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Originally posted by: skywalker66
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
BTW, you don't have a woman now and won't have one in the foreseeable future. Why not just attempt to 'pick up chix'. You have absolutely 0 to lose and eventually you'll figure out how it works. It's a win/win. The first few girls get a few laughs thanks to you but in the end you'll be fvckin or dead!

I've been told that this strategy works, for getting short term relationships, but in the long run it wont make me happy. plus I still dont know what my views are about premarital sex. I should probably just try not to do it, since I will most likely end up a virgin til marriage anyways, whether I was trying or not.

Well, the fact is that the odds of you marrying the first person you date are pretty much non-existant. You'll have several 'short-term' relationships before getting married... on average.
 
Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
there is a girl for every guy. she may be fat and ugly, but beggars cant be choosers. get rid of your illusions of love and girlfriends; just focus on the simple things. if you really want a girl, lower your standards, if you dont want one bad enough to do that, then just be patient.

I've been told that I shouldnt "want a girl"

That wanting a girl in general, and not having any specific one in mind, is a bad thing, and that I am just turning women into objects by doing that, and making myself look desperate
 
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: skywalker66
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
BTW, you don't have a woman now and won't have one in the foreseeable future. Why not just attempt to 'pick up chix'. You have absolutely 0 to lose and eventually you'll figure out how it works. It's a win/win. The first few girls get a few laughs thanks to you but in the end you'll be fvckin or dead!

I've been told that this strategy works, for getting short term relationships, but in the long run it wont make me happy. plus I still dont know what my views are about premarital sex. I should probably just try not to do it, since I will most likely end up a virgin til marriage anyways, whether I was trying or not.

Well, the fact is that the odds of you marrying the first person you date are pretty much non-existant. You'll have several 'short-term' relationships before getting married... on average.

I guess what I'm saying is that I've been told that the "pick up chix" strategy is stupid. and that I shouldnt do it. That I should just wait for a real girlfriend to come around.

BTW folks, incase you are wondering why I dont follow the advice on here, the reason why, is because it all clashes against each other.

Ex, here is what I've heard so far this thread:

"you saw the light!"

"pick up chix"

"In the meantime, workout, wear nice clothes, feign self-confidence if you don't have it, and feign that you don't care as much. These will all help you get over the stumbling around. "

"lower the standards"

all of this advice is contrary to each other. You people need to stick to giving me one consistent message. Heck all the forums of the world should stick to giving me one consistent message. Its amazing how much views vary accross different forums.
 
Originally posted by: skywalker66
Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
there is a girl for every guy. she may be fat and ugly, but beggars cant be choosers. get rid of your illusions of love and girlfriends; just focus on the simple things. if you really want a girl, lower your standards, if you dont want one bad enough to do that, then just be patient.

I've been told that I shouldnt "want a girl"

That wanting a girl in general, and not having any specific one in mind, is a bad thing, and that I am just turning women into objects by doing that, and making myself look desperate

i've heard, i've been told, blah blah blah.

you sound like an MCSE guy that has never actually done any work in the field before. all grand ideas and theories and no idea how it all works in real life.

stop talking about it (or in this case typing about it) and get some trial and error going. not every meeting with a person has to lead to a sexual encounter, not every sexual encounter has to lead to a relationship, not ever relationship ends up long term and not ever long term relationship ends in marriage.

that's just the facts of life. you can't plan it all ahead of time. it's not like building a bridge, this is relationships, it's much more an art than a science.
 
Originally posted by: skywalker66
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: skywalker66
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
BTW, you don't have a woman now and won't have one in the foreseeable future. Why not just attempt to 'pick up chix'. You have absolutely 0 to lose and eventually you'll figure out how it works. It's a win/win. The first few girls get a few laughs thanks to you but in the end you'll be fvckin or dead!

I've been told that this strategy works, for getting short term relationships, but in the long run it wont make me happy. plus I still dont know what my views are about premarital sex. I should probably just try not to do it, since I will most likely end up a virgin til marriage anyways, whether I was trying or not.

Well, the fact is that the odds of you marrying the first person you date are pretty much non-existant. You'll have several 'short-term' relationships before getting married... on average.

I guess what I'm saying is that I've been told that the "pick up chix" strategy is stupid. and that I shouldnt do it. That I should just wait for a real girlfriend to come around.

BTW folks, incase you are wondering why I dont follow the advice on here, the reason why, is because it all clashes against each other.

Ex, here is what I've heard so far this thread:

"you saw the light!"

"pick up chix"

"In the meantime, workout, wear nice clothes, feign self-confidence if you don't have it, and feign that you don't care as much. These will all help you get over the stumbling around. "

"lower the standards"

all of this advice is contrary to each other. You people need to stick to giving me one consistent message. Heck all the forums of the world should stick to giving me one consistent message. Its amazing how much views vary accross different forums.

'You saw the light' is a joke. If you can't see that then that is one problem you already have. Lighten up.

'Pick up chix'. You're taking it out of context. If you really need it spelled out for you just ask.

'Lower your standards'. Not every girl is 'Insert Name of Famous Hooker here'. Be sure to remember that girls in the real world are not the same ones you see in the movies.

'In the meantime, workout, wear nice..' Good advice for building self confidence. If you start working out you will feel better about yourself. You will think you're much larger than you were previously, even if you're not. Nice clothes attract notice.

Do you need more specifics?
 
It's ok there's still hope for you yet

But seriously don't try to hard. I think you were given such a hard time here before because 1. You never seemed to listen to anyones advice B. Every post you made was about a girl you brushed up against that day III. Every post you made was about a girl you brushed up against that day
 
We've heard this kind of thing from his alterego, gjeste, in this thread. This won't be the last time we see one of his obnoxious, self righteous, whiny little threads about his ineptitude with women.
 
Originally posted by: Honkus
We've heard this kind of thing from his alterego, gjeste, in this thread. This won't be the last time we see one of his obnoxious, self righteous, whiny little threads about his ineptitude with women.

woah.... de ja vu...
 
Be confident, but not arrogent. Most importantly, be yourself -- if you know who that person is. Go out to parties, join clubs, and get involved with things that girls in your age group go to. Maybe you'll meet someone, maybe you won't.
 
there is more to lowering standards than just hooking up with ugly people. it may just mean being more receptive to types of people (size/shape/color etc.) than you normally would be. you seem to have very distorted and murky views about everything remotely associated women and relationships (ie. premarital sex, picking up girls, and pretty much everything else that has been mentioned in this thread).

are you searching for a lover? or searching for someone to love you? you really need to get your head on straight before you can even take any of this advice.
 
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