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Paul hit the winning shot to beat the Wolfpack. Wake Forest officials said Paul was doused with soda among other things after he made the shot. Sources at Wake Forest said Paul was upset during the game when fans were taunting him about his grandfather, who passed away prior to his arrival at Wake Forest.
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Damn straight. Chris Paul is one of the dirtiest players in the ACC. All he does is start sh1t with people. It happens both times against Duke, one with Ewing one with Dockery
Originally posted by: BDawg
And note, it was our school who suspended him. The league didn't have to force it. That doesn't happen at too many schools.
"There's a fine line," said May. "But what people don't understand is that play just got caught. It happens all the time. There were four or five plays last night (in the Tar Heels' game against Duke) where it could have been questionable as to dirty play.
"There were four or five plays when we played State when you could have questioned Julius for being dirty. It just depends."
Tasteless taunt was low, too
By BARRY SAUNDERS, Staff Writer
'I killed your grandfather. I killed your grandfather." Say what? Are you out of your freakin' minds?
Yeah, I'm talking to you, the N.C. State University Wolfpack basketball fans who taunted a Wake Forest player with that chant during Sunday's game.
Chris Paul, a Wake Forest guard, was the object of the fans' wrath even before he low-blowed the Pack's Julius Hodge, a move that has resulted in a one-game suspension.
No doubt about it: It was a cheap shot, and Paul should have gotten the old heave-ho from the refs. He didn't, however, deserve to be so callously reminded that his grandfather was beaten to death during a robbery in 2002.
Answer me this, dawg: To whom was it so important for the Wolfpack to win that you'd try to rattle a kid that way?
I reckon it just shows the power of the crowd, because individually, none of the jock sniffers making the chant would have had the nerve. Instead, they'd have been asking Paul for his autograph.
Not all of the Pack's fans engaged in the tasteless chant, but those who didn't should have expressed disapproval of the clowns who did. Me, I'd have pimp-slapped somebody.
Dean Buchan, Wake Forest's sports information director, assured me that Paul heard the taunts from the fans and was affected by them.
"Taunting the opposing team is a part of the atmosphere of college sports," Buchan told me, "but we've never heard anything chanted quite that severe."
Lest Hodge think the insults hurled at his assailant are a sign of the home fans' affection for him, someone had better remind him of the things those same fans shout at him after he goes 4-17 from the floor or misses a key free throw.
"But dude," you say, "you don't understand how important ACC basketball is around these here parts."
Bull hockey. Nobody knows better than I how reverentially we regard ACC basketball. Who is the man who nursed a career-long grudge against Kareem Abdul-Jabbar because UCLA beat the Tar Heels in 1968's championship game?
Shaft? No, me.
And who is the man who requested, on every team he ever played, uniform No. 43 in honor of his favorite former Tar Heel center, Rusty Clark? That would be me, too. (I had too much reverence to ask for 33 or 44, worn by Charlie Scott and Larry Miller, respectively.)
Dwayne Ballen, a buddy of mine who has been a part of CBS' NCAA coverage for the past five seasons, said he doesn't think fan civility has lessened, but he thinks the rowdiest fans have become even rowdier.
"Everybody wants to be on 'SportsCenter,' even the fans," Ballen said. "ESPN has a segment where it rates the fans' fervor on game day. What do you think that's going to do? It encourages their fervor."
Fervent fans are one thing; foolish, unkind fans are another.
When I asked Buchan if anyone from NCSU had apologized for the fans' boorishness, he said, "No. I know Chris is going to offer his apologies for his part in this."
Classy move. Somebody at NCSU -- like, say, the chancellor -- should show similar class by calling Wake Forest and apologizing to that kid whose grandfather was murdered.
Want to tell Barry what you think? call him at 836-2811 or send e-mail to him at barrys@newsobserver.com.
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Classless NC State fans followed by a classless punch. Players shouldn't stoop down to fans' level.
Originally posted by: Jigga
Revenge match in the tourney?
Whatever you do, don't knock Wake out because I want them to beat Dook.
Originally posted by: Nitemare
State fans are very fickle this year, because for starters they have lost nearly every close game that they have been in and a huge part of this was terrible officiating.
Originally posted by: BDawg
And as for the officials letting Wake win, the foul totals were 26 to 17, Wake. State went to the line 22 times, Wake went 14.
Originally posted by: Nitemare
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Classless NC State fans followed by a classless punch. Players shouldn't stoop down to fans' level.
Some of the fans were moronic, but when is this new to the ACC? Lest we forget the projectiles that Maryland students threw at the Duke players parents? How bout the asshats in Detroit that threw beer, chairs and punches?
Some fans today are unapologetic assholes. I apologize to Chris Paul on behalf of the few morons in the stand, but still that does not give him the rights to nut punch someone.
State fans are very fickle this year, because for starters they have lost nearly every close game that they have been in and a huge part of this was terrible officiating.
The officials did not want WF and UNC to lose on Saturday because that would jeopardize a #1 seat in the big dance. I mean when have you ever heard of UNC having a defense, especially one that can shut down a team like Duke for a whole 3 minutes at the end of a game? I mean UNC committed just 1 foul in the last 3 minutes??? Bullsh!t
The obvious foul by Chris Paul no less on Atsur shooting a 3, which would have put the Pack up by 2-3 considering he is a 73% free throw shooter. Add the technical foul that should have been called on Paul since a ref was watching him do it. There is no way State should have lost that game without the help from the officiating crew.
Also consider Larry Rose personal vendetta against the Wolfpack in the game before WF, vs Virginia? He had 3 Wolfpack players whistled for 4 fouls with 10 remaining, largely simple handchecking, meanwhile in the WF Duke game you pretty much had to draw blood to get a foul.
Originally posted by: BDawg
I can't excuse what he did. He deserved to be suspended.
However, "Jules" is the dirtiest player in the ACC and deserved exactly what he got.
The situation in the game never would've occured if the refs would keep CP from being roughed up in every game he played in. Tell me nothing should've happened to Elton Brown when he popped CP3 in the head.
On the positive side, at least last night wasn't the last night Hodge gets to play in the RBC Centura Center.![]()
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