Yemen grants house arrest to Cole attack planner.

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Gitmo is illegal, the Iraq war is illegal, the US is acting like a bitch on PMS.

:roll:

What's the name of that bubble you live in?

Currently in Kabul, will be transporting some people to Bagram in the morning.

We all know that according to international law (which the US does cite ever so often in their favor but ignore when taking action) Gitmo and all other forms of detainment where the prisoners are not treated according to the Geneva conventions is illegal

This has been beat to death here. They are not prisoners of war. They are not in the uniform of any fighting force. Hence, not subject to Geneva Conventions.

I don't give a fuck about the politics regarding this bullshit, common sense tells me that an enemy combatant is a member of an enemy force and as such should be treated as such.

This doublespeak political bullshit has brought shame and disgust upon the brave men who are out fighting the war, i hate it and i hate people like you who support it.

I'm not unaware of the rules of engagement and we do abide by them, but this shit? Why don't we just nuke the entire fucking place and get it over with, it's not like we're ever going to get to a point where all of these countries will ever work with us.

I know what i see, i'm no great thinker or great politician, i know what i know and that is it, and what i do know is that this shit is not right.

Well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion.

Enemy combatant is not a prisoner of war. They are members of an enemy force, sure, but not any sovereign nation, hence they are not entitled to the protections of the Geneva Convention. So off to Club Gitmo they go. And IMO they can rot there till they die.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Whelp, interesting if true. The Yemeni government has been kept in place by the US for quite a long time. The short of it is we have "encouraged" them to be friendly by paying off the tribal warlords, keeping them from overthrowing the government, or at the very least keeping them from showing how powerless the officials really are. The govt. leaders have been in fear for their lives. Now if this is true and an officially sanctioned action then it's likely that some significant change has occured. It could be that the tribal leaders and the Yemeni government have allied in order to reject Western influence. Obviously I don't know the details, but it makes sense.

I'm going to have to say that there are other influences.

True, but it's the interplay of the various powers in the region that sum up to a course of action. You know that we blackmailed Yemen into participating in the "coalition of the willing" (evidently willing means blackmailed or paid off in some cases). That seems to no longer hold sway with Yemeni politics.

Thoughts?

I suck at politics, you know that. But i do have something to say about it.

We think we got it all nailed down when we got control over the Taliban forces in Afghanistan, they slipped out of our grip like an eel, it's impossible to use these kinds of measures to fight an enemy that lives among the people.

Yemen was pretty much threatened into their position and their government has paid for it, when the people do not like the government then other forces starts to take over and in their last breath the government will try to save themselves by agreeing with whatever they think the people want. With support of outside forces the government can play this game and be pretty safe.

Yes it sucks, and i have absolutely no good solution to this, i have a really bad solution for it though, it involves politics and as i said, i suck at politics.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Gitmo is illegal, the Iraq war is illegal, the US is acting like a bitch on PMS.

:roll:

What's the name of that bubble you live in?

Currently in Kabul, will be transporting some people to Bagram in the morning.

We all know that according to international law (which the US does cite ever so often in their favor but ignore when taking action) Gitmo and all other forms of detainment where the prisoners are not treated according to the Geneva conventions is illegal

This has been beat to death here. They are not prisoners of war. They are not in the uniform of any fighting force. Hence, not subject to Geneva Conventions.

I don't give a fuck about the politics regarding this bullshit, common sense tells me that an enemy combatant is a member of an enemy force and as such should be treated as such.

This doublespeak political bullshit has brought shame and disgust upon the brave men who are out fighting the war, i hate it and i hate people like you who support it.

I'm not unaware of the rules of engagement and we do abide by them, but this shit? Why don't we just nuke the entire fucking place and get it over with, it's not like we're ever going to get to a point where all of these countries will ever work with us.

I know what i see, i'm no great thinker or great politician, i know what i know and that is it, and what i do know is that this shit is not right.

