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Torn Mind

Lifer
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there's a vaccine for it, it was recalled voluntarily due to repeated attacks by the antivax community, your dog can get the vaccine though

The writer framed the victims' narratives in an extremely dismissive manner despite having the links. ABC is culturally not much different then than now as a MSM outlet and them picking up the news for vaccine problems is not dismissed so easily.


 

ch33zw1z

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All good information in those posts. But, I thought Lyme was caused by a bacteria? My layman's understanding is that we vaccinate against virus's....can we also vaccinate against bacteria? I could probably just google this :D
 

purbeast0

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Proof that stupid people are a direct threat to society.

I wonder if my friend that has been dealing with Lyme Disease for almost 2 years is aware of this.

There is a rabies vaccine for humans, but mostly limited to high risk people, vets, wildlife rangers, etc.
Vaccines are for preventing getting the disease, not curing it after you have it.
 

Scarpozzi

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I can't remember ever having trouble breathing. Even when I have upper respiratory illness. Pain, sure. Fatigue? Every day, at least some of the day. Some rest, some sleep, my energy returns.

The experiences I've heard about with long covid are not psychosomatic. They are quite scary, actually. The "brain fog" they talk about (you hear this again and again) is kind of difficult to put one's finger on, but the autopsies they have been performing have revealed brain tissue deterioration, which is quite scary. Hair falling out in clumps isn't "whiny." Hearing loss (verifiable in tests), isn't whiny. Blood clots leading to limb amputation, not whiny. Hypertension, ditto. The list goes on... this virus causes more varied pathology on the human body than any other known pathogen in history.
I know it's a real thing....but when you do broad surveys, the surveys ask about a list of symptoms for validation. They are the ones that list "brain fog" and people readily agree.... "YES!!! THAT'S ME!" In many cases, all they have to do is put a check in the box without followup. (for the sake of the survey)

I know a lot of self-diagnosed people who had covid last year, but never tested. (so who knows) Once again... I'm not saying long covid doesn't exist. I'm not suggesting that a percentage of those people didn't actually have it. I'm just saying that psychosomatic stuff does exist and it skews the data for those types of surveys.

Now that I've made that claim, I'm going to say....long covid and thoughts of brain deterioration scares me. I'm often curious if it's those kinds of things or specific use of food additives and chemicals that promote Alzeimer's disease and other dementia related disease. RSV is on the rise, for instance, and just about any virus can cause indeterminate damage that goes undetected for a number of years. Viruses are not as well understood as well as we wish they were, considering how common they are.

I worried about death, as many people did with Covid, but long-term illness was more of a concern when those reports emerged. I don't want to just live....I want to actually enjoy the years I have left.
 
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Synomenon

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I contracted COVID back at the end of January. Since then I've still been experiencing brain fog, memory issues and most nights when trying to sleep it feels like my heart is racing and / or I'm having palpitations (I'm in my mid 30s and have been in fairly decent health). My primary care doctor also just suddenly retired so I have no doctor right now. I have to wait until October to meet his replacement.

I haven't gone to the ER for the heart issue(s) because my insurance isn't that great and last time I went to the ER had a $3000 bill.
 
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Meghan54

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All good information in those posts. But, I thought Lyme was caused by a bacteria? My layman's understanding is that we vaccinate against virus's....can we also vaccinate against bacteria? I could probably just google this :D

Here's some info....


Lyme disease is the most common vector-borne disease in the United States. Lyme disease is caused by the bacterium Borrelia burgdorferi and rarely, Borrelia mayonii. It is transmitted to humans through the bite of infected blacklegged ticks.

 
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Red Squirrel

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Now that we have ticks here I try to check too, though it's hard to really check everything especially parts I can't see. Hair and beard are tough too. I just rub/pat it outside hoping if there's any they'll fall out but from my understanding they are quite resilient since they just dig themselves in your skin and stay latched. In general I just try to stay out of deep bush now and avoid having my head touch tree branches. If I ever end up buying bush property all bush related work will be done in winter and I'll also have the advantage of more clothing on me since the weather will permit it. Way too hot in summer to be covered head to toe. Though I hear that's not 100% safe either as you could accidentally track a dormant one inside on your clothes. Pray it's not pregnant with eggs ready to be laid. I guess those ones would be bigger though so you could spot them more easily right?
 

Torn Mind

Lifer
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I contracted COVID back at the end of January. Since then I've still been experiencing brain fog, memory issues and most nights when trying to sleep it feels like my heart is racing and / or I'm having palpitations (I'm in my mid 30s and have been in fairly decent health). My primary care doctor also just suddenly retired so I have no doctor right now. I have to wait until October to meet his replacement.

