEASED.
 

stash

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Killing services is a dumb idea, as has been proven here time and time again.

Shutting off the sidebar will free up a pretty big chunk of memory.
 

clickynext

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Why does it take forever to delete anything? And a lot of things seem like they can't be deleted because it asks me for administrator credentials, and I click continue, and it never deletes the file.
 

Shooks

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SLI as in dual video cards. I installed the nvidia drivers and actually found the control panel, but there are no options anywhere to enable SLI.
 

DasFox

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Originally posted by: stash
Killing services is a dumb idea, as has been proven here time and time again.

Shutting off the sidebar will free up a pretty big chunk of memory.

Killing services is not a dumb idea, especially the ones that are taking up resources and are not needed. Whatever gave you this idea that this is dumb?

Someone that has experience and knows what they are doing shutting down quite a few services can gain anywhere from a 5%-10% increase in performance, sometimes even more depending on your needs.

I dropped the startup memory performance in the 512mb range down to around 412mb. I was able to knock out 100mb.

Granted people will say, given the amount of memory one will have in their box, anywhere from 1GB-2GB the idea of killing only 100mb stupid, this has nothing to do with stupid, or dumb, it is called ------> "Improving Performance"

And for advanced users, power users that are concerned with the greatest amounts of performance, it is certainly not dumb at all!

And besides getting a performance gain, the least amount of services running the greater the stability and system performance will be. Less lockups, system crashes, BSOD, etc...

The more one runs on a box the greater chances in decreased stability, this is a given.

The less running the better the box will run.

ALOHA
 

DasFox

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Originally posted by: Underclocked
Some tips for Vista that show you how, among other things, to eliminate the User Account nag: http://www.chris123nt.com/guides/5384/

User account nag?

I created a user during the install, but I thought this is the same as XP, that this initial user account has Admin access.

In the control panel it shows my account as a Admin, so I'd figure just like XP, everytime I'm logged in, I'm logged in as Admin.