Well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion.

Enemy combatant is not a prisoner of war. They are members of an enemy force, sure, but not any sovereign nation, hence they are not entitled to the protections of the Geneva Convention. So off to Club Gitmo they go. And IMO they can rot there till they die.

An enemy combatant captured is a POW, PERIOD.

You can play the politician game all you want, if you don't get that it is just wrong then there is something very wrong with you, you once told me that you have been a soldier, have you forgotten about honor?

What would be the honorable thing to do?

I have faith in me and those like me, there are a lot of people on this board who know exactly what i mean, there is honor, if you don't have it, you have never been a soldier.

You are a disgrace.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Sinsear
Enemy combatant is not a prisoner of war. They are members of an enemy force, sure, but not any sovereign nation, hence they are not entitled to the protections of the Geneva Convention. So off to Club Gitmo they go.

:thumbsup:

And IMO they can rot there till they die.

Unless they are exonerated by military tribunal.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Sinsear
Enemy combatant is not a prisoner of war. They are members of an enemy force, sure, but not any sovereign nation, hence they are not entitled to the protections of the Geneva Convention. So off to Club Gitmo they go.

:thumbsup:

And IMO they can rot there till they die.

Unless they are exonerated by military tribunal.

I'd like to see you there, you are clearly the enemy of a free society.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I'd like to see you there, you are clearly the enemy of a free society.

:roll:

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I'd like to see you there, you are clearly the enemy of a free society.

:roll:

Well, you are, you want your way and you like it when it gets that way by force, that is the very essence of a person against freedom.

Not that you will ever get that, but hey, who cares about them who will protest.

First they came for....

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Aimster

Exactly you fail at linking things together.
You fail.

Glad I could teach you something.
Now go drive around pimping your Bush sticker.

Maybe you should learn how to write a proper sentence before you go around bragging about how smart you are. I have no idea what you were just trying to say. I called you a name, and you responded with "Exactly you fail at linking things together.". So were you agreeing with me that you are a douchebag?

Palehorse said it makes him sick that this guy is sitting at home rather than in prison and I pointed out something similar.

If you have a problem with that, then stop posting? I fail to see how that is a question.

If you and your Bush lovers in this thread lack the ability to link the two together then it is not my fault you are all idiots. My Bush lovers? That doesn't even make sense.

Anyone who is asking "what do you think of the verdict" or "you must agree with the verdict" doesn't know how to read. I linked the verdict with my sickening feeling of Bush and my hate for him.

Seriously, you need to stop bragging about your supposed "education" when you write like a 5th grader. I generally don't care how people write on a messageboard, but its pretty ironic to see someone with your writing skills accuse others of being uneducated. Please let us know what college you went to so that I can make sure that neither of my children attend that school.

Anyways, I see that your BDS has consumed you, I'm not discussing anything with you until you can stop bringing Bush into every conversation.

I write the way I talk. I'm sorry you are an old fart who got the Internet when you were like 40. I don't care to write in a manner to please you.

If you can't prove what I said to be wrong then don't post.

Many Indian people come to the United States every year and they become doctors yet their English skills are not that great. You obviously do not work where you have to interact and sit behind a desk all day long not moving an inch.

America is not like it was when you were growing up.
Sucks for you.

This is what happens in P&N when you have nothing to say of value in response to another person's post:
"you are blah blah blah"
"you are so blah blah blah"

If you want, I will send you my autobiography when it comes out. You will be the first to get it.

Wow, you actually talk like that, and you even admitted it? My point is, don't go around slamming other peoples education when you can't even write properly, it makes you look like a fool. And what exactly am I supposed to be proving wrong?

You said that it makes you sick that the President of the US is not in jail, I have no doubt that you feel that way. After you attacked me, claiming that I am uneducated, I called you a douchebag, your response was "Exactly". I'm not saying that you are wrong there either. And then, you asked me this question, "If you have a problem with that, then stop posting?". Well, I can't answer that, because I don't even understand the question.

