Yet Another ACORN Fraud Thread

[MikeyLSU]

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: MikeyLSU

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: MikeyLSU

the other problem is the stupid law in Ohio that allowed these same people to register and vote at the same time. That is pure voter fraud.

Almost all of the ACORN registration fraud I've read about concerns fake registration cards being turned in by ACORN hourly workers. That's not a register-and-vote scenario.

first off, fraud is fraud.

Second of all, if there is proof of widespread voter registration fraud, I think it is safe to assume they are doing the same in Ohio which is a state that allows you to vote at the same time.

Even if they weren't, they need to be taken down because of FRAUD. Even if it is only voter registration fraud(which I doubt)

Again: 99.5% of the ACORN registrations are valid. You want to shut ACORN down (preventing them from registering those 99.5%) because 0.5% are fraudulent.

Sounds to me like there's a hidden agenda here. Couldn't possibly be that those 99.5% will vote overwhelmingly liberal, could it?

I'd say your hidden agenda is that you will overlook a "little" fraud as long as it serves your purpose. Like I said earlier, if this was 100% republican, I would want them shut down. And your percentages are made up out of thin air. It is just coming out just how widespread it is, nobody actually knows the real numbers except ACORN themselves.

Look, nobody is stopping people from registering on their own, hell I did it all by myself, want to give me a cookie? You say shutting down ACORN will prevent those people from registering and that is 100% false. It is just nobody will hold their hand and tell them who to vote for and to vote as many times as they can.

Once again, 1 fraud is too many.

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Overgloc
It's OK Cause Obama Said so.

Proof or are you just trolling?

I dunno... Obama WAS a lawyer of theirs for awhile... maybe he DID say it was okay.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Overgloc
It's OK Cause Obama Said so.

Proof or are you just trolling?

I dunno... Obama WAS a lawyer of theirs for awhile... maybe he DID say it was okay.

:roll:

What's happening here is why Oregon made pay-per-signature/pay-per-voter registration drives illegal a few years back. Dishonest and/or overzealous signature gatherers would forge signatures in order to pad their paychecks. Once the law said the gatherers couldn't get paid this way, the fraudulent activity more or less stopped.
And ironically with regards to this thread, that bit came about because of fraudulent shenanigans here on the Republican side of the aisle. The Bill Sizemore-Loren Parks-OCA connection was forging voter signatures in order to get their measures on the ballot.

So really, I'm not condoning this kind of thing in the slightest, but anyone pretending this kind of activity is limited to Acorn or one just one side of the political aisle or has been approved of by any of the candidates is just being a dishonest troll.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Overgloc
It's OK Cause Obama Said so.

Proof or are you just trolling?

I dunno... Obama WAS a lawyer of theirs for awhile... maybe he DID say it was okay.

This is a tough one...

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: MikeyLSU

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: MikeyLSU

the other problem is the stupid law in Ohio that allowed these same people to register and vote at the same time. That is pure voter fraud.

Almost all of the ACORN registration fraud I've read about concerns fake registration cards being turned in by ACORN hourly workers. That's not a register-and-vote scenario.

first off, fraud is fraud.

Second of all, if there is proof of widespread voter registration fraud, I think it is safe to assume they are doing the same in Ohio which is a state that allows you to vote at the same time.

Even if they weren't, they need to be taken down because of FRAUD. Even if it is only voter registration fraud(which I doubt)

Again: 99.5% of the ACORN registrations are valid. You want to shut ACORN down (preventing them from registering those 99.5%) because 0.5% are fraudulent.

Sounds to me like there's a hidden agenda here. Couldn't possibly be that those 99.5% will vote overwhelmingly liberal, could it?

And in Lake County, home to the long-depressed steel town of Gary, the bipartisan Elections Board has stopped processing a stack of about 5,000 applications delivered just before the October 6 registration deadline after the first 2,100 turned out to be phony.

You were saying?

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Overgloc
It's OK Cause Obama Said so.

Proof or are you just trolling?

I dunno... Obama WAS a lawyer of theirs for awhile... maybe he DID say it was okay.

