You don't need to get tagged with the a speed gun to be given a speeding ticket right?

boyRacer

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I don't remember but i think i read it somewhere that they have to pace you or something... but a speed reading isn't necessary correct?... obviously when you're blazing by at 100 then they obviously know you're speeding... reason being, my friend's boyfriend just got his 3rd or 4th ticket in a year... and as much as i want to say he deserves it... he' still a friend... :) ...anyway he's always caught out in the middle of the night when there's no one around him... and my friend wants to buy him a radar detector for christmas... i don't think that's going to help him... and i don't know if his license will be suspended already... but for those being caught boy cops on bikes... they don't pull out their gun and tag you right?... :confused:
 

optoman

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I radar detector might save his ass but it is useless against laser. By the time the laser detector goes off the cop is already starting to chase after you. If he wants to speed, let him speed.
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: optoman
I radar detector might save his ass but it is useless against laser. By the time the laser detector goes off the cop is already starting to chase after you. If he wants to speed, let him speed.

i have a better idea than a radar detector...maybe your friend should start driving the speed limit, and stop abusing the privilege granted to him to drive....if he gets his license suspended, he deserves it, and i dont see any good reason for him to be able to speed whenever he wants to in the future, the limits are there for a reason...at least, thats what i heard
 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: optoman
I radar detector might save his ass but it is useless against laser. By the time the laser detector goes off the cop is already starting to chase after you. If he wants to speed, let him speed.

LOL... true... not my problem... but even if his license is suspended i'm sure he'll keep driving just to see my friend. Problem is he lives in Fontana and she lives in Los Angeles... which is like a 45 minute drive... considering how he comes down here almost everyday... the chances of him getting another ticket is almost guaranteed.
 

Tominator

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Cops have all kinds of ways to tell your speed. There is no defense against VASCAR. Tell the idiot to slow down! Although with 4 tickets in a year me thinks the state will slow him waaay down!

 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: optoman
I radar detector might save his ass but it is useless against laser. By the time the laser detector goes off the cop is already starting to chase after you. If he wants to speed, let him speed.

i have a better idea than a radar detector...maybe your friend should start driving the speed limit, and stop abusing the privilege granted to him to drive....if he gets his license suspended, he deserves it, and i dont see any good reason for him to be able to speed whenever he wants to in the future, the limits are there for a reason...at least, thats what i heard

Heh... good luck telling him that... let's just say he's one of those "rice boys"... :D ...i know nothing about radar detectors... but she's thinking of buying him an Escort 8500from Best Buy... a lot of money... :confused:
 

LOL... true... not my problem... but even if his license is suspended i'm sure he'll keep driving just to see my friend. Problem is he lives in Fontana and she lives in Los Angeles... which is like a 45 minute drive... considering how he comes down here almost everyday... the chances of him getting another ticket is almost guaranteed.

Let him continue acting like the ass he is, eventaully his license will get suspended, he will continue to drive and then he will get arrested and thrown in jail for driving under suspension.
Then and only then will he learn his lesson.


Heh... good luck telling him that... let's just say he's one of those "rice boys"...

He's going to be crying like a little baby the day he kills some poor pedestrian.
 

boyRacer

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Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
how much has his insurance been hiked?

Oh speaking of insurance... he's being an ass about it... he doesn't even know how many points he has on his driving record... and he doesn't seem to bother to keep track of things... i think he only has liability so i doubt that deters him from speeding at all. Thinking about all these things makes me realize that man is he an idiot or what... hahaha... but i can't really tell my friend off about him... after all... he is her boyfriend. :(
 

Well from your description, he appears to be an immature, irresponsable ass wipe, he deserves what he gets, let him continue on his path to destruction, one day he will wake up.
 

GoodRevrnd

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Uh... 4 tickets in one year? Sheeeeit! I'm pretty sure his license will be suspended. You have 3 strikes in CA, in DMV I don't remember if that means you're allowed 3 and the fourth is a suspension or you're nailed on the 3rd. This is all assuming he erased the first w/ traffic school.
 

Woody06

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I think they either have to pace you or get a speed reading (at least in Oregon). I was being stupid one night and did 45 in a 25, there was no one around so I wasnt endangering anyone, but I got pulled over and the cop said that he couldn't ticket me but gave me a waring. His exact words were, "You better slow down in this red car or you're gonna be seeing a lot of yellow."

