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Yet another Democrat sucking up to a murdering dictator

ProfJohn

Lifer
Why can't the Democrats break this habit?

And what the hell was he doing in Syria in the first place?

Rep. Dennis Kucinich gave a video interview in which he said some nice stuff about Syria (while it is killing thousands of its citizens)

And what makes it even worse is his comparing US democratic traditions to what is going on in Syria. Disgusting. The guy should be run out of office for stupidity.

And where is the media? Sarah Palin screws up the story of Paul Revere and the media has an orgasm. A sitting congressman goes to Syria and says "the government is listening to the people" and it is hardly reported. Pathetic. And yet another example of the overwhelming naivete present among so many progressive liberals. "If we just talk to and engage with these people they'll change..."

http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/30/t...s-syrian-dictator-on-syrian-television-video/
Here are a few direct quotes from the video. Couldn't find a transcript so they lack the full story and the questions he was responding too, but they aren't taken out of context to make him look bad. You can watch the video at the link.
“What I learned from my meeting with President Assad is that he does care about what’s happening, that he wants to respond, that he’s thinking about the different ways that would be the best way to address the needs of the people,” {killing 1,300 of them is a great way to address their needs}

“And that’s what he’s talking about. He’s talking about the people. He’s very engaged in that kind of a discussion. And frankly, that’s a positive development.”

“There are great democratic aspirations for freedom. And it’s part of this desire for freedom which is really sweeping the region and the world. And that the government is listening to the people,”
“But you’re at the point right now where it must, from what I’ve seen, the government shows a willingness to listen, shows a desire to help the people, work with the people to bring about change.”

“There is no rushing. You have to unfold democratic traditions,”
“We’re still working on it in our own United States, after you know, more than 230 some years. So I think, though, that while one cannot be rushed into it, it’s important not to try to set back reforms that can be brought about now.”


“In the affairs of state, it’s not unusual for one day a leader to be in a negative light, and the next day, they are in the positive light,”
Found the transcript, enjoy
Congressman Kucinich: There are great democratic aspirations for freedom. This is part of this desire for freedom, which is really sweeping the region and the world. The government is listening to the people.

There has to be an agreement between the opposition and the government. When those agreements start to come together, things will change. I have no doubt that they will change. But you’re at the point right now where it must… From what I have seen, the government shows a willingness to listen, and shows a desire to help the people, and to work with the people to bring about change. That is a good sign. It’s a precondition for change. You have to have a willingness. If the willingness is there, perhaps the aspirations of the people will be realized. The fact that you can have opposition meeting in downtown Damascus, openly – whether the meeting is open or not is another matter, but they’re meeting… That’s important. That shows that people are stretching those freedom aspirations, and saying: It’s different now, we’re going to meet publicly. This is what we think. Then, in that manner, people will keep informing the government of the way they want things to go, and the government will have to respond. Again, it’s a process. We can’t make any final judgments on things, but we have to be aware that something is happening. So I came here because I think that what happens in Syria is critical, not only for this region – for every nation in the region – but it is critical to the world. If you see a nation where the people are striving for democratic change, and where the government appears to be ready to respond – that is very important.

Any time you have ferment in a nation. Anytime you have masses of people coming together, there is always the possibility that someone may have an agenda that is different than most of the opposition, and that may be an agenda that is different from the government’s. So one must be aware of the possibilities. I don’t have any information about this, but it’s something that is a cautionary thing, just to be aware of, that is always possible. One must be aware, so that when you see events unfold, you know if there’s anything… if there is any catalyst for an event that could not have been predicted because it is like a third party intervention.

Reporter: It caters to a different agenda.

Congressman Kucinich: Yes, and so we have to be aware of that, that it is possible. Do I know that it happened? No, I don’t know that. That is why you have an investigation, in Syria, that the government has supported, to find out how the violence occurred.

I think it is important for members of Congress to have an understanding of the process that is going on here – that people are seeking freedom of expression, and are seeking the realization of their democratic aspirations, but that the government is listening, that it is not dismissing it, that it is not unaware. What I learned from my meeting with President Assad is that he does care about what’s happening, that he wants to respond, that he’s thinking about the different ways that would be… the best way to address the needs of the people. And that’s what he is talking about. He’s talking about the people. He’s very engaged in that kind of a discussion. Frankly, that’s a positive development. How it plays out we can’t predict. It is going to be very important that the opposition and the government talk to each other, and then chart a course together. That is something that is up to the Syrian people. Do I think that’s possible? It’s possible, of course it’s possible, but Syria has to go down a long road right now. But it should go down that road, with encouragement.

