"you can't have capitalism without racism."

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Can someone explain this to me?
Saw it written on a sign held by someone in a trayvon protest/march.

 

[xBiffx]

Pretty sure that trend died back in the 1860's. Who knows?

 

[Albatross]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l12Csc_lW0Q

Just as insightful as that saying

 

[PokerGuy]

Anyone forming part of that protest march clearly wasn't very bright, so I wouldn't worry much about trying to understand the idiocy.

Race should play absolutely no role in capitalism.

 

[QuantumPion]

It's the progressive idea that blacks are genetically inferior to whites (and asians and hispanics, etc), and therefore any system based on freedom is racist because blacks will do worse than whites on an even playing field.

 

[ichy]

The holder of the sign is a moron. There's your explanation.

 

[Pia]

You can't have humans without racism, so you also can't have X without racism where X is created by humans.

 

[Texashiker]

Can someone explain this to me?
Saw it written on a sign held by someone in a trayvon protest/march.

Maybe the sign is saying we can not have captialism without exploiting certain social groups.

Up into the late 1800s, the US economy exploited slaves.

Up into the mid 1900s, the US economy exploited low class workers.

Current, we exploit cheap overseas labor.

Is exploitation a form of racism?

Do we make excuses why its ok for chinese workers to get paid so little? Did slave owners in the 1800s make excuses why its ok to own slaves?

 

[bfdd]

Maybe the sign is saying we can not have captialism without exploiting certain social groups.

Up into the late 1800s, the US economy exploited slaves.

Up into the mid 1900s, the US economy exploited low class workers.

Current, we exploit cheap overseas labor.

Is exploitation a form of racism?

Do we make excuses why its ok for chinese workers to get paid so little? Did slave owners in the 1800s make excuses why its ok to own slaves?

That's not capitalism, that's utilitarianism.

 

[Atreus21]

Capitalism is economic freedom. That's it.

 

[lotus503]

It's the progressive idea that blacks are genetically inferior to whites (and asians and hispanics, etc), and therefore any system based on freedom is racist because blacks will do worse than whites on an even playing field.

I'm not progressive however you have to temper your level playing field from a similar starting point. Its a good argument that because of slavery and lack of civil rights until the 60s black peopel did not have an even starting point and affirmative action was to level that a bit.

We may be at a tiem where we are doign more harm that good with affirmative action.

But to argue they think they are genetically inferior is about as retarded as you can get.

 

[xBiffx]

Capitalism is economic freedom. That's it.

So if you haz no mony you haz no freedom, amiright?

 

[QuantumPion]

I'm not progressive however you have to temper your level playing field from a similar starting point. Its a good argument that because of slavery and lack of civil rights until the 60s black peopel did not have an even starting point and affirmative action was to level that a bit.

We may be at a tiem where we are doign more harm that good with affirmative action.

But to argue they think they are genetically inferior is about as retarded as you can get.

I'm not making that argument, far from it. The fact that there are many black people in this country that refuse to be victims (i.e. liberals), as well as black people in every other 1st world country that do just fine puts the obvious lie to that notion. I was merely pointing out the logical consequence of the statement "you can't have captialism without racism" infers that black people are genetically inferior.

As for even starting point, that is baloney. Immigrants come to this country with absolutely nothing, often having been effective slaves themselves in their home countries and become highly prosperous. You can't blame a 75% illegitimacy rate on the fact that your great great great great grandfather was a slave.

 

[QuantumPion]

So if you haz no mony you haz no freedom, amiright?

Not sure if serious. If you have freedom you can make money.

 

[xBiffx]

Not sure if serious. If you have freedom you can make money.

Forgot the /sacasm switch. My bad.

 

[lotus503]

I'm not making that argument, far from it. The fact that there are many black people in this country that refuse to be victims (i.e. liberals), as well as black people in every other 1st world country that do just fine puts the obvious lie to that notion. I was merely pointing out the logical consequence of the statement "you can't have captialism without racism" infers that black people are genetically inferior.

As for even starting point, that is baloney. Immigrants come to this country with absolutely nothing, often having been effective slaves themselves in their home countries and become highly prosperous. You can't blame a 75% illegitimacy rate on the fact that your great great great great grandfather was a slave.

what you said was "It's the progressive idea that blacks are genetically inferior to whites "

Unfounded bullshit statement. You dont have to agree that affirmative action was to level the starting point, but thats exactly what it was for.

It applies to immigrants too not just black people.

 

[Craig234]

It's the progressive idea that blacks are genetically inferior to whites (and asians and hispanics, etc), and therefore any system based on freedom is racist because blacks will do worse than whites on an even playing field.

95% of what's said here about the left is wrong or lies, I can't remember the other 5%.

Perverse, ignorant idiocy. You don't snap your fingers and have an even playing field.

 

[lotus503]

Not sure if serious. If you have freedom you can make money.

It takes money to lobby congress to make or change laws to favor you.

So I agree its not that you dont have freedom its that you have less of it without money.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Anyone forming part of that protest march clearly wasn't very bright, so I wouldn't worry much about trying to understand the idiocy.

Race should play absolutely no role in capitalism.

ok, i was wondering how the two tied together, and figured someone smarter than me knew.

given how much media attention this would get, don't you think they would ask someone to vet the signs they hold before randomly printing gibberish on them?

 

[Lithium381]

like quotas and "reverse racism"

 

[Iron Wolf]

95% of what's said here about the left is wrong or lies, I can't remember the other 5%.

Perverse, ignorant idiocy. You don't snap your fingers and have an even playing field.

An interesting idea, since this whole forum is controlled by lefties.

And we've been "snapping our fingers" for 50 years now. How long is it supposed to take?

 

[Bitek]

Makes no sense and not relevant to the case anyway...

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[boomerang]

Race, Republicans, and Democrats

 

[Anarchist420]

95% of what's said here about the left is wrong or lies, I can't remember the other 5%.

Actually, eugenics was a brainchild of the Original Progressive Movement. Remember Margaret Sanger, TJR, and Wilson?

 

[cave_dweller]

Corporations have guns that fire cops