Yet ANOTHER Good, Family Values Republican bites the dust

[HomerJS]

Perfect GOP candidate for POTUS in 2020. Fits their mold.

 

[ch33zw1z]

No one stopped him from moving to a more tolerant state.

Not disagreeing, it's just Christianity, religion in general, has a way of being built in from a young age. It's not an easy thing to discard.

Even moving to a more tolerant would likely mean leaving his life behind

 

[sdifox]

Not disagreeing, it's just Christianity, religion in general, has a way of being built in from a young age. It's not an easy thing to discard.

Even moving to a more tolerant would likely mean leaving his life behind

Not all Christians are assholes.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Not all Christians are assholes.

Enough are. Just like cops, not all are assholes, enough are to create skepticism.

And if I saw the hate in a liberal area like massachusetts, you can bet your butt it's much more extreme in the midwest

It's a pretty intense hatred. They hate enough to vote 4 to 1 for a guy who directly contradicts what the established belief system is.

 

[bshole]

Enough are. Just like cops, not all are assholes, enough are to create skepticism.

And if I saw the hate in a liberal area like massachusetts, you can bet your butt it's much more extreme in the midwest

It's a pretty intense hatred. They hate enough to vote 4 to 1 for a guy who directly contradicts what the established belief system is.

I used to believe that atheists were above assholery until I discovered the wonderful world of youtube atheism where atheist douchebags outnumber reasonable atheists by a factor to 2 to 1. They appear to hate each other far more than any other demographic group.

 

[sdifox]

I used to believe that atheists were above assholery until I discovered the wonderful world of youtube atheism where atheist douchebags outnumber reasonable atheists by a factor to 2 to 1. They appear to hate each other far more than any other demographic group.

You have to take into account that youtube is for the outspoken. And the haters are gonna be all over it since it allows them to spread their hate.

 

[Paratus]

Anyone else feel like if we wanted to protect our kids from sexual assaults instead of transgender bathroom bills we need to ban politicians instead?

 

[Puffnstuff]

Not disagreeing, it's just Christianity, religion in general, has a way of being built in from a young age. It's not an easy thing to discard.

Religious classical conditioning is a bear to overcome and is why church goers adopt a herd mentality. I've already had this struggle with myself and have overcome it which is why I reject almost everything I hear coming from any religious organization.

 

[zinfamous]

As I'd mentioned earlier in the wrong thread: it's like there's a golden rule where the more support a Republican gives to anti-LGBT legislation, the more likely it is they'll be caught at least doing something hypocritical, if not something offensive to virtually everyone.

With that said: my heart goes out to the guy's family, especially his wife. I can't imagine the one-two punch of finding out that your husband not only cheated on you, but did so with an underage boy. Her world just got turned upside down in a heartbeat, and it'll be up to her to pick up the pieces.

you know, if conservatives just embraced their sexuality and stopped believing that their actual selves are some sort of demonic possession that needs to be "cured," they wouldn't get into these messes.

 

[Puffnstuff]

you know, if conservatives just embraced their sexuality and stopped believing that their actual selves are some sort of demonic possession that needs to be "cured," they wouldn't get into these messes.

Religion is a facade for them to hide behind.

 

[zinfamous]

disgusting pedo

17 is not pedo.

 

[sdifox]

17 is not pedo.

While I also think that way unfortunately Oklahoma law says it is.

 

[zinfamous]

While I also think that way unfortunately Oklahoma law says it is.

does it specifically say that--(lol-I didn't read)--or is the law simply that 17 is labeled as a minor, and therefore illegal?

Point being: pedophilia is an actual recognized disorder that involves attraction to pre-pubescent individuals. It has nothing to do with law--and it usually involves attraction to 8-12 year olds, even younger.

 

[woolfe9998]

does it specifically say that--(lol-I didn't read)--or is the law simply that 17 is labeled as a minor, and therefore illegal?

Point being: pedophilia is an actual recognized disorder that involves attraction to pre-pubescent individuals. It has nothing to do with law--and it usually involves attraction to 8-12 year olds, even younger.

Yes, per DSM 5, the actual clinical definition is being exclusively or primarily attracted to those 13 years of age or younger. According to that definition, you could even find some 13 years (or younger) attractive, so long as most of those you're attracted to are 14 or older, you're not a pedophile. It's a much narrower definition than is typically used by the general public. And yes, it has nothing to do with statutory rape laws. Such laws do not criminalize "pedophilia." They criminalize having sex with someone below a certain age cutoff which is generally well above those specified in the clinical definition.

 

[sdifox]

does it specifically say that--(lol-I didn't read)--or is the law simply that 17 is labeled as a minor, and therefore illegal?

Point being: pedophilia is an actual recognized disorder that involves attraction to pre-pubescent individuals. It has nothing to do with law--and it usually involves attraction to 8-12 year olds, even younger.

Apparently prostitution law says 17 is underage.

 

[zinfamous]

Apparently prostitution law says 17 is underage.

right. But being "underage" is not the same as pedophilia. If this were the case, then nearly every highschooler would be a pedophile.

 

[JMC2000]

right. But being "underage" is not the same as pedophilia. If this were the case, then nearly every highschooler would be a pedophile.

Sadly, high schoolers caught having sex can be charged with pedophilia.

Especially if the parents of the "victim" push for it.

 

[zinfamous]

oh man, this really isn't getting across: no one is being charged with pedophilia in these situations. They are being charged with having sex with a minor.

You can only be a pedophile, with the only definition for pedophile, if you are attracted to pre-pubescent kids.

I'm not defending either, just pointing out that "pedophile" is a carelessly tossed-about phrase that is often misused for the topic at hand (and yes, I do it to. Just because. )

 

[sdifox]

right. But being "underage" is not the same as pedophilia. If this were the case, then nearly every highschooler would be a pedophile.

There has already been quite a few men labelled pedophiles for having sex with underaged youths. Since he is a legislator, he should have a taste of his own medicine.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Actually, the age of consent in OK is apparently 16. Not sure what the "underage" thing is about, unless there is a different age of consent if prostitution is involved.

Just what does the "age of consent" have to do with prostitution?

 

[WHAMPOM]

I used to believe that atheists were above assholery until I discovered the wonderful world of youtube atheism where atheist douchebags outnumber reasonable atheists by a factor to 2 to 1. They appear to hate each other far more than any other demographic group.

Look up Christians burning heretics and why so much HATE over tiny differences of doctrine.

 

[Newbian]

Just what does the "age of consent" have to do with prostitution?

In this case it seems there are two different rules.

An adult is allowed to have sex with a kid as young as 16 in this state however it's considered underage sex if it's in the case of prostitution.

 

[JMC2000]

In this case it seems there are two different rules.

An adult is allowed to have sex with a kid as young as 16 in this state however it's considered underage sex if it's in the case of prostitution.

Similar to Alabama, anyone over 18 (19 in AL) can be charged with sex abuse or statutory rape, even though the age of consent is 16.

 

[hal2kilo]

Aside from being a conservative "family values" republican, evidently Shortey was the chairman of Trump's campaign in OK.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/bu...-caught-in-a-motel-room-with-an-underage-boy/

Only the best.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Similar to Alabama, anyone over 18 (19 in AL) can be charged with sex abuse or statutory rape, even though the age of consent is 16.

He should've went to Canada to fool around. Anyway it's still against the law to travel to another country to participate in illegal activities so people who travel for sex tourism with children are still wrong no matter how you slice it.