You can only have 5 amendments. Which do you choose?

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lupi

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none, me and the rest of my buds in the reformed continental army would have them all again once we were done.
 

AstroManLuca

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3 - no quartering soldiers
17 - election of senators
18 - prohibition of alcohol
23 - electoral votes for DC
27 - no pay raises for sitting representatives

These are our fundamental rights as a people! :D
 

masteryoda34

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: amdhunter
22 - That way Willy Clinton could run again and fix this mess Bush and Obama made.

Notice to the historically and politically uninformed: this started with Carter and was severely snowballed by Clinton with his "everyone should own a home" bullshit. We're only just now reaping the 'benefits' of their dumbassholery.
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The CRA was passed by the 95th United States Congress and signed into law by President Jimmy Carter in 1977
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act
 

herm0016

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
1, 4, 5, 6, 9

the rest are irrelevant or unimportant


if i could get rid of one, i would get rid of presidential term limits

if i could get rid of two, i would nuke the second amendment

you live up to your screen name. you want a dictatorship?
 

Kanalua

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1st, 2nd, 5th, 10th, 14th:

I believe all the other "Rights" can be "found" under the penumbra of rights included in these 5.

I'm surprised at those who are willing to drop due process!

To me, hardest choice comes down to 9th and 14th...though I believe a liberal court could find either in the 10th and in each other.
 

Kanalua

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1st, 2nd, 5th, 10th, 14th:

I believe all the other "Rights" can be "found" under the penumbra of rights included in these 5.

I'm surprised at those who are willing to drop due process!

To me, hardest choice comes down to 9th and 14th...though I believe a liberal court could find either in the 10th and in each other.
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: herm0016
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
1, 4, 5, 6, 9

the rest are irrelevant or unimportant


if i could get rid of one, i would get rid of presidential term limits

if i could get rid of two, i would nuke the second amendment

you live up to your screen name. you want a dictatorship?

I could argue it is just as, if not more, idiotic to only want the 2nd amendment. There are many places around the world where you can go and have all the guns you want without government intervention and without many of the other rights that come along with many of the other amendments. The 2nd amendment on it's own, without many of the other amendments, wouldn't be quite as great as you think it would be.

KT
 

Billyzeke

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However the entire Bill of Rights (1-10) are must haves with the 2nd being the most important to defend all of the others and against tyranny.
 

Auryg

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Originally posted by: Billyzeke
1-2-4-6-10
However the entire Bill of Rights (1-10) are must haves with the 2nd being the most important to defend all of the others and against tyranny.

I'd say 2 and 1 are equal, and definitely the most important. Of course, then you need due process to make sure both amendments are carried out and so on, but there's a reason those are the first two.

It's sad that people's fears have let them have the government get away with eroding the second amendment. I think there should be some sort of required class in high school where you go over each of the first 10 amendments (and the constitution itself)..and actually experience/do something with each of them, as much as you can. For instance, a little bit of gun training and range time would do a lot to dispel people's fears of guns.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: herm0016
...you want a dictatorship?
I could argue it is just as, if not more, idiotic to only want the 2nd amendment. There are many places around the world where you can go and have all the guns you want without government intervention and without many of the other rights that come along with many of the other amendments. The 2nd amendment on it's own, without many of the other amendments, wouldn't be quite as great as you think it would be.

KT

:thumbsup:
 

TheNinja

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There are so many good ones to pick from, but I choose the fifth! One, Two, Three, Four, FIIIIIIVE. FIFTH!!!
 

Fayd

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: herm0016
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
1, 4, 5, 6, 9

the rest are irrelevant or unimportant


if i could get rid of one, i would get rid of presidential term limits

if i could get rid of two, i would nuke the second amendment

you live up to your screen name. you want a dictatorship?

I could argue it is just as, if not more, idiotic to only want the 2nd amendment. There are many places around the world where you can go and have all the guns you want without government intervention and without many of the other rights that come along with many of the other amendments. The 2nd amendment on it's own, without many of the other amendments, wouldn't be quite as great as you think it would be.

KT

that may be so. but the topic at hand is about amendments, not other things like standard laws and a judicial system. the topic i assumed was all else remaining equal.

thus, the other laws on the books aside from the other amendments would still be there.

FWIW, i think the second amendment by itself would be pretty lousy as well. there is a reason the first amendment is the first amendment. it is the most important. the second amendment is there as a guarantor of the first.
 

spidey07

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I'm surprised people are including things past the first 10. Don't get me wrong about the importance of those but the first 10 are all about what the government can do to the people and really are the most important. If you can only choose 5 then without fail my 5 will always be from the Bill of Rights.
 

Finalnight

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1, 5, 9,13, 14

14 is most powerful due to incorporation doctrine of unenumerated rights which could get some of the others back.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I could argue it is just as, if not more, idiotic to only want the 2nd amendment. There are many places around the world where you can go and have all the guns you want without government intervention and without many of the other rights that come along with many of the other amendments. The 2nd amendment on it's own, without many of the other amendments, wouldn't be quite as great as you think it would be.

KT

The people who "only" want the 2nd are the people who would not be willing to give up any (except the 18th, because we already got rid of that one).
 

sjwaste

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1, 2, 5, 6, 14.

The 4th lacks teeth anymore. We have it now, but what does it mean?
The 8th embodies basic human rights. It follows the 3rd as obvious.
The 9th and 10th, see 4th. The Federal Government has taken on anything and everything, they are meaningless.

The 5th is meaningless without the 14th, which imposes many of the features of the bill of rights on the states. The first is still alive and well, as is the second, despite what some may want. The 6th is necessary for anything resembling justice. I'd say we still have 1, 2, 5, 6, and 14, too. Can still live a pretty good life with those.
 

Squisher

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#9 is all you should need, but like the times you have to spell everything out for people.

 

CountZero

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The 2nd is a joke these days, it is a right to hunt and really nothing more. I guarantee you that there isn't a single decision made in the government that gives even a second of thought to the idea of a violent uprising. I suppose if you removed restrictions on what kind of weapons it would have some teeth but I don't really want government decisions to be made on the basis of which citizens have the bigger guns.

1 is a must, 4,5,6 go together along with 8. I guess that's what I'd go with but really almost all of them are essential.