Yet another Right Wing Olympic Rage Thread - Transgender (or not) edition

[zinfamous]

I do consider it odd. The info I’ve seen so far has pointed to Russia starting a rumor, and it taking hold over the usual suspects.

yes indeed. One thing that you can reliably set your clock to is greenman falling for the newest tranche of Russian propaganda.

 

[ch33zw1z]

It’s also funny to see conservatives around the world now start to change their qualifiers for what makes a woman a woman. Weird, are we all in agreement that biological sex and genders may not be so easily defined as what parts a person is born with?

 

[WelshBloke]

Basically my point is if a competitor becomes dangerous to their opponent it’s time to have a talk about what is expected.

It's a sport where you're supposed to do harm to your competitor. It's intrinsically dangerous. We are either ok with that or we should ban boxing.
One of the ways of winning is to cause a traumatic head injury to your opponent.

 

[zinfamous]

It’s also funny to see conservatives around the world now start to change their qualifiers for what makes a woman a woman. Weird, are we all in agreement that biological sex and genders may not be so easily defined as what parts a person is born with?

part of the issue here is that they don't even know what they are arguing, which is the entire point of their GOP handlers spending the last several decades attacking real education in the United States. Because they no longer understand what is real, how to differentiate fact from nonsense, how science works and actual gained human knowledge, they don't have the capacity to form a solid foundation for their current ideology outside "it feels this way and I've always believed this thing, therefore true." That is literally all they have.

When they start arguing chromosomes and gestation and hell, especially the female reproductive system which they will never fucking understand, they have nothing to go on outside of rightwing propaganda peddlers that tell them what to think. It should never be surprising that they absolutely don't understand what XY or XX or XXY means from a biological perspective, because it can suddenly mean whatever it means. This is literally why greenman can spend years arguing that XY only ever means "man" and XX only ever means "woman," then suddenly declare that not to be true when it suits their bias. He doesn't even know he's doing that, but here he is doing it: brain opened and ready for the next horseshit pile of lies to fuel his hateful bias.

And he'll never admit that this is something that he can't possibly understand for the simple reason that he doesn't want to understand it. Or that he needs to understand these things to make an actual informed opinion about the world. He's literally been voting for decades to make himself and his peers dumber and fucking dumber by the year. That is the goal, and I think he is rather proud of this "system that he is very lucky to live in."

 

[hal2kilo]

It's a sport where you're supposed to do harm to your competitor. It's intrinsically dangerous. We are either ok with that or we should ban boxing.
One of the ways of winning is to cause a traumatic head injury to your opponent.

At this point in time with all of the evidence of CTE caused by repeated blunt force trauma, I find it hard to believe that professional boxing or UFC for that matter is a thing.

 

[fskimospy]

At this point in time with all of the evidence of CTE caused by repeated blunt force trauma, I find it hard to believe that professional boxing or UFC for that matter is a thing.

It's darkly funny that if we wanted to make boxing safer overall we would probably go back to bareknuckle. Current boxing is basically a quest to brain damage your opponent into submission as far as I can tell.

 

[WelshBloke]

At this point in time with all of the evidence of CTE caused by repeated blunt force trauma, I find it hard to believe that professional boxing or UFC for that matter is a thing.

I'm in the ban it camp tbh. The more evidence that comes out just shows that there's no safe way to cause head trauma to someone.

 

[KMFJD]

Well look at that, she won!

 

[brycejones]

Well look at that, she won!

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This must mean the Chinese boxer is a man too.

/s

 

[KMFJD]

This must mean the Chinese boxer is a man too.

/s

i believe people have been insinuating that (saw a piers morgan post about just that)

 

[sandorski]

This must mean the Chinese boxer is a man too.

/s

People are making that claim.

 

[brycejones]

i believe people have been insinuating that (saw a piers morgan post about just that)

People are making that claim.

For once I would like to be disappointed by conservatives.

 

[pmv]

Nothing to do with transgender issues (at least, not yet it isn't) but just strikes me as another example of how strange high-level sport is. A life entirely devoted to jumping into bodies of standing water (and immediately climbing out of them again). For the purposes of national prestige.

China have won every diving gold at Paris 2024 - here's why they're so good

Chen Yiwen's gold on Friday kept up China's 100 per cent record at the Paris Games with one event to go

inews.co.uk

 

[WelshBloke]

Nothing to do with transgender issues (at least, not yet it isn't) but just strikes me as another example of how strange high-level sport is. A life entirely devoted to jumping into bodies of standing water (and immediately climbing out of them again). For the purposes of national prestige.

China have won every diving gold at Paris 2024 - here's why they're so good

Chen Yiwen's gold on Friday kept up China's 100 per cent record at the Paris Games with one event to go

inews.co.uk

Swimming in general weirds me out.
If it was just swim 200m as fast as you can I'd be on board but it's swim 200m waving your arms this way, now swim 200m waving your arms in a different way! It's the equivalent of the walking as fast as you can but not running thing but in the water!

 

[Stokely]

Fantastic way to exercise though! Especially when/if you get overweight and jogging hurts your knees....