Oh, I'm 25 by the way, and I don't want you to "write in a manner to please me", I'd just like to be able to understand what you are saying.

Edit - If English is not your first language, then thats fine. If you don't want people to give you shit about your HORRIBLE writing/speaking skills, don't go around accusing everyone that you disagree with of being uneducated.

You say my ability to write proper English is lacking.

I say your ability to read English is lacking.

That is how this entire thing started. You linked my first post with supporting terrorists. Which is idiotic.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

LOL, English, JD50 go suck on a i love you. 😀

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: palehorse74
sickening... but I'm not surprised.

kind of like how it is sickening that the mastermind behind the disaster in Iraq is living free and enjoying life in his white house in D.C

Nice try asswipe. I award you zero points and may many bombs fall on Iran.


Back on topic, I would think this would make it a bit easier to swoop in and extract him; then we can put his ass in Gitmo, for an "undetermined" length of time.

I don't see how this thread has anything to do with Iran.

Since you want to attack my ethnicity why don't you try it in my face little redneck hillbilly boy? That's OK... I'll let them shame of knowing an "Iranian" has accomplished far more in this country than a man who thinks his ethnicity is far superior than mine.

Go sit in the corner and weep.

Aimster, let's get back on topic...

Do you believe that house arrest is sufficient punishment for someone who is responsible for the deaths of 17 innocent sailors, and the wounding of 39 others?

What is a suitable punishment for a guy who has killed, because he's brain dead, thousands and thousands of innocent Iraqis and thousands more innocent American soldiers?

Another one. WTF is with the diversions here? The thread is about the Cole bomber/plotter, and his release to house arrest, not about Bush.

No, my post is not about Bush, but what is a suitable punishment for the Cole bomber. I am trying to establish some president from other criminal cases and was replying to a direct inquire you took no issue with. Try to keep up.

I have no idea what that means. Maybe you can rephrase that for us simpletons? Or maybe you meant precedent instead of president? Or inquiry instead of inquire? I dunno; I am trying to keep up but I am very confused right now.

Yes, indeed I did. I was in a hurry to get out the door and can't spell even on a good day. Good thinking there, anyway.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Well, you are, you want your way and you like it when it gets that way by force, that is the very essence of a person against freedom.

Your crystal ball is broken.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
LOL, English, JD50 go suck on a i love you. 😀

Haha, no thanks, I don't smoke. 😛

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Well, you are, you want your way and you like it when it gets that way by force, that is the very essence of a person against freedom.

Your crystal ball is broken.

Ok, i'll rephrase it for you, you cum hard when it gets that way by force.

Better?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
LOL, English, JD50 go suck on a i love you. 😀

Haha, no thanks, I don't smoke. 😛

😉

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Ok, i'll rephrase it for you, you cum hard when it gets that way by force.

Better?

No.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Ok, i'll rephrase it for you, you cum hard when it gets that way by force.

Better?

No.

No? Well, i don't know what more it makes you do, jump up and down and get white stripes across your pants when you cum hard when it gets that way by force?

It's quite obvious that you love forceful abductions of legal citisens that have been reported by their competitors since you support Gitmo, it's never anything but forceful so what is it you like about it?

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Ok, i'll rephrase it for you, you cum hard when it gets that way by force.

Better?

No.

Perhaps you can offer you're own take on why you're an idiot. To relish in the notion that people are imprisoned without trial makes you little more than a sack of something unpleasant, in my opinion. You are antithetical to everything American.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Perhaps you can offer you're own take on why you're an idiot.

The irony of the above statement is overwhelming :laugh:

To relish in the notion that people are imprisoned without trial makes you little more than a sack of something unpleasant, in my opinion. You are antithetical to everything American.

First, quit putting words in my mouth. :|

Second, by questioning my patriotism, you are every bit as disgusting as those who seek to destroy this great country. You're part of the problem, not the solution. In fact, you're a total disgrace. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Perhaps you can offer you're own take on why you're an idiot.

