Yet ANOTHER Trump Supporter Surprised That He is Doing What He SAID He Would Do...

[Indus]

And he's gone.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/us/undocumented-husband-deported/index.html?adkey=bn

 

[ch33zw1z]

Phew, I feel safer already.

 

[glenn1]

Phew, I feel safer already.

Since you guys think laws shouldn't apply to illegal immigrants maybe he should have gone for broke and committed tax evasion also. After all enforcing that law and sending him to jail would have "broken up family" also.

 

[zinfamous]

I feel badly for all the people bamboozled by Trump.

not me! lol.

 

[zinfamous]

Uh, it's not demonization. These guys lust for scapegoats like Welshmen do for sheep. Hasen't Desura repeatedly claimed that it's due to "Libruls" that Trump is in power?

lulz.

where's Welshbloke?

 

[zinfamous]

What's the defense? That it was hard to predict that the lyingest liar was going to lie about his promises?

Yeah, no.

Maybe he can come back in after he helps build the wall.

Is it fair to call something a "promise" when it comes from a dessicated, ambulatory turnip that spews only lies whenever it flaps its lips? I mean, if it only ever knows lies and really can't be bothered to read, be curious about the world--actually educate itself on issues--is it even capable of making promises if it is so profoundly and pridefully ignorant about everything?

Do we need a new term for this? Something like "alternative potential outcomes?"

 

[K1052]

The number of people that voted for Trump even though his "policies" will directly affect them negatively is pretty astounding. It seems they simply didn't believe that he was talking about them, people they know, or their businesses. Just watched a segment on farmers in CA who were pissed at "regulation" and that the Feds didn't help them get nonexistent water to help with the drought so they voted Trump. Now they stand to loose their workforces, and thus their businesses, since they rely on undocumented workers to be viable. Pretty smart.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Since you guys think laws shouldn't apply to illegal immigrants maybe he should have gone for broke and committed tax evasion also. After all enforcing that law and sending him to jail would have "broken up family" also.

aw, you mad bro?

 

[zinfamous]

I think we should have sympathy for people like this, even though it's a self-inflicted wound. There's one simple reason: we need to show the kindness that Trump and the Republicans refuse to offer. They're not going to vote Democrat if they think they're getting just as much cruelty as they do from Trump's camp.

they actually don't think Trump is being cruel to them. He is always right, whatever he says. If they are screwed by Trump, then they either deserve it and so all is well, or they aren't actually being screwed and life is good. The power of suggestion is quite a thing.

Alternatively, it will only ever be the Dem's fault. Trump can stand in front of the world and say that he is going to execute everyone older than 58 and younger than 17, then after the culling, tell the survivors that the democrats did this to them. His surviving supporters would believe him, 100%.

These people are a clear and present threat to humanity.

 

[zinfamous]

The number of people that voted for Trump even though his "policies" will directly affect them negatively is pretty astounding. It seems they simply didn't believe that he was talking about them, people they know, or their businesses. Just watched a segment on farmers in CA who were pissed at "regulation" and that the Feds didn't help them get nonexistent water to help with the drought so they voted Trump. Now they stand to loose their workforces, and thus their businesses, since they rely on undocumented workers to be viable. Pretty smart.

Yeah, I've been listening to the issues facing the generally conservative CA farmers regarding Trump's immigration policy. One dude was ripping up his family's chardonnay grapes and planting almond trees....almond trees. A crop that takes something like ~10 years? to produce to anything, and a gajillion times the amount of water, annually. ...all because he can hire something like 3 people to work the same acreage it would have taken 30 or more workers to harvest grapes. ...and it's not like there are any workers to take these 3 jobs.

Conservative bootstraps demand that any American should do these jobs, so long as them illegals are swept away...but also demand that they accept pitifully low wages that farmers can afford. Oh, you want to increase minimum wage because American workers simply won't do these jobs? Oh, your routinely rejected theory that "Americans will take any job, at any wage, as long as it is there!" isn't holding any water? Oh, but you still believe this theory?

lol @ conservatives. And here's the thing: when CA farmers can't work their fields, everyone in this country takes it in the ass. Good job, republicans. Sorry, midwest--people can't survive on refined wheat and unpalatable corn syrup, alone.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

And he's gone.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/us/undocumented-husband-deported/index.html?adkey=bn

Now he can begin the normal immigration process, hopefully within 18 months he can enter the US legally.

 

[dank69]

Since you guys think laws shouldn't apply to illegal immigrants maybe he should have gone for broke and committed tax evasion also. After all enforcing that law and sending him to jail would have "broken up family" also.

Actually, I think laws should only exist when they protect people from other people. Some people would call that small government but that can't be right since I'm a flaming liberal progressive wise and beautiful woman.

For example, people crossing our border doesn't affect other people negatively unless you use some twisted logic where you think they are stealing jobs that Americans would actually do. However, people not paying taxes affects all of us since if we didn't have laws stopping people from tax evasion, nobody would pay taxes and our government couldn't provide the services we want as a society.

