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Yet Another Killer Cop Thread....Phoenix edition

KMFJD

KMFJD

Lifer
I'm sick of this shit. Come on good shoot guys. What's the technicality of minutia you're going to talk about instead of someone just blatantly being murdered.
 
hal2kilo said:
I'm sick of this shit. Come on good shoot guys. What's the technicality of minutia you're going to talk about instead of someone just blatantly being murdered.
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Yup
Patiently waiting for the usual suspects who like in hang out in "black threads" wasting everyones time with nonsense
 
alien42 said:
the incident is horrible but the fact that the department tried to cover it up with what they released publicly is disgusting and the bigger problem. when cops start holding their own accountable, maybe we can start to make some progress.
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It's never going to change in that regard until you eliminate teams.

With things like unions, they will defend their clan members until the end of time. It's in their legal and monetary benefit to do such.

Checks and balances doesn't mean a superior officer has the authority to reprimand/punish someone... Checks and balances is someone that is OUTSIDE of the union having the authority.
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
It's never going to change in that regard until you eliminate teams.

With things like unions, they will defend their clan members until the end of time. It's in their legal and monetary benefit to do such.

Checks and balances doesn't mean a superior officer has the authority to reprimand/punish someone... Checks and balances is someone that is OUTSIDE of the union having the authority.
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Is it your opinion, then, that police officers shooting innocents is in fact normal human behavior, and that we merely need checks and balances to be addressed to they can be punished appropriately?
 
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great read, why aren't police accountable at all
 
KMFJD said:
Yet another killer cop in fear for his life so he shoots innocent homeowner...

www.azcentral.com

It started as a noise complaint. It ended in another fatal Phoenix police shooting

The episode is one in a string of Phoenix police shootings and has reignited criticism from advocates.
www.azcentral.com www.azcentral.com
newsmaven.io

WATCH: Phoenix Cops Kill Man after Responding to Noise Complaint over Video Game

Ryan Whitaker was sitting at home with his girlfriend playing video games when he was killed by police.
newsmaven.io
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We have a name, Let's get an address for it.
 
TheVrolok said:
Great read.

Unions and the religion that surrounds Policing and the Armed Forces in this county are probably good places to start?
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God yes. I can't stand the idolatry of armed forces and police officers. They are jobs and they are voluntary.

And for all the dangers of policing, being a logger or fisherman is a far deadlier occupation in the US.
www.cnbc.com

The 10 most dangerous jobs in America

Here's a look at the 10 most dangerous jobs in America, based on data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The most common workplace deaths were related to transportation
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
 
Fenixgoon said:
God yes. I can't stand the idolatry of armed forces and police officers. They are jobs and they are voluntary.

And for all the dangers of policing, being a logger or fisherman is a far deadlier occupation in the US.
www.cnbc.com

The 10 most dangerous jobs in America

Here's a look at the 10 most dangerous jobs in America, based on data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The most common workplace deaths were related to transportation
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
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Those professions need to come up with a signature color so we can make flags and bumper stickers.
 
Fenixgoon said:
God yes. I can't stand the idolatry of armed forces and police officers. They are jobs and they are voluntary.

And for all the dangers of policing, being a logger or fisherman is a far deadlier occupation in the US.
www.cnbc.com

The 10 most dangerous jobs in America

Here's a look at the 10 most dangerous jobs in America, based on data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The most common workplace deaths were related to transportation
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
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The first time I saw the police hero worship flag I was appalled. I guess this is what it's come to. But in that moment, surrounded by people, I was the problem for challenging it's purpose.
 
Fenixgoon said:
God yes. I can't stand the idolatry of armed forces and police officers. They are jobs and they are voluntary.

And for all the dangers of policing, being a logger or fisherman is a far deadlier occupation in the US.
www.cnbc.com

The 10 most dangerous jobs in America

Here's a look at the 10 most dangerous jobs in America, based on data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The most common workplace deaths were related to transportation
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
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So... being a garbageman is more dangerous than the "thin blue line"? Had no idea.
 
brycejones said:
Any minute our resident humble criminologist will be along to argue how this is tots cool.
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Fuck you.

What the officer that shot did was completely unjustified. He should be sent to jail for murder on this. I already made a thread on this originally before it was locked since this one came first.

That aside, there are more than a few resident race baiters around here in that have claimed in previous threads that this kind of scenarios don't ever happen to white people. You are a piece of garbage here for even thinking I defend cops just for being cops. I defend lawful actions of whomever is being lawful. Your snide remarks show how much you hate white people and the law though.
 
Fenixgoon said:
God yes. I can't stand the idolatry of armed forces and police officers. They are jobs and they are voluntary.