But yeah, if he's gotten that many tickets he's obviously going way too fast. I often speed when its not wreckless to do so, and after two years of driving have yet to be ticketed. (Knock on wood).
 

Kevin

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I think cops could be lenient on *some* speeding cases. I can see doing 80 in a 30 as being hazardous but cops are just waving their d-cks infront of you. A good friend of mine recently got a speeding ticket for doing 55 in a 50. Thats nitpicking...
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: kevin000
I think cops could be lenient on *some* speeding cases. I can see doing 80 in a 30 as being hazardous but cops are just waving their d-cks infront of you. A good friend of mine recently got a speeding ticket for doing 55 in a 50. Thats nitpicking...

Is it? I disagree. You have to draw the line somewhere. If the speed limit is 50 and you are going 55, and the cop lets you off because it's not so much over, what does he say to the guy who is going 56? It's only 1 more than the last guy, and he let that guy off. That's the whole point of making the limit in the first place.

Now in some states, the limits are not absolute and if you could convince a judge that you were still driving safely when you were going 55 in 50 on a bright, clear, dry spring day on a back road with no traffic, you could get off.
In other states, it doesn't matter.
 

NutBucket

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What an idiot. I admit I drive fast between the west side and Pomona but I'm hardly every zooming through traffic (like he would have to do). If he gets 4 tickets in one year he deserves to have his ass thrown into jail for 30 days and/or his license suspended.

I say you make a move on the friend and not worry about this @ss:D
 

Kevin

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: kevin000
I think cops could be lenient on *some* speeding cases. I can see doing 80 in a 30 as being hazardous but cops are just waving their d-cks infront of you. A good friend of mine recently got a speeding ticket for doing 55 in a 50. Thats nitpicking...

Is it? I disagree. You have to draw the line somewhere. If the speed limit is 50 and you are going 55, and the cop lets you off because it's not so much over, what does he say to the guy who is going 56? It's only 1 more than the last guy, and he let that guy off. That's the whole point of making the limit in the first place.

Now in some states, the limits are not absolute and if you could convince a judge that you were still driving safely when you were going 55 in 50 on a bright, clear, dry spring day on a back road with no traffic, you could get off.
In other states, it doesn't matter.

But its still so close to the limit. Sometimes I'll be on the highway and I'll hit a decline which increases my speed. Usually I realize in time and either lift my foot off the gas or tap the break. I think a 10mph buffer would be very generous. On highways, its almost impossible to drive the limit. Ask anyone whose driven on the NJ Turnpike or Garden State Parkway...
 

Jzero

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But its still so close to the limit. Sometimes I'll be on the highway and I'll hit a decline which increases my speed. Usually I realize in time and either lift my foot off the gas or tap the break. I think a 10mph buffer would be very generous. On highways, its almost impossible to drive the limit. Ask anyone whose driven on the NJ Turnpike or Garden State Parkway...
Or the Schuykill. Nonetheless, if you're going to give a 10MPH buffer, then why not just raise the speed limit by 10MPH?
It is possible to drive the speed limit on the GSP, but you had best get your lagging ass in the right lane, and if you see someone behind you flashing their high-beams, just make a mental note of whether or not they have a front license plate. Some people in certain states adjoining the great Garden State don't seem to realize that you're supposed to pass in the LEFT lane.

The cop is given some license over whether he tickets you for something nitpicky like that. I can't speak for state troopers, but I know a number of township cops and a lot of them say they'll only give you a warning or a ticket for seatbelt or some such if you're going only 5 MPH over.
However, the limit is a limit, so even if you were 1 MPH over, then there's really no valid excuse....
 

cavdraco

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well when my spedo reads 55 im actually doing about 70 so there are reasons thats why most cops wont bother you about 5 mph over
I used to get a LOT of speeding tickets but 3 rollovers will cure you of that fast

Cav
 

Kevin

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Originally posted by: Jzero
But its still so close to the limit. Sometimes I'll be on the highway and I'll hit a decline which increases my speed. Usually I realize in time and either lift my foot off the gas or tap the break. I think a 10mph buffer would be very generous. On highways, its almost impossible to drive the limit. Ask anyone whose driven on the NJ Turnpike or Garden State Parkway...
Or the Schuykill. Nonetheless, if you're going to give a 10MPH buffer, then why not just raise the speed limit by 10MPH?
It is possible to drive the speed limit on the GSP, but you had best get your lagging ass in the right lane, and if you see someone behind you flashing their high-beams, just make a mental note of whether or not they have a front license plate. Some people in certain states adjoining the great Garden State don't seem to realize that you're supposed to pass in the LEFT lane.