I grew up in FL and you'd be a damn fool to not take your kids to swimming lessons here...so I was tossed into a pool at age 2 and taught to swim

Anyway, I get a kick out of conservatives getting so steamed about other people's genitals. It would be more funny if it weren't so harmful. Especially when they claim it's hurting sanctity of their marriage and all that bs. Got a reaaaal strong marriage there guy, if what random strangers do puts it in peril...guess the worry is that the baby-maker might look around and there's life beyond making sammiches and churning out offspring.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Swimming in general weirds me out.
If it was just swim 200m as fast as you can I'd be on board but it's swim 200m waving your arms this way, now swim 200m waving your arms in a different way! It's the equivalent of the walking as fast as you can but not running thing but in the water!

different techniques. think of it similar to running 100m vs 200m vs 400m vs 1000m vs 5000m vs 41920m (marathon).

the technique used to run a 100m sprint is nowhere near the same as running a marathon.

 

[sandorski]

Fantastic way to exercise though! Especially when/if you get overweight and jogging hurts your knees....

I grew up in FL and you'd be a damn fool to not take your kids to swimming lessons here...so I was tossed into a pool at age 2 and taught to swim

Anyway, I get a kick out of conservatives getting so steamed about other people's genitals. It would be more funny if it weren't so harmful. Especially when they claim it's hurting sanctity of their marriage and all that bs. Got a reaaaal strong marriage there guy, if what random strangers do puts it in peril...guess the worry is that the baby-maker might look around and there's life beyond making sammiches and churning out offspring.

Isn't swimming in Florida just Gatorbate?

 

[WelshBloke]

different techniques. think of it similar to running 100m vs 200m vs 400m vs 1000m vs 5000m vs 41920m (marathon).

the technique used to run a 100m sprint is nowhere near the same as running a marathon.

That's not quite the same thing. No one says what gait you have to run a marathon. You can sprint from the start if you want, you probably won't get far though.
I'd be fine with different lengths of swimming just not the "wave your arms this way" "kick your legs this way" thing that artificially makes it a different thing.

 

[WelshBloke]

Isn't swimming in Florida just Gatorbate?

I'd totally get behind an "out swim the gator" event!

 

[IronWing]

I'd totally get behind an "out swim the gator" event!

Every single Olympic sport would be improved with the addition of a clan of hyenas.

 

[kage69]

Isn't swimming in Florida just Gatorbate?

Private pools kill far more children sadly. Stokely is correct. Getting your kids "water emergency ready" is a necessity really, especially if you live on the islands like my family did. As a teen down in The Keys, I helped my mom get my much younger siblings trained up in a class designed for infants and toddlers. Led by a professional, a mother who would still have a son if he'd have known how to swim. It's both great and terrifying to watch, my 'older brother dive in time' reflex would kick in every few minutes, made me a wreck. Listening to your three year sister sound like she's getting waterboarded is not easy. All the kids get really freaked out at first, but they learn to relax and handle it. Final test is getting tossed into the middle of the deep end wearing full clothing and footwear. Kids float on their backs and breathe, then at intervals flip over and paddle, then back onto their backs for a breather. This is repeated until they are in contact with the wall and can hold on.

It works.

When I was in Florida I stayed out of the fresh water for the most part on account of snakes. Too many damn water moccasins down there, those things are assholes.

 

[pmv]

I'd totally get behind an "out swim the gator" event!

I had a similar thought with regard to Olympic cycling events. When I see them just racing round a track with no potholes, distracted pedestrians, sign-posts in the middle of the track, or half-witted drivers eating their breakfast at the wheel, I always think "call that cycling? where's the challenge in that?".

Just, instead of an alligator, substitute a red-faced man in a white van waving a copy of the Daily Mail, racing round the velodrome. Even, in a similar spirit to different stroke styles for swimming, mix it up a bit with events featuring... a distracted posh woman in a 4x4, a spoiled rich kid in a high-performance sports car, and a sales-rep in an audi.

 

[WelshBloke]

I had a similar thought with regard to Olympic cycling events. When I see them just racing round a track with no potholes, distracted pedestrians, sign-posts in the middle of the track, or half-witted drivers eating their breakfast at the wheel, I always think "call that cycling? where's the challenge in that?".

Just, instead of an alligator, substitute a red-faced man in a white van waving a copy of the Daily Mail, racing round the velodrome. Even, in a similar spirit to different stroke styles for swimming, mix it up a bit with events featuring... a distracted posh woman in a 4x4, a spoiled rich kid in a high-performance sports car, and a sales-rep in an audi.

Ok. I definitely think that we should put you up n charge of the new events!


TBH some of the cycling events are incomprehensible. What the hell is going on in that one where the guy in front nearly stops and the other guy isn't allowed to whizz past going "see you loser!"?

 

[hal2kilo]

Nothing to do with transgender issues (at least, not yet it isn't) but just strikes me as another example of how strange high-level sport is. A life entirely devoted to jumping into bodies of standing water (and immediately climbing out of them again). For the purposes of national prestige.

China have won every diving gold at Paris 2024 - here's why they're so good

Chen Yiwen's gold on Friday kept up China's 100 per cent record at the Paris Games with one event to go

inews.co.uk

I stopped caring when I saw synchronized diving. Seriously, a sport?

 

[Dave_5k]

That's not quite the same thing. No one says what gait you have to run a marathon. You can sprint from the start if you want, you probably won't get far though.
I'd be fine with different lengths of swimming just not the "wave your arms this way" "kick your legs this way" thing that artificially makes it a different thing.

We could start adding in for track the 200 meter backwards run, and the 100 meter handstand sprint, just to bring track up to speed (Crossfit has actually done the 2nd one as a competitive event, just not the Olympics yet...). Along with the already added 20k/50k race walk.