Yet another noob thread: 6 month fitness plan/routine

Turin39789

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So I'm getting married in October, and I've already been working on living healthier, but despite thinking about it all the time, I'm not getting far. I've read things here there and everywhere, have enough of a concept of nutrition to ah heck myself.

I'm at the point where I need to develop a routine that I can follow for at least 6 months. Getting married in October, I'm already trying to get healthy and I figure thats a good deadline. It's also plenty of time to realise my goals. I think.

I think I'm going to need to develop meal plans for the week. I'm busy and don't always have time to cook each night so I like to make a large pork roast or chicken breast dish on sundays to last me through the week for lunches and dinners. I tried tracking myself on fitday, but don't have internet access throughout the day anymore and when I tried it seemed very time consuming and I eventually abandoned it.

We need to eat out less, and I unfortunately get a health helping of extra calories through the form of fat burn inhibiting alcohol on the weekends. I like to cook at home, but it seems like it's a chore to search out recipes that don't want to add lots of fat or sugar to vegetables and meat. I know that peanuts are good for a snack and have the unsalted roasted in my drawer. I like my tuna and after trying to eat it straight for awhile I now have gone back to using a tablesoon of miracle whip and some pickle relish like I was raised. I'm worried about eating it too often though. It's easier to get the routine down during the week, weekends are harder to stay healthy. I usually do oatmeal for breakfast(I've tried steel cut and haven't given up on them, but they seem harder to get cooked and flavor well, so for now the little flavored instant packets of rolled oats usually win out), I've been keeping bags of apples and/or oranges at the desk to snack on, though I think I need to work these out and veggies in as snacks. My lunch and dinner I usually do a chicken breast or pork loin/chop serving, some veg, and maybe a salad or something else. I'm worried that either the prep and fretting over the nutrition components keep me from having something ready to go, or I get to strict and don't eat enough and wind up getting something bad and easy. I've mostly stopped buying anything too unhealthy at the grocery and fast food, but sometimes it happens as a stress reliever(foster puppy got parvo yesterday, I ate taco bell)


I'm 5'11" and 210 lbs. I run 3 miles regularly around the house when it's warm enough, otherwise I can do it on the track at the gym. Generally when I get to the gym, my poor routine is to either run 3 miles and then go play with weights. Lately I've been running one mile, doing some sprinting during it(fake HIIT FTW) and then going over to the weight/machine area. Over there I usually just do bicep curls(3 sets of 10, 35#) and then get on their leg sled because I've never done squats. I usually vary the weight on this machine, but can do 260 lbs for 3 sets of 10, but I'm sure I couldn't squat the bar. I'll go back and forth between these two. I run, go do 10 curls, go do 10 on the sled, 10 curls, 10 on the sled, curls, sled, run some more. Sometimes the extra running goes in between the curls/sled. I know these aren't the best and they definetly aren't comprehensive. My schools gym is fairly comprehensive, but most of the exercises/plans mention 100 things I don't know how to do, so I stick with these two, that I know can make me sore and won't kill me. Although when I load up the leg sled it does leave red scratch marks on my shoulders. The squat racks, bench presses, smith machines etc are located in one area and I've been pretty much staying otu of there. Upstairs is the track, bike/treadmills, dumbells, leg press, leg sled, curl machines, assisted pull up thinga-ma-jig etc. I don't know how little I bench, because I like to work out alone.

Got a personal trainer once, but he was overbooked and had to let us go, and it's hard to find one with availability that fits into my work and school schedule. My fiancee and I both had a joint session with him, and it was nice learining the exercises(psuedo squat with exercise ball against between me and the wall and two dumbells, other good leg works) but I forgot most of them after the session. We got a good workout that day but I'd rather learn fewer specific exercises with a routine that I can follow for a month on my own, then meet back with him/her.

I've read stuff here, tried the fitday, looked at the bodybuilding sites/forums. I have a bag of ON rocky road at home, but won't let myself touch it until I learn to eat right/exercise right.


Big post, probably mostly rambling, I'm going to keep the thread going though. I figure I have the rest of the month to actually hammer the right thinking into my head, then I'm going to mardi gras and I'll probably start up after that. Doesn't mean I'm going to be scarfing bad food in the meantime, but just a timetable to get 90% of the details hammered out, and I know I'm going to enjoy some excesses beverages and foods while in the Big Easy. Fiancee wants to do a similar thing, but my limited nutritional knolwedge seems to just aggravate her, and she's a veggie so her diet will be even more complicated and she's starting to look at weight watchers etc plans. I'd rather we work it out on our own but I don't have it all down yet.


