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Younger generation mobility at 50 year low

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No, and that's why they eat, drink, drug, fuck, and otherwise kill themselves at young ages. Better to just do it directly before making some greedy asshole a buttload of money off your misery.

Or you can either: do something you enjoy, or put absolutely no focus into collecting a paycheck and instead do what you love on your own and be happy with whatever source of income you find. Which is what life is supposed to be in my opinion.

I have several degrees or partial degrees, and am working on more constantly. None have anything to do with how I make money. All (except maybe the one general transfer AA) make me a better person, and happier for having obtained the knowledge. Of course, most were paid for by grant and scholarship, but I've sunk $20-30k of my own as well. Money well spent. I know people that waste that much on a car.

Soooo...... Who's supposed to work in the coal mines and doing all the manual labor that you seem to think is beneath everyone and only exists to make someone else a lot of money?

Where would we get our steel? Our electricity? The parts that make up your computer? Etc. etc.

This is where bleeding-heart liberalism jumps the shark. You want all the perks but don't want to have to do anything to get them.

People work jobs that may be undesirable because they have to. It's a basic fact of life: you need money to survive. You get money by trading your services to someone who can give you money. It's a simple equation and is a fact of life for everyone.

Or, do you just want to farm steel production out to China? Maybe import some more illegal aliens to work the coal mines?
 
Soooo...... Who's supposed to work in the coal mines and doing all the manual labor that you seem to think is beneath everyone and only exists to make someone else a lot of money?

Where would we get our steel? Our electricity? The parts that make up your computer? Etc. etc.

This is where bleeding-heart liberalism jumps the shark. You want all the perks but don't want to have to do anything to get them.

People work jobs that may be undesirable because they have to. It's a basic fact of life: you need money to survive. You get money by trading your services to someone who can give you money. It's a simple equation and is a fact of life for everyone.

Or, do you just want to farm steel production out to China? Maybe import some more illegal aliens to work the coal mines?

I never said any of that, and you have me pegged almost the exact opposite of how I am.

Coal mining: yeah, I don't want to do that one personally. I'm mildly claustrophobic, and am opposed to coal in general to say nothing of the HEINOUS safety abuses that nearly all coal mining companies are guilty of. In my opinion NO ONE should mine coal, and the entire industry should go away tomorrow. Period.

Now other than that, I'd PREFER a manufacturing or mundane labor job. I would HAPPILY shovel animal shit for a living. Garbage man, environmental cleanup, construction...you name it, I'm down. I have great respect for those jobs. I have next to none for most service industry and retail/consumerism driven jobs that most aspire to, nor those abusive and exploitative jobs that harm others for selfish benefit.

You also ignore the second option I offered, which is the one I myself use. I do jobs I don't enjoy much (though I won't do jobs I 'hate') in order to get a paycheck so I can do all the things that I actually like and want to do. I simply don't invest myself in the work or spend one iota more than is required of my time/focus/energy on it, and am adamant about setting limits - usually pertaining to safety, sanity, or morality. So long as I can find a way to survive my shift without killing someone, I'm happy to do it for the paycheck as long as its fair and whatever I'm doing isn't having a disastrous impact on things I care about.

Tying this all back in to the comment which started this particular discussion chain: with all that being said there are things I don't believe in and won't do, same as millions of other people. There are things that would ruin our lives if we did them. It doesn't matter if they're in demand jobs that pay well, getting a degree or training in them is a BAD IDEA because the end result will be us not having a life we can accept. Under those circumstances it's better to just die now quickly and get it over with.

Life is about the individuals, not jobs and not the job market. As humans we can find ways to stay alive doing things we can accept. We are under no requirement to sacrifice ourselves to others happiness, or live under randomly imposed subjective tenets we may find incompatible. Accepting this will bring you much peace, and even enjoyment from life. Refuting it is a guaranteed path to misery and wasted precious life.
 
You talk about anecdotes, we are talking about an entire generation, or more, of people who will be nothing more than basement dwellers until their 30s. The psychological impact alone will be enormous. Especially after they have been told their whole lives that they are special.

While I agree with some of what you say, a LOT of it is subjective perception. Not only is there nothing wrong with 'living at home' til mid years, I would say there's nothing wrong with it forever. In fact, I would argue that there is GREAT BENEFIT to attachment to home and family and a big part of our problem as a culture and society is that we think we should sever those ties and 'go it on our own'...at least for any length of time.

In this I think groups like the Amish are VASTLY superior to the rest of us...both logically and morally.
 
Education is a means to an end.
Too many head off to University with 'finding themselves' as the priority when really what they should do is head off to a job any job, instead of saddling themselves with debt and mediocre marks.
 
i blame part of it is constant telling of kids "do what you love"

sorry. i would love to get paid to jerk off and play video games. that is not going to happen.

so many go to school for stupid shit.

I can see it now:

waggy, PhD in Masturbatory Video Game Studies
 
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