 

[Jhhnn]

Now he can begin the normal immigration process, hopefully within 18 months he can enter the US legally.

Bullshit-

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/after-removal-possibilities-reentry-the-us.html

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Now he can begin the normal immigration process, hopefully within 18 months he can enter the US legally.

Yeah not when he was deported.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclope...tion-must-i-wait-before-returning-the-us.html

His kids will be adults before he can even think about reentry.

Goddammit should have read all replies before responding. Jhhnn even used the same link!

 

[MomentsofSanity]

oops

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Bullshit-

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/after-removal-possibilities-reentry-the-us.html

Guess you didn't read the entire text in the link.

Each I-212 request is considered on its own merits. You do not have to meet a specific standard, or have a qualifying relative in the United States. Before approving your I-212, the U.S. government official handling your case will look at factors such as the reason you were deported, how recently you were removed, the length of time you lived in the U.S., your moral character (or for which crimes, if any, you were convicted), your respect for law and order, evidence of rehabilitation (if you committed a crime), your family obligations, any other reasons that the government may refuse to admit you into the U.S., any hardship to yourself or others were the permission denied, and the need for any services you offer to the United States (for example, if you’ll be applying for a work visa).

I have a colleague who married an illegal, she was able to return after going through the immigration process.

 

[Jhhnn]

Guess you didn't read the entire text in the link.



I have a colleague who married an illegal, she was able to return after going through the immigration process.

You realize it's all highly political, I hope, like SS disability. Don't expect an Admin that's Hell bent on throwing out illegals to let them back in.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

You realize it's all highly political, I hope, like SS disability. Don't expect an Admin that's Hell bent on throwing out illegals to let them back in.

Guess they'll never know until they file a I-212 request, if approved they can begin the normal immigration procedures.

 

[glenn1]

Actually, I think laws should only exist when they protect people from other people. Some people would call that small government but that can't be right since I'm a flaming liberal progressive wise and beautiful woman.

For example, people crossing our border doesn't affect other people negatively unless you use some twisted logic where you think they are stealing jobs that Americans would actually do. However, people not paying taxes affects all of us since if we didn't have laws stopping people from tax evasion, nobody would pay taxes and our government couldn't provide the services we want as a society.

And yet you seem OK with not calling for the outright repeal of laws that criminalize the 'crossing our border' for some reason. Maybe because as I've said you don't truly favor open borders but rather just want a permanent underclass of people working on your behalf for sub-market rates and subject to deportation at any time to keep them in line.

 

[theeedude]

And he's gone.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/us/undocumented-husband-deported/index.html?adkey=bn

Adios, bad hombre.

 

[Jhhnn]

And yet you seem OK with not calling for the outright repeal of laws that criminalize the 'crossing our border' for some reason. Maybe because as I've said you don't truly favor open borders but rather just want a permanent underclass of people working on your behalf for sub-market rates and subject to deportation at any time to keep them in line.

Amnesty goes a long way towards relieving the social injustice you mention, particularly given that 2/3 of illegals have been here 10 years or more. The abuse they suffer is precisely because they are illegal.

 

[dank69]

And yet you seem OK with not calling for the outright repeal of laws that criminalize the 'crossing our border' for some reason. Maybe because as I've said you don't truly favor open borders but rather just want a permanent underclass of people working on your behalf for sub-market rates and subject to deportation at any time to keep them in line.

I support immigration reform where the entire process is relaxed to allow just about anyone to enter after a background check. No artificial limits on quantities.

 

[glenn1]

Amnesty goes a long way towards relieving the social injustice you mention, particularly given that 2/3 of illegals have been here 10 years or more. The abuse they suffer is precisely because they are illegal.

So why do you keep harping on about duration? The financial crisis was 10 years ago and yet you still want to have show trials for the bankers who you think are enemies of the state. If anything duration should be an aggrevating factor rather than mitigating, they've had plenty of time to attempt to seek legal status and did not.

 

[dank69]

So why do you keep harping on about duration? The financial crisis was 10 years ago and yet you still want to have show trials for the bankers who you think are enemies of the state. If anything duration should be an aggrevating factor rather than mitigating, they've had plenty of time to attempt to seek legal status and did not.

Again, the bankers negatively affected other people in a major way while illegal immigrants do not. Well, except for bunching conservative underpants.

 

[glenn1]

Again, the bankers negatively affected other people in a major way while illegal immigrants do not. Well, except for bunching conservative underpants.

And then do you also want to prosecute the countless homeowners who lied on mortgage applications, conducted "strategic defaults," squatted in their in default homes for months or years, and otherwise negatively affected other people in a major way?

You do realize that you could basically express your point in a simpler and more honest way if you corrected your criteria "protect people against people who negatively affected other people" to "people who are rich enough for me to want to enforce the laws on them unlike the poor, illegal immigrants, and others who shouldn't have the laws enforced against them."