I haven't gone to the ER for the heart issue(s) because my insurance isn't that great and last time I went to the ER had a $3000 bill.
I would not be surprised if the "heart" area turns out normal in tests anyway. My mother had an odd episode on Dec 20, 2019 but has never had anything before or since.

When I was recovering, the pulse oximeter kept logging readings in the 70s-80s for bpm for me but I felt the "heart agitation" too. That is medically ok but not normal for me as I am normally at 60 bpm. Never had problems sleeping though. In fact, it made me want to sleep more.

Brain fog was definitely there. Most tasks became a true chore. Physical or mental. Picking up or cleaning things. Measuring and cutting. Or writing and brainstorming. All dragged down to an irritable crawl. I could listen to music no problem though..
 
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VirtualLarry

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Brain fog was definitely there. Most tasks became a true chore. Physical or mental. Picking up or cleaning things. Measuring and cutting. Or writing and brainstorming. All dragged down to an irritable crawl. I could listen to music no problem though..
That sounds like the way that I've been feeling the last year and a half. I got Covid (pretty sure) last Feb., just before the CDC Warnings or right around there in Mar.
 
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Dr. Detroit

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I see the SSI Disability roles growing...

"Chronic Fatigue & Brain Fog" Best start the paper trail now with your GP.
 

Torn Mind

Lifer
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I see the SSI Disability roles growing...

"Chronic Fatigue & Brain Fog" Best start the paper trail now with your GP.
Doubt it. Diabetes alone does not qualify, for example.

The inhibitory effect of COVID is such that an insurance company, which includes government, is set up perfectly to deny such claims with a few questions. The most they'll do is give you some painkillers and call it a day.
 
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blackangst1

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Im a COVID long hauler. I ended up getting Perosmia which is a distortion of taste and/or smell. For me its both. Food that I used to LOVE makes me want to vomit now. Some food tastes like chemicals. Its a struggle to get enough calories in a day (most days I dont). The good thing is fresh fruits are all OK so eat alot of those. Its just aggravating, and not healthy.
 

Muse

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Im a COVID long hauler. I ended up getting Perosmia which is a distortion of taste and/or smell. For me its both. Food that I used to LOVE makes me want to vomit now. Some food tastes like chemicals. Its a struggle to get enough calories in a day (most days I dont). The good thing is fresh fruits are all OK so eat alot of those. Its just aggravating, and not healthy.
I hope you get better.
 

MrSquished

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Im a COVID long hauler. I ended up getting Perosmia which is a distortion of taste and/or smell. For me its both. Food that I used to LOVE makes me want to vomit now. Some food tastes like chemicals. Its a struggle to get enough calories in a day (most days I dont). The good thing is fresh fruits are all OK so eat alot of those. Its just aggravating, and not healthy.
That's tough. Losing the joy of eating is a big deal.
 

nakedfrog

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Oh wow I always assumed that vaccine actually DID have issues and that they could not iron them out or something so it basically died. That's too bad then as we could actually have a working one if it was not for the antivax people.
That's why I take issue with you when you're freely spreading misinformation with no regard to veracity. You just assumed that the vaccine really did have issues because you heard it somewhere, and you just gulp it right up and spew it out to others. You are, in fact, part of the problem.
 

PingSpike

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I know a guy mid 50's who had it bad, managed to stay out of the hospital but was really sick. He had chest pain and breathing issues, and his doc thought for sure he had thrown some clots into his lungs. Went to get scanned and nothing. No clots, nothing that shows up on any scans.
Now he has chronic daily pain similar to cramps of his chest muscles and pain in his lungs. There is no treatment but the usual high powered OTC pain meds that beat on your kidneys and liver.
His is the definition of long haul IMO. Please if you are on the fence take this to heart. He is regretting his decision daily.

Tell him to try lidocaine patches. They sound like they won't do anything on internal pains like that but my mother said patches on her back really helped her with her pancreatic cancer pain. I suffer chronic daily pain as a result of a supposedly safe medical procedure and have found the roll on form to be quite helpful, although depending upon the type of pain I have that day it isn't always as effective. I only tried it because my mother told me about her patches, doctors never recommended anything like that.
 
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solidsnake1298

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Im a COVID long hauler. I ended up getting Perosmia which is a distortion of taste and/or smell. For me its both. Food that I used to LOVE makes me want to vomit now. Some food tastes like chemicals. Its a struggle to get enough calories in a day (most days I dont). The good thing is fresh fruits are all OK so eat alot of those. Its just aggravating, and not healthy.

I'm not sure which is worse: Losing the ability to taste/smell or being tired all the time. My brother and his wife got COVID in January. They both still get easily fatigued. Both have gained weight since they haven't been able to exercise. Jogging for 20-30 seconds gets their heart racing to the point where they feel like they are going to pass out.

They got vaccinated in early April (J&J vaccine before the pause) and there has been no change.