The cop is given some license over whether he tickets you for something nitpicky like that. I can't speak for state troopers, but I know a number of township cops and a lot of them say they'll only give you a warning or a ticket for seatbelt or some such if you're going only 5 MPH over.
However, the limit is a limit, so even if you were 1 MPH over, then there's really no valid excuse....

Well thats why the limit should stay and their should be buffer-zone. If you raise the limit, people will go even faster. Atleast if there's a buffer, people who do stay close to the limit will not be penalized. Since you're from Jersey, ever drive near the Arts Center on the Parkway (Between 117 and 114). There's a pretty decent decline that causes you to go a little faster. So say John has been going 65 the entire way, and without realizing he hits 70. Would a speeding ticket really be warranted?
 

Jzero

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Well thats why the limit should stay and their should be buffer-zone. If you raise the limit, people will go even faster. Atleast if there's a buffer, people who do stay close to the limit will not be penalized. Since you're from Jersey, ever drive near the Arts Center on the Parkway (Between 117 and 114). There's a pretty decent decline that causes you to go a little faster. So say John has been going 65 the entire way, and without realizing he hits 70. Would a speeding ticket really be warranted?

If people know that 65 really means 75, then they'll just go 85 either way. It won't really make much of a difference. I suppose you might be able to fool out-of-staters into thinking it's really 65, but that would create problems on its own.

As for the decline, I don't remember the Artscenter one, but the one on 78 near Phillipsburg is quite a drop. Cops love to sit near the western foot of the hill and pick people up as they go careening down. Maintaining speed is the driver's responsibility. If you don't know to brake or downshift, it's really your own fault, no matter how nitpicky the cop was.

The one on 95S going into PA is a pain, too, especially as the speed limit shifts back to 55 as you approach the bridge.

I'm not saying I've never gone barrelling into P'Burg like 30,000 pounds of bananas, but at the end of the day, if I got pulled over for going even 66MPH, I'd really have no good excuse.
 

brtspears2

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Originally posted by: Tominator
Cops have all kinds of ways to tell your speed. There is no defense against VASCAR. Tell the idiot to slow down! Although with 4 tickets in a year me thinks the state will slow him waaay down!

Yikes, general physics wins again...
 

boyRacer

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Well i dunno...he's actually a nice guy apart from this... but the way he deals with things like this like it doesn't matter is quite disturbing. Oh well... i'll just tell my friend to get him that radar detector if that's what it'll take for everyone to know that nothing can save him. :)
 

Kevin

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Well thats why the limit should stay and their should be buffer-zone. If you raise the limit, people will go even faster. Atleast if there's a buffer, people who do stay close to the limit will not be penalized. Since you're from Jersey, ever drive near the Arts Center on the Parkway (Between 117 and 114). There's a pretty decent decline that causes you to go a little faster. So say John has been going 65 the entire way, and without realizing he hits 70. Would a speeding ticket really be warranted?

If people know that 65 really means 75, then they'll just go 85 either way. It won't really make much of a difference. I suppose you might be able to fool out-of-staters into thinking it's really 65, but that would create problems on its own.

As for the decline, I don't remember the Artscenter one, but the one on 78 near Phillipsburg is quite a drop. Cops love to sit near the western foot of the hill and pick people up as they go careening down. Maintaining speed is the driver's responsibility. If you don't know to brake or downshift, it's really your own fault, no matter how nitpicky the cop was.

The one on 95S going into PA is a pain, too, especially as the speed limit shifts back to 55 as you approach the bridge.

I'm not saying I've never gone barrelling into P'Burg like 30,000 pounds of bananas, but at the end of the day, if I got pulled over for going even 66MPH, I'd really have no good excuse.

I'm talking about gradual declines that still affect your speed not a hill or massive drop...