yet another chief of staff resigning

nageov3t

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Bill Daley is stepping down from his job as White House chief of staff and will be replaced by budget director Jack Lew, a senior administration official said Monday.

Daley’s tenure has been plagued by complaints about his management style and his rocky relations with Congress. He already had ceded some responsibility in recent months, but his decision to leave his post surprised White House officials....

Daley took the job a year ago and had said he planned to stay through the election this fall and then return home to Chicago. But he offered his letter of resignation to Obama last week, and the president accepted it.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz1izaRq8Cm

that seems like pretty quick turn-around. was he Obama's 3rd or 4th chief of staff? I read in a comment that he's had mode CoS's in 3 years than Clinton or Bush had in 8 (attack at will, I didn't verify it before repeating the claim)

wonder if he's resigning on his own accord or if he was privately asked to.
 

Ausm

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Hopefully he will replace him with someone who will make president Obama retain his recently found spine.
 
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Why don't you go ask Osama Bin Laden how he feels about that : D

Going after bin Laden wasn't exactly a tough decision to make. Hard to disagree that Obama hasn't show much balls so far in his presidency when it comes to tough decisions and standing strong.
 

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Going after bin Laden wasn't exactly a tough decision to make. Hard to disagree that Obama hasn't show much balls so far in his presidency when it comes to tough decisions and standing strong.

When they briefed him wasnt it a 50/50 shot?

You know if that op when down badly it would of been the end of his presidency. Sounds like balls of steel to me.
 
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When they briefed him wasnt it a 50/50 shot?

You know if that op when down badly it would of been the end of his presidency. Sounds like balls of steel to me.

I'm meaning more in the sense that it wasn't a politically risky decision at home with the electorate. I think the risk would have been greater had they opted not to act and that somehow got out.
 

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Going after bin Laden wasn't exactly a tough decision to make. Hard to disagree that Obama hasn't show much balls so far in his presidency when it comes to tough decisions and standing strong.

I was referencing the instance where obama answered somebodies question by telling them they should ask Bin Laden, or some other Al Qaeda guys who have recently been killed.
 

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I'm meaning more in the sense that it wasn't a politically risky decision at home with the electorate. I think the risk would have been greater had they opted not to act and that somehow got out.

I still think if the mission ended in dead seals we would not be looking at a 2 term president.
 
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By all accounts this is a positive change, but Lew's departure as head of the OMB will leave yet another vacancy that the Senate will have to confirm. More fun times are ahead.
 

nageov3t

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actually looked it up... if you count Pete Rouse as an official CoS, Obama's on his fourth with Lew, putting him one away from the record.

Reagan/Clinton are the only other presidents to have had 4 Chiefs of Staff with nearly every other president only going through 1-2.
 

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I'm meaning more in the sense that it wasn't a politically risky decision at home with the electorate. I think the risk would have been greater had they opted not to act and that somehow got out.

You obviously weren't around when Carter's rescue mission for the Iran hostages failed. That had a great deal to do with Carter losing the reelection-capped by Iran freeing the hostages on the day Reagan was sworn in.
 

Fern

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actually looked it up... if you count Pete Rouse as an official CoS, Obama's on his fourth with Lew, putting him one away from the record.

Reagan/Clinton are the only other presidents to have had 4 Chiefs of Staff with nearly every other president only going through 1-2.

Thanks for looking it up. I wasn't aware there had been that many CoS in the Obama admin already. I only remembered Rahm.

I wonder what the heck is causing such turn-over?

Fern
 

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Thanks for looking it up. I wasn't aware there had been that many CoS in the Obama admin already. I only remembered Rahm.

I wonder what the heck is causing such turn-over?

Fern

Which POTUS has had the most Secretaries of State, Defense, etc. etc? If you want to cherrypick a position, every POTUS in recent memory probably holds the "record" for something. A lot of political hey was made over resignations during the past administration as well, but they don't mean anything more now than they did then.
 

woolfe9999

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actually looked it up... if you count Pete Rouse as an official CoS, Obama's on his fourth with Lew, putting him one away from the record.

Reagan/Clinton are the only other presidents to have had 4 Chiefs of Staff with nearly every other president only going through 1-2.

Rouse was technically CoS, but his position was an interim one by design. There have been two actual resignations at that position.
 

yllus

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Going after bin Laden wasn't exactly a tough decision to make. Hard to disagree that Obama hasn't show much balls so far in his presidency when it comes to tough decisions and standing strong.

Politically, it was extremely risky. He's got enough comparisons to Carter as is without an Operation Eagle Claw style debacle occurring on his watch.
 

Lemon law

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Wah Wah wah, Daley was one of those its my way or the highway type guys, and when Obama didn't back him to the hilt, the crybaby resigned rather than try to build any consensus.

What do we expect from someone with a Wall St. Background?

In kindergarten, Daley's teachers probably called him someone who could not interact well with others. Maybe the same could be said of Rahm and other white house chief's staff, but at least they fought their own battles and had their own clout.

As ole give em hell Harry Trueman said, "if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen."
 

nageov3t

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Which POTUS has had the most Secretaries of State, Defense, etc. etc? If you want to cherrypick a position, every POTUS in recent memory probably holds the "record" for something. A lot of political hey was made over resignations during the past administration as well, but they don't mean anything more now than they did then.
John Tyler I think, strangely enough. :confused:
 

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nobody wants a war with iran. this wouldnt be an iraq.. iran is a hardened economically sound nation with alot of very powerful friends. doing so would toss alot of her lesser allies into the laps of other world superpowers and pit the US against foes i KNOW you dont want any part of. the joint chiefs dont want any part of it yet we keep pushing the issue. i say back off, head home, STFU regarding iran and leave them in peace. besides ahkmadenajad (or however his name is spelled) doesnt even have any power. he can say what he wants all he likes, hes simply a figurehead of a bunch of lesser govt bodies. which would STILL retain power even if the US went in their and took him out as that's the way its worked over their for generations WITHOUT FAIL
 

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nobody wants a war with iran. this wouldnt be an iraq.. iran is a hardened economically sound nation with alot of very powerful friends. doing so would toss alot of her lesser allies into the laps of other world superpowers and pit the US against foes i KNOW you dont want any part of. the joint chiefs dont want any part of it yet we keep pushing the issue. i say back off, head home, STFU regarding iran and leave them in peace. besides ahkmadenajad (or however his name is spelled) doesnt even have any power. he can say what he wants all he likes, hes simply a figurehead of a bunch of lesser govt bodies. which would STILL retain power even if the US went in their and took him out as that's the way its worked over their for generations WITHOUT FAIL

We can kick any nations butt because we have the mighty military power of our closest ally Canada behind us.
 

IonusX

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We can kick any nations butt because we have the mighty military power of our closest ally Canada behind us.

oh yes our standing army of..
218k (CIA factbook est 2010 )will be so useful :rolleyes:.. heck we dont even have proper desert combat gear or desert combat training. we debated changing this in afghanistan.. nope still wearing green plains/forest comabt gear, though we have experience garnished from playing whack-a-mole in afghanistan with the taliban
 
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oh yes our standing army of..
218k (CIA factbook est 2010 )will be so useful :rolleyes:.. heck we dont even have proper desert combat gear or desert combat training. we debated changing this in afghanistan.. nope still wearing green plains/forest comabt gear, though we have experience garnished from playing whack-a-mole in afghanistan with the taliban

Not even close to accurate. Canada has used desert camo patterns for years in Afghanistan.

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