Reporter: And not be rushed into it, I think that is very important.

Congressman Kucinich: There is no rushing. You have to unfold…

Reporter: Due to outside pressures…

Congressman Kucinich: You have to unfold democratic traditions. We’re still working on it, in our own United States, after more than some 230 years. So I think, though, that while one cannot be rushed into it, it is important not to try to set back reforms that can be brought about now.

Reporter: There is a very unfair image of President Assad in the West and in America at the moment, wouldn’t you say?

Congressman Kucinich: In the affairs of state, it is not unusual for a leader to be in a negative light one day, and the next day, they are in a positive light.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/30/t...tor-on-syrian-television-video/#ixzz1QnVuscEv
 
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The video makes me sick. Palin may be an air head, but at least she doesn't defend mass murderers.

Question: There is a very unfair image of President Assad in the West and In America at the moment, wouldn't you say?

His answer: In the affairs of state, it’s not unusual for one day a leader to be in a negative light, and the next day, they are in the positive light... (video cuts there)

Maybe he is looking for a new job?
Damascus Dennis?
 
No, I am asking why the media is quiet on Kucinich.

They aren't.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...erous-dictator/2011/06/29/AGLqPNrH_story.html

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2011/06/outrage-builds-over-kucinichs-syria-visit/39404/

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/06/28/kucinich_in_damascus/index.html

etc... etc... etc.

Why is there this constant, fact free accusation of media bias that keeps getting trotted out over and over again no matter how many times it's disproven?
 
Why can't the Democrats break this habit?

And what the hell was he doing in Syria in the first place?

Rep. Dennis Kucinich gave a video interview in which he said some nice stuff about Syria (while it is killing thousands of its citizens)

And what makes it even worse is his comparing US democratic traditions to what is going on in Syria. Disgusting. The guy should be run out of office for stupidity.

And where is the media? Sarah Palin screws up the story of Paul Revere and the media has an orgasm. A sitting congressman goes to Syria and says "the government is listening to the people" and it is hardly reported. Pathetic. And yet another example of the overwhelming naivete present among so many progressive liberals. "If we just talk to and engage with these people they'll change..."

http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/30/t...s-syrian-dictator-on-syrian-television-video/
Here are a few direct quotes from the video. Couldn't find a transcript so they lack the full story and the questions he was responding too, but they aren't taken out of context to make him look bad. You can watch the video at the link.

I thought this would be a story about a Dem saying somethihng nice about Dick Cheney
 
They aren't.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...erous-dictator/2011/06/29/AGLqPNrH_story.html

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2011/06/outrage-builds-over-kucinichs-syria-visit/39404/

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/06/28/kucinich_in_damascus/index.html

etc... etc... etc.

Why is there this constant, fact free accusation of media bias that keeps getting trotted out over and over again no matter how many times it's disproven?

Yup, every single time I have seen one of them complain that something isn't covered in the MSM I find it in one google search. Imagine that.
 
Why can't the Democrats break this habit?

And what the hell was he doing in Syria in the first place?

Rep. Dennis Kucinich gave a video interview in which he said some nice stuff about Syria (while it is killing thousands of its citizens)

And what makes it even worse is his comparing US democratic traditions to what is going on in Syria. Disgusting. The guy should be run out of office for stupidity.

And where is the media? Sarah Palin screws up the story of Paul Revere and the media has an orgasm. A sitting congressman goes to Syria and says "the government is listening to the people" and it is hardly reported. Pathetic. And yet another example of the overwhelming naivete present among so many progressive liberals. "If we just talk to and engage with these people they'll change..."

http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/30/t...s-syrian-dictator-on-syrian-television-video/
Here are a few direct quotes from the video. Couldn't find a transcript so they lack the full story and the questions he was responding too, but they aren't taken out of context to make him look bad. You can watch the video at the link.

Sarah Palin is a big celebrity because she wants to be a big celebrity. She has a reality TV show and her daughter was on Dancing with the Stars FFS. Dennis Kucinich is not a celebrity. Most people hear the name and think "Dennis who?"