:roll:

What's happening here is why Oregon made pay-per-signature/pay-per-voter registration drives illegal a few years back. Dishonest and/or overzealous signature gatherers would forge signatures in order to pad their paychecks. Once the law said the gatherers couldn't get paid this way, the fraudulent activity more or less stopped.
And ironically with regards to this thread, that bit came about because of fraudulent shenanigans here on the Republican side of the aisle. The Bill Sizemore-Loren Parks-OCA connection was forging voter signatures in order to get their measures on the ballot.

So really, I'm not condoning this kind of thing in the slightest, but anyone pretending this kind of activity is limited to Acorn or one just one side of the political aisle or has been approved of by any of the candidates is just being a dishonest troll.

Didnt we agree not to talk to each other? We dont get along very well. I was jesting about Obama... I really dont think he said it was okay.

I do disagree with the notion that this isnt an enterprise-wide issue for ACORN (since it appears to be spread acros the country).. be it intentional or unintentional. At best things are as you described... low-life losers who register everyone and their mother 72 times to get paid. This would indicate a serious lack of control by ACORN management over its employees. For this reason alone I would not allow them to register people to vote. They obviously cant do it without screwing it up.

On the other end of the spectrum, we would have ACORN rotten from top to bottom, and instructing its employees to do whatever it could to get as many registrations through - fraudulent or not - in an effort to affect the election. Obviously this is unacceptable as well, and would preclude ACORN from registering people to vote

Anywhere inbetween is also unacceptable. Therefore, I would say ACORN is an organization unfit to register people to vote.

As far as other organizations of other political persuations doing this... I havent heard about it, it hasnt made national news (that I remember), there is no proof, etc. If there is proof of it, by all means dig it out and throw it on the table. I am an equal opportunity "tosser under the bus." If my grandma was doing this, she would quickly find out what brand tires were on that bus

 

[351Cleveland]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: MikeyLSU

Originally posted by: shira

Originally posted by: MikeyLSU

the other problem is the stupid law in Ohio that allowed these same people to register and vote at the same time. That is pure voter fraud.

Almost all of the ACORN registration fraud I've read about concerns fake registration cards being turned in by ACORN hourly workers. That's not a register-and-vote scenario.

first off, fraud is fraud.

Second of all, if there is proof of widespread voter registration fraud, I think it is safe to assume they are doing the same in Ohio which is a state that allows you to vote at the same time.

Even if they weren't, they need to be taken down because of FRAUD. Even if it is only voter registration fraud(which I doubt)

Again: 99.5% of the ACORN registrations are valid. You want to shut ACORN down (preventing them from registering those 99.5%) because 0.5% are fraudulent.

Sounds to me like there's a hidden agenda here. Couldn't possibly be that those 99.5% will vote overwhelmingly liberal, could it?

And in Lake County, home to the long-depressed steel town of Gary, the bipartisan Elections Board has stopped processing a stack of about 5,000 applications delivered just before the October 6 registration deadline after the first 2,100 turned out to be phony.

You were saying?

Dont bring up the fact that there are 45,000 MORE people registered to vote in Marion County (Indianapolis) than there are eligible voters. I dont think he could handle it.

 

[GTaudiophile]

What we need is a national ID system...and a sophisticated ID at that. No ID, no vote.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
What we need is a national ID system...and a sophisticated ID at that. No ID, no vote.

'liberals' don't want ID, even a free one, to be used for polls because it would disenfranchise people. 'conservatives' don't like the national ID because they don't want the 'feds' tracking their every.

 

[351Cleveland]

I still don't see how requiring identification disenfranchises anyone. Even if we could wave a magic wand and everyone would have an accurate photo ID, you STILL wouldn't support requiring identification at the polls?

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland
I still don't see how requiring identification disenfranchises anyone. Even if we could wave a magic wand and everyone would have an accurate photo ID, you STILL wouldn't support requiring identification at the polls?

apparently some nuns living under a ro- er, in a convent were denied being able to vote in indiana in the primary because somehow they'd missed the major news that indiana's voter ID law was being upheld.

and RiW's mother doesn't have a DL.



and i didn't say it was me. i said, "'liberals.'"