And for all the dangers of policing, being a logger or fisherman is a far deadlier occupation in the US.
www.cnbc.com

The 10 most dangerous jobs in America

Here's a look at the 10 most dangerous jobs in America, based on data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The most common workplace deaths were related to transportation
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
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Logger and fisherman jobs are also voluntary. The vast majority of problems that loggers and fisherman encounter are due to poor preparations or because they are doing less than legal activities at the time and trying to not be caught doing it. Which means they take less measures to ensure their safety all the time. It's not exactly an apples to apples comparison though. I'm just playing devil's advocate here though on your claim about dangers of jobs.

Still, police should be held to a higher standard of accountability as well. I also dislike the whole idea of unions for non-private sector jobs. Not super keen on it for private sector either, but they do less damage overall than the non-private ones. Also any fallout over a private sector union is limited only to that business and not a whole community of people unlike police union typically.
 
HumblePie said:
Logger and fisherman jobs are also voluntary. The vast majority of problems that loggers and fisherman encounter are due to poor preparations or because they are doing less than legal activities at the time and trying to not be caught doing it. Which means they take less measures to ensure their safety all the time. It's not exactly an apples to apples comparison though. I'm just playing devil's advocate here though on your claim about dangers of jobs.

Still, police should be held to a higher standard of accountability as well. I also dislike the whole idea of unions for non-private sector jobs. Not super keen on it for private sector either, but they do less damage overall than the non-private ones. Also any fallout over a private sector union is limited only to that business and not a whole community of people unlike police union typically.
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I assume you have some sort of evidence to support that claim? Because it is straight up comical otherwise.
 
Fenixgoon said:
I assume you have some sort of evidence to support that claim? Because it is straight up comical otherwise.
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Amren link inbound.

"Police officers experience problems because their largely dealing in less than legal activities".

Hmm, doesn't sound too far off
 
Fenixgoon said:
I assume you have some sort of evidence to support that claim? Because it is straight up comical otherwise.
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Your link lists the common fatalities associated with the jobs. Loggers face deaths when trees fall on them. Experienced loggers at a legal job site with the full force of company protection around them minimize the likelyhood of tree's falling on their heads as required by logging industry standards and organizations like OSHA. Loggers that are doing illegal logging typically aren't concerned as much about safety as they are about getting the trees they want out as quickly as possible. The former leads to less fatal accidents and the later doesn't. I don't understand how you can't deduce that yourself.

You'd have been much better off with your comparison instead of excavation workers, steel workers, or garbage collectors instead. They have more dangerous jobs as well overall sort of without illegal activities inflating numbers.

The issue is one of comparability. Policing overall isn't super dangerous as most police in the vast majority of the country don't do any interactions beyond deskwork or traffic violations. Beat cops though in heavy violent criminal areas face far more danger than say an Andry Griffith from Mayberry. It doesn't make for a good comparison at all to lump them all together.
 
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HumblePie said:
Your link lists the common fatalities associated with the jobs. Loggers face deaths when trees fall on them. Experienced loggers at a legal job site with the full force of company protection around them minimize the likelyhood of tree's falling on their heads as required by logging industry standards and organizations like OSHA. Loggers that are doing illegal logging typically aren't concerned as much about safety as they are about getting the trees they want out as quickly as possible. The former leads to less fatal accidents and the later doesn't. I don't understand how you can't deduce that yourself.

You'd have been much better off with your comparison instead of excavation workers, steel workers, or garbage collectors instead. They have more dangerous jobs as well overall sort of without illegal activities inflating numbers.

The issue is one of comparability. Policing overall isn't super dangerous as most police in the vast majority of the country don't do any interactions beyond deskwork or traffic violations. Beat cops though in heavy violent criminal areas face far more danger than say an Andry Griffith from Mayberry. It doesn't make for a good comparison at all to lump them all together.
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So in short, you have provided no evidence that the majority (or even ANY) of deaths are due to illegal activity. Other than "death occurred therefore it must have been illegal activity" which is an absolutely fantastic jump to a conclusion.

Also you clearly did not read the link. I promise it's just a list, not a Ph.D thesis.

#8 - steel construction workers.
#7 - agricultural workers
#5 - refuse collectors
#4 - roofers
 
HumblePie said:
Fuck you.

What the officer that shot did was completely unjustified. He should be sent to jail for murder on this. I already made a thread on this originally before it was locked since this one came first.

That aside, there are more than a few resident race baiters around here in that have claimed in previous threads that this kind of scenarios don't ever happen to white people. You are a piece of garbage here for even thinking I defend cops just for being cops. I defend lawful actions of whomever is being lawful. Your snide remarks show how much you hate white people and the law though.
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First of all, NOBODY here has EVER claimed unjustified shootings of white never happen, so more lies from you.

Your M.O is when there is an unjustified shooting of a black person you will bend over backwards to claim it was justified. You'll have to answer why you do this in almost every case. Just go back and look at your comments in the Ahmed Arbery case is a classic example.

IMO this cop will be arrested very soon meanwhile Breonna Taylor's killers are still on the loose.
 
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