 

Wonderful Pork

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alright, I didn't read that whole thing (I tried though!). I'm not qualified in any way to offer any type of workout/nutriton advice so be cautious, this is just what I've done.

1. Cleaning up your diet should be the #1 priority. My food selection process is: if you cant grow/hunt it then you shouldn't eat it. Of course you can't be perfect, but it really cuts down on the breads, chips, sodas and other refined food that frankly are terrible for you. It is still possible to go out to eat, just pick something grilled with veggies.

2. There are a million workout routines out there. Personally I do resistance training 3 days/week and cardio 3 days a week. I randomly select the exercise and order each week to keep things fresh. Stick to compound movements with heavier weights and lower reps. Staples include: squat, bench press, dips, pullups, and rows. Do those first, before moving to isolation exercises. Even if you struggle with just your bodyweight or less these exercises the largest muscle groups.

3. Consistency is king! Go to the gym every time you are scheduled to (unless you're deathly ill or something), even if you don't feel like it. Keep a logbook of the workout and weights used, it keeps you honest. I go in the morning before work, it leaves my schedule flexible enough to work OT or go out to dinner, or whatever I want without worrying about skipping a workout. There are nights that I go to bed at 1am, but am up at 4:30a to make sure I'm at the gym.

4. Start your workout/eating habits NOW, not after you get back from something. I'd suggest starting on Monday 1/14, it gives you this weekend to shop and figure out your routine. Its better to get ahead for these 3 weeks then gain a bunch of weight now and be even further behind. Just my 2c.

good luck.
 

Pugnax

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^^ All good advice especially #3!!! Many people start with good intentions but don't have the willpower to continue on. Heck all the new people for their new year's resolutions at my gym on january 3rd...I'd say only 2 or 3 of them are still working out on a consistent basis.

Also, drop the bicep curl, at least for now (why is all of AT obsessed with bicep size?! ..) . Like Wonderful Pork says, you want compound exercises, namely squat, deadlift, and bench; if you don't know the proper form, watch youtube videos, use low weight, find a friend or someone at the gym to show you how (or watch someone doing them). Don't waste your time doing anything else until you know how to do those exercises.

This guide should help http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=998224

You also mentioned the personal training session, if you gym offers one, might not hurt to try and get another one and bring a notebook so they can work with you to get a routine for 3-4 days/week. Once it's written down, now you've got a plan so when you go to the gym, there's no screwing around, you'll know exactly what you are going to do. I always have mine with me, has all my exercises for the day and the weights I'll be attempting.

Is 6 months enough time? I'm not sure. I didn't start aggressively lifting until about 1 yr ago, and now a year later, I'm feeling pretty good about it and have noticed some improvements. You can certainly have some gains in 6 months, but building muscle takes time and dedication (and a good diet!!!!), especially for some of the exercises if you aren't used to doing them, your body needs to work on building up the stabilizing muscles first.

Have fun!
 

onlyCOpunk

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Everyone has given good advice so far. And it sounds like part of the battle for you will be consistently going to gym. If you have trouble with it then take on a personal trainer. Maybe 3 times a week for the first week or two, then once a week or every other week after that. I know people will think it's lame, but it will also keep you going as you've paid for it so you HAVE to go. Not to mention they will correct your form and make sure you are doing what yo are supposed to be doing correctly.

One more tip, do weights before cardio.
 

Wonderful Pork

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Originally posted by: Pugnax
^^ All good advice especially #3!!! Many people start with good intentions but don't have the willpower to continue on. Heck all the new people for their new year's resolutions at my gym on january 3rd...I'd say only 2 or 3 of them are still working out on a consistent basis.

Also, drop the bicep curl, at least for now (why is all of AT obsessed with bicep size?! ..) . Like Wonderful Pork says, you want compound exercises, namely squat, deadlift, and bench; if you don't know the proper form, watch youtube videos, use low weight, find a friend or someone at the gym to show you how (or watch someone doing them). Don't waste your time doing anything else until you know how to do those exercises.