Apart from your misplaced whining about the coverage, I actually agree with you about Kucinich and his remarks about Syria BTW. He's a douche. And you're also right that this is a bad habit that afflicts some liberals and they need to break it.

- wolf
 
Why can't the Democrats break this habit?

And what the hell was he doing in Syria in the first place?

Rep. Dennis Kucinich gave a video interview in which he said some nice stuff about Syria (while it is killing thousands of its citizens)

And what makes it even worse is his comparing US democratic traditions to what is going on in Syria. Disgusting. The guy should be run out of office for stupidity.

And where is the media? Sarah Palin screws up the story of Paul Revere and the media has an orgasm. A sitting congressman goes to Syria and says "the government is listening to the people" and it is hardly reported. Pathetic. And yet another example of the overwhelming naivete present among so many progressive liberals. "If we just talk to and engage with these people they'll change..."

http://dailycaller.com/2011/06/30/t...s-syrian-dictator-on-syrian-television-video/
Here are a few direct quotes from the video. Couldn't find a transcript so they lack the full story and the questions he was responding too, but they aren't taken out of context to make him look bad. You can watch the video at the link.

Your posts are awful.

FYI.
 
Yup, every single time I have seen one of them complain that something isn't covered in the MSM I find it in one google search. Imagine that.

Well you have to remember that the myth of liberal media bias is central to the conservative culture of victimhood. If they suddenly were to realize that they aren't being terribly persecuted it could have profound effects on how they view the world.
 
Well you have to remember that the myth of liberal media bias is central to the conservative culture of victimhood. If they suddenly were to realize that they aren't being terribly persecuted it could have profound effects on how they view the world.

Yup, and how else can they excuse consistently filling their heads with inFauxmation if not for the myth of the biased MSM.
 
An opinion piece.

Story does not appear on their main page, or the politics page or the world events page.

A little better. But The Atlantic is not exactly a main news source for many people.

It is on their news and commentary blog. Not on the front page, but there is a little story on their news section.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
Not on the front page, a little 10 word text on the politics page that says "Kucinich: I am working to end the violence in Syria"

CNN.com
Not on front page, not on World, not on Politics. There is a small link to a Anderson Cooper video, but I can't get the video to play. Otherwise you have to search the page in order to find the story.

http://www.nytimes.com/
Not on front page, not on world, not on politics either. In fact you can't even find the story on nytimes.com.

NPR limits it too a blog as well.

So basically if you want to read about the story you have to dig to find it.
 
Well you have to remember that the myth of liberal media bias is central to the conservative culture of victimhood. If they suddenly were to realize that they aren't being terribly persecuted it could have profound effects on how they view the world.
NY Times doesn't even have a story about it, no bias at all...
 
NY Times doesn't even have a story about it, no bias at all...

You started the thread implying that there was no MSM coverage at all, by stating "where is the media" while at the same time failing to link any articles. Now, after being confronted with links you yourself should have found, have changed tac to say it isn't enough coverage.

Out of curiosity, what about this story do you think warrants more coverage than it's getting? Kucinich just doesn't have the big of a national profile. I know he's run for POTUS but he's never been a serious candidate.
 
NY Times doesn't even have a story about it, no bias at all...

Hahahaha. Wow, you're reaaaaaalllly reaching now. It goes from 'the media is silent on this' to 'the media isn't as vocal as I would like them to be'. Of course both end with the same conclusion of 'LIBRUL BIAS OMG'. Justify your culture of victimhood all you want. Spending 30 seconds with google will give you plenty of hits from news sites.

Oh, and good to see that your standard of bias for the NYT is that they aren't carrying a story about how a foreign news agency reported something that the congressman says is inaccurate.

The contortions you're twisting yourself into in order to retain your persecution mythology are getting really sad, man.
 
Oh, one more point to put the final nail in this. One of the linked stories - the allegedly liberal Washington Post - is an editorial entitled "Rep. Kucinich takes the side of Syria’s murderous dictator," and PJ complains that it isn't on the front page...

PJ, you should have stuck to just criticizing Kucinich.
 
PJ you are putting waay to many conditions on your argument about the media. give it up dude.

As for the actual article, it seems as though its a different means to an end. "You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar" sort of thing...

but the natural spin by the oposition is going to be that Dennis K. loves murderers.... yeaahhh....
 
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