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[tatteredpotato]

IMHO, the main problem is that of price, state of the art Android phones are no cheaper than an iPhone, when the iPhone rolls out to other carriers, the only thing they can do is attempt to compete on price, and the bulk of a phone's price are not in the purchase price, but in the cost of the contract over it's life. The carriers will be unwilling to cut contract prices for Android OS'd phones to compete with the iPhone.

I don't understand it, but many people put a lot of weight on the handset price (even though it's a small portion of the TCO). I guess we'll just have to see how this one plays out though because at this point it's all speculation.

 

[dwell]

Replaceable battery

Removable storage

Doesn't require itunes to perform basic functions such as software updates

Makes calls

Has a Google Voice app

None of these things are in the commercials.

 

[rudeguy]

None of these things are in the commercials.

what about physical keyboard and free Navigation?

 

[tatteredpotato]

None of these things are in the commercials.

The thing is with gadgets and marketing, features don't matter. The original iPhone was a success and it didn't have some of the features my RAZR had (3G, MMS). iPhones sell because Apple makes them look cool. That's what VZW goes for with Droid commercials.

 

[dwell]

what about physical keyboard and free Navigation?

That's in there. At least the first one, I've never seen the second. Thing is they mention stuff but don't do a good job of explaining or demoing it. The iPhone Facetime ad everyone complains about, is at least explicit. The Droid commercials is just some Sci-Fi sounding guy rattling off a bunch of features. Not very effective advertising, IMO.

 

[Pliablemoose]

I don't understand it, but many people put a lot of weight on the handset price (even though it's a small portion of the TCO). I guess we'll just have to see how this one plays out though because at this point it's all speculation.

The contract price was a big part of what killed the Kin

Interesting times for sure

 

[rudeguy]

That's in there. At least the first one, I've never seen the second. Thing is they mention stuff but don't do a good job of explaining or demoing it. The iPhone Facetime ad everyone complains about, is at least explicit. The Droid commercials is just some Sci-Fi sounding guy rattling off a bunch of features. Not very effective advertising, IMO.

it must be doing a decent job with Android sales being up so much....

 

[tatteredpotato]

Well I think obviously either Google or Apple will go out of business if the iPhone launches a CDMA variant

 

[dwell]

it must be doing a decent job with Android sales being up so much....

That's just because manufactures are getting free licenses and in some cases, paid to carry Android. IMO, it has little to do with the OS itself. Most people don't even know what Android is.

 

[Deeko]

I'm very amused by a few things with situation.

A) That the reports keep popping up
B) That in the reports, the writers sound so sure of it, and use phrases like "done deal"
C) That people get still get so worked up over it
D) That people assume Verizon wouldn't want the iPhone

These rumors are as worthless as they've ever been, they are not worth the bandwidth it takes to send the articles nor the time everyone spends debating them.

If/when there is a Verizon iPhone, we will get an official announcement from either Verizon or Apple. Until that happens, these articles are 100% worthless.

 

[Deeko]

Filed under: Believe it when I see it.

Exactly.

 

[rudeguy]

That's just because manufactures are getting free licenses and in some cases, paid to carry Android. IMO, it has little to do with the OS itself. Most people don't even know what Android is.

You are speculating a ton with that statement. Stick to proven facts my friend.

Either way...the advertising IS working.

 

[Deeko]

edit: nevermind. I'm not going to debate Android's mindshare in this thread. It has nothing to do with the topic.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Well I think obviously either Google or Apple will go out of business if the iPhone launches a CDMA variant

LOL, I do think Android OS'd phone sales will level off a bit

What I'd love to see, and may come about as a result of the same OS being on so many phones, is for the carriers to cut the data plan prices.

 

[rudeguy]

LOL, I do think Android OS'd phone sales will level off a bit

What I'd love to see, and may come about as a result of the same OS being on so many phones, is for the carriers to cut the data plan prices.

I want a data only option. Let me worry about texting and voice.

 

[tatteredpotato]

LOL, I do think Android OS'd phone sales will level off a bit

What I'd love to see, and may come about as a result of the same OS being on so many phones, is for the carriers to cut the data plan prices.

886% growth isn't what I would call "sustainable" anyways.

Also keep in mind that if the iPhone does drop in or around January on other carriers, that's right when Windows Phone is supposed to be launching, so then we'll have 3 platforms vying for a piece of the pie and they all have a massive corporation backing them.

 

[herkulease]

isn't windows mobile so to launch in november?

 

[Deeko]

isn't windows mobile so to launch in november?

"Holiday 2010", I've heard rumors putting it sometime in October-November. Considering its getting to be mid-August, you'd hope we'd get a firmer launch date soon.

 

[hanoverphist]

isn't windows mobile so to launch in november?

from what ive read it is supposed to drop in october. im betting we see iphones on vzw after january. i do have reason to believe this is true, despite the fact im not willing to say why in a public venue.:hmm:

 

[Pliablemoose]

from what ive read it is supposed to drop in october. im betting we see iphones on vzw after january. i do have reason to believe this is true, despite the fact im not willing to say why in a public venue.:hmm:

We have ways of making you talk...

estalkers, dig up some dirt on hanoverphist ASAP

 

[hanoverphist]

We have ways of making you talk...

estalkers, dig up some dirt on hanoverphist ASAP

:awe::sneaky:

 

[rudeguy]

We have ways of making you talk...

estalkers, dig up some dirt on hanoverphist ASAP

he plays in a band:
http://thetoneking.com/wp/gear-give-away/apr10-line6/


pretty boring twitter:
http://twitter.com/hanoverphist

Also found a couple of pr0n sites that he is active in. Xhamster? Really????

 

[hanoverphist]

he plays in a band:
http://thetoneking.com/wp/gear-give-away/apr10-line6/


pretty boring twitter:
http://twitter.com/hanoverphist

Also found a couple of pr0n sites that he is active in. Xhamster? Really????

HAHA i never looked at the pr0n aspect of the name... and the band guy is not me, this name is from an old animated movie. from all the years of using the name, only one person has recognized where it is from, and that person was on this forum.

 

[Fingolfin269]

They won't go exclusively to Verizon.

I just got through reading this: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38614741/ns/business-motley_fool/

And I think the author nailed it, and as I said, I'd bet money, Android's massive move in the US is prompting the move to Verizon. Of course, Apple could be faking us out and will release a CDMA phone in countries other than the US.

The Japanese adoption rate listed in that article seems quite high to me (~75%). I've been in the Tokyo area a few times over the past year and don't remember seeing many Apple products in use on the trains at all. I'll definitely pay more attention when I'm back over there in a couple of months.

 

[Pliablemoose]

HAHA i never looked at the pr0n aspect of the name... and the band guy is not me, this name is from an old animated movie. from all the years of using the name, only one person has recognized where it is from, and that person was on this forum.

Browsing your posts, we need to get you laid STAT dude...

According to something I just read, you need to find a black female that smokes, doesn't go to church or is Jewish, is a fan of Jazz, and her parents didn't read to her.

(I guess she needs to be a WM fan as well)