This guide should help http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=998224

You also mentioned the personal training session, if you gym offers one, might not hurt to try and get another one and bring a notebook so they can work with you to get a routine for 3-4 days/week. Once it's written down, now you've got a plan so when you go to the gym, there's no screwing around, you'll know exactly what you are going to do. I always have mine with me, has all my exercises for the day and the weights I'll be attempting.

Is 6 months enough time? I'm not sure. I didn't start aggressively lifting until about 1 yr ago, and now a year later, I'm feeling pretty good about it and have noticed some improvements. You can certainly have some gains in 6 months, but building muscle takes time and dedication (and a good diet!!!!), especially for some of the exercises if you aren't used to doing them, your body needs to work on building up the stabilizing muscles first.

Have fun!

From reading OPs post it wasn't entirely clear what his goals were (ie gain muscle or lose fat) by going by 5'11 210 I'm going to assume its lose fat.

6 months is more than enough time to see some tangible gains. At the rate of 1 lb per week of weight lost (not all fat of course) that would be about 24 lbs (6*4*1)! 1 lb per week is a caloric deficit of 500 calories per day. Say 200-300 burned through workout, only a 200 calorie cut in food. Thats a 20 oz of coke or some chips! Its doable.

OP, one more suggestion: write down your goals, something short term and long term. I find the act of actually writing them down makes me focus on them more.

 

Turin39789

Lifer
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From reading OPs post it wasn't entirely clear what his goals were (ie gain muscle or lose fat) by going by 5'11 210 I'm going to assume its lose fat.

Yea, it's to lose fat. I really don't look roly poly, but the belly is there and I'm up to a size 38 waist. I'd like to lose fat, maintain/gain muscle, but the primary goal is to start eating better and losing the waist line.
 

Turin39789

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The meal plan for this week is going to be oatmeal for breakfast, a piece of pork or chicken for lunch with a can of vegetables(easier than fresh for now), and dinner will be pork/chicken dish with veggies as well. It's basic and not planned out, which will probably encourage cheating, but I'll also have an apple and orange each day for snacks at work and a jar of unsalted peanuts.

Still working on the workout plan, for now the big step is just to get there after class regularly. I'm looking into the rippetoe strength plan that another member is using, but I think I may have to get a trainer to wak me through the exercises, as I've never done a squat/deadlift etc and the basic squat motion as I can work it out, even without weights, is akward to get parallel/below.
 

funks

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Originally posted by: Turin39789
From reading OPs post it wasn't entirely clear what his goals were (ie gain muscle or lose fat) by going by 5'11 210 I'm going to assume its lose fat.

Yea, it's to lose fat. I really don't look roly poly, but the belly is there and I'm up to a size 38 waist. I'd like to lose fat, maintain/gain muscle, but the primary goal is to start eating better and losing the waist line.

Try to eat six small meals a day. Depends on how much your daily budget is for food but you might want check out your local grocery store and snag some tv dinners that's on sale. Stuff like lean cuisine and etc (the ones around 300 calories per package - depends on what your required daily caloric intake is). You'll have alot more variety and won't get sick of eating the same thing day in and day out. Don't worry if the package doesn't say low fat on it - just make sure the calories are within range.


 

KoolDrew

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As a beginner your goal should be to build a foundation based off of the main compounds lifts. Stick to squats, deadlifts, chin-ups/pulldowns, rows, dips, bench presses, and overhead presses. I wouldn't worry about any other movements at this point. The only exception is abdominal work which is perfectly acceptable. Try something like this 3x a week...

Squat 3x10
Deadlift 3x8
Overhead Press 3x8
Chins 3x8
Bench Press 2x8
Rows 2x8

It may seem like much, especially 3x a week, but as a novice most of the adaptions will be neurological anyway, so recovery shouldn't be an issue and the higher frequency of the compound lifts will help with that as well as getting proper form. Eventually you will probably have to adjust the above routine and at the very least split it into two separate workouts though. When that time comes, something like this would be good...

Monday/Friday:
Squat
Bench Press
Rows

Wednesday:
Deadlift
OH Press
Chins

Ab work (weight crunches) can be added Monday & Wednesday and some direct arm work (bicep curls, tricep pulldowns) on Friday. Since your goal is weight loss doing cardio on off days or after your workout may be a good idea as well. Will help with overall health and will create a small calorie deficit allowing you more flexibility with your diet. Always keep in mind the real calorie deficit and weight loss will come from adjusting your diet more than anything though.