The irony of the above statement is overwhelming :laugh:

To relish in the notion that people are imprisoned without trial makes you little more than a sack of something unpleasant, in my opinion. You are antithetical to everything American.

First, quit putting words in my mouth. :|

Second, by questioning my patriotism, you are every bit as disgusting as those who seek to destroy this great country. You're part of the problem, not the solution. In fact, you're a total disgrace. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Sinsear
Back on topic, I would think this would make it a bit easier to swoop in and extract him; then we can put his ass in Gitmo, for an "undetermined" length of time.

:thumbsup:

To relish in the notion that people are imprisoned without trial makes you little more than a sack of something unpleasant, in my opinion. You are antithetical to everything American.

What you call this country is what makes it a pile of sh!t, a country with your lack of morals and ethical values, a country full of vermin who relish war and the thought of torture and locking people up in jail. You are the antithesis of everything that makes this country really great and everything it was founded to represent You are a blood sucking parasite and form of vermin and if the founding fathers could get a look at you they'd throw up in your face. You aren't worth the dirt in an American sewer.

You are a God Damned fucking coward who needs to kill life everywhere so your worthless ass can feel safe in bed at night. You don't care what crime is committed so long as you are never confronted by what you fear. I don't question your patriotism. You don't look for patriotism in a robo-worm.

But I do like the macros you stole from Harvey.

 

[bctbct]

Please tell me Bush has enough balls to to assasinate this guy.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Perhaps you can offer you're own take on why you're an idiot.

The irony of the above statement is overwhelming :laugh:

To relish in the notion that people are imprisoned without trial makes you little more than a sack of something unpleasant, in my opinion. You are antithetical to everything American.

First, quit putting words in my mouth. :|

Second, by questioning my patriotism, you are every bit as disgusting as those who seek to destroy this great country. You're part of the problem, not the solution. In fact, you're a total disgrace. :thumbsdown: :| :thumbsdown:

Patriotism? Patriot? YOU? LMAO.

Patriotism is about your country, the only real threat to the US right now are the Talibans in Pakistan, not Iran, not Iraq, not SA, not fucking Yemen, where are YOU in this, have you fought for one day for what you believe is the right thing?

You're a wimp, a pathetic little loser, a sorry arsed excuse of a man, that is all you are.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: bctbct
Please tell me Bush has enough balls to to assasinate this guy.

Since when does Bush have balls to do anything?

Pakistan harbours Bin Ladin and most of his followers and what has he done there except shut up and hope people forget about it? You surely remember that he said it was the No1 priority, right?

I've seen rocks with more balls than that idiot.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
You are a God Damned fucking coward who needs to kill life everywhere so your worthless ass can feel safe in bed at night.

And you, sir, are a fucking disgrace. You seek to demean and attack anyone who doesn't share your twisted, warped view of the world. And your inane ramblings often leave me wondering if you aren't the inhabitant of a mental facility.

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
You're a wimp, a pathetic little loser, a sorry arsed excuse of a man, that is all you are.

It takes little to post such nonsense on a message board. Perhaps you'd like to meet in person one day, I'd be happy to introduce you to my world.

 

[StageLeft]

Behind a big attack then escapes from jail and now back to house arrest. Ha!

I would say the US should go in and grab him and stick him in jail here until he rots.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Oh, please. The Geneva Convention does not apply to those at Gitmo. They're not uniformed soldier.

The treatment they receive in Gitmo is actually better than US criminals receive in most US prisons.

Gitmo is fvcking Club Med compared to Attica, Rikers Island, or Leavenworth.

And even though you are technically correct, as they do not fall under the jurisdiction of the Geneva Conventions, for the most part, we STILL treat them as though they do.

Don't believe everything you read about what supposedly goes on down there. That place is a cake walk for the scumbags we stick in there!