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HappyPuppy

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I would file criminal charges against him with the district attorney, then I would go home, walk into the bathroom, look into the mirror and call myself STUPID for 3 days nonstop. When you are running a business, you never trust anyone, especially family.
 

rahvin

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Regardless of the Jurisdiction not reporting income is generally a major Tax Crime in any nation on the earth. If you like the settlement, settle then press charges and report him to your local taxing authorities.
 

urameatball

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just minor clarification.
proven over $100000 stolen, suspected of much more. so it's not not just a nice pair of shoes.
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: urameatball
a VERY long story short.

so you own a successful family business which has been running for about 10 years. Your brother is the sales manager and you find out recently that he's been pocketing a handsome sum of money from many different sources, and using the business for his personal gains. So far, you've proven his guilt to just over $100000 in fraudulent activities, and he's suspected of much more. You try to fire him which makes him angry and on new years day when nobody is working, he breaks into the office and steals all the important company documents needed to run the business. Because he's the sales agent, he tells all the suppliers and customers that the company is going bankrupt and all your connections are scared and pull away their investments in your company.

WHAT DO YOU DO?

Hire someone to kick his ass. Call the police, get him arrested, then pay someone in jail to kick his ass again.
 

SuperSix

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Originally posted by: blakeatwork
First, I punch him right in the mouth....

Second, I get a lawyer on retainer... Brother or no, he's scum, and should be prosecuted immediately....

Third, contact all known vendors and suppliers and customers, and inform them that business is indeed still on..

What a jackass!

 

jjones

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If one of my brothers tried to hurt my family like that, I would show him the the world is indeed a cruel place. Nobody, not even a brother, fvcks with my family. I'll tell you one thing: you may think that you can resolve this situation peaceably, and maybe you will for a few months or a year, but he'll be back to cause you more grief once again and what will you do then? Pay him more money? I'm not suggesting a dirt-nap for him but there are creative ways to get your point across painfully.
 

jackpot

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well...I could forgive my brother for stealing money. I think you approached your brother the wrong way when you fired him because look what happened. He breaks in the office and steals $hit. If you treated him like a messed up family member and not a criminal (not saying he isn't) you might have gotten him out of there peacefully. He may be messed up, but I'd wager that what he did after you fired him was from how you confronted him. Not saying that's what really happened, but consider it.
 

THELAIR

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Contact the RCMP commercial crimes divison in your local city/area that you are in. They will take it from there from teh criminal stand point.

You can also contact CCRA (Canada Customs and Revenue Agency) which can be a pain in his as as much as the american IRS can be.

From the civil stand point, get a lawyer.
 

Hammer

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giving the $18k back is a start, but somewhere in the settlement should be something about him ceding his share of the business. If he stays as a partner, he's gonna do it again. once he's out, change all the locks, etc. Your brother is in a bind, you should give him some sort of plan to payback the rest of the money. If not, remind him what he did is illegal and you can and will go to the authorties and that its only cause he's your brother that you're giving him this chance.
 

blakeatwork

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Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
dude $100,000 canadian? what's that, like shoes and a meal here or something?

Wow, a serious thread and you post crap like that??? go back to your rock..
 

urameatball

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Originally posted by: jackpot
well...I could forgive my brother for stealing money. I think you approached your brother the wrong way when you fired him because look what happened. He breaks in the office and steals $hit. If you treated him like a messed up family member and not a criminal (not saying he isn't) you might have gotten him out of there peacefully. He may be messed up, but I'd wager that what he did after you fired him was from how you confronted him. Not saying that's what really happened, but consider it.
are you saying there's a painless way of firing a family member? a way that could keep the person being fired from turning into a glowing fireball of molten magma waiting to explode?
even from 2 years ago, it's been suspected that he's been 'benefiting' from the company. We just let it go because he was starting a family back then and we considered it like an unspoken gift. But now he's pushed it way too far and we had no choice but to fire him.


giving the $18k back is a start, but somewhere in the settlement should be something about him ceding his share of the business. If he stays as a partner, he's gonna do it again. once he's out, change all the locks, etc. Your brother is in a bind, you should give him some sort of plan to payback the rest of the money. If not, remind him what he did is illegal and you can and will go to the authorties and that its only cause he's your brother that you're giving him this chance.
yah. all that legal mumbo jumbo is going to be taken care of on Monday (hopefully)... all previous attempts asking him to sign has failed. So I just hope this time he would agree to sign (the terms are VERY favorable for him).