YAT(icket)T: Got pulled over for going 86 in a 65. *UPDATED AGAIN*)I BEAT THE TICKET......,almost*

[bigredguy]

Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
I'd say 75 is about the average fast lane speed, with a few people that drive faster (me).

Anyways, why do people alway claim (lie) that they weren't going that fast. You sped, you got caught. Sucks yes, but you took the risk (as do I). Pay up. Fine you were going 80mph then... still speeding. Whats the difference?

Well, it is my belief that speeding tickets are simply a profit generator for the government, and as such i don't feel like just freely bending over and letting take what they want. I would rather put up a fight with the same result then just take it.

 

[CrazyDe1]

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: CrazyDe1

Originally posted by: Viperoni
Bah, I got nailed for 87 in a 65 on the NY state thruway... and I don't live in the damm country 🙁

My 95 in a 65 ticket was 60 bucks and 2 points while my 89 in a 55 ticket was 220 bucks and 4 points. I got the 220 dollar ticket before my 60 dollar one which means the 89 in a 55 was on my record when I went to court for hte 95 in a 65. The difference between Boulder court and Denver court is in Boulder they have 5 college girl interns they send you to and you basically get to talk to them and convince them to give you the lowest sentence whereas Denver's system is all automated and they tell you to screw yourself...

hot college interns? Maybe i need to got to boulder and put the pedal to the metal. 😉

Yeah, 3 out of 5 were pretty attractive and the spanish translator chick was pretty hot. The conversation with the girl went like this: so you were going 95 in a 65. I said something like yeah, there was no one on the road at 3AM so who am I going to kill especially since I have to drive 40 minutes to ge thome. She then said something like yeah, I hear ya I have to drive 40 minutes to school. Then she's like how does 4 points and 60 bucks sound? I was like well, as you can see I only have 6 points left so can you do anything more than that? So she's like how does 2 points and a turn signal violation sound? She then says alright I'll write it down and see if it goes through. The judge has final say though and it might get rejected. So I thanked her and the judge barely looked at it and I got a 2 point ticket for 95 in a 65.

I think what helped was I said something when I first got there like so if you get a ticket do you get to decide your own punishment. She got a good laugh out of that one..

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: rectifire
FYI:

Also, pacing (clocking you with his speedometer), is the most bulletproof way for an officer to cite you for speeding. Radar has many loopholes and uncertainties........pacing does not.

However, you might get lucky and not have the officer show up.....in which case you win by default. Not likely, but worth a shot if beating this ticket is worth the time you will lose trying this.

Actually, its my understanding that police/CHP aren't suppose to use radar on the freeways in most of LA. Pacing is the only way to verify speed unless you're going some ridiculous speed. I actually had a CHP unit pull next to me once while doing about 80 in the fast lane (10 east near Robertson). I caught him in the mirror and just let off the gas. He dropped back and ended up pulling over the guy behind me (still don't know why). Anyway, you can still contest pacing; accuracy of the speedo, etc.

I also heard that what's happening now is that when officers are called to court they will usually group them together. For example, if Officer Smith has 10 tickets that are being contested, the trials will all be scheduled for the same day so Smith can show up and take care of all of them, making better use of his time.

Anyway, YMMV on this one.

http://www.ticketassassin.com

 

[Viperoni]

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: Viperoni
Bah, I got nailed for 87 in a 65 on the NY state thruway... and I don't live in the damm country 🙁

He's CANADIAN, LYNCH HIM!

Sorry, but misery loves company. So what happens if you don't pay? You can't come back or do the send the fine to Canadian collection agencies?

The ticket was $185... back in the $CAD wasn't worth as much; cost me close to $300cad. A lot for a 17 y/o w/o an official job 😉

They probably would come after, and NY and Ontario's insurance/police companies are linked, so the ticket went again my record. Apparently a lot of border states and a path down to Florida insurance companies are linked as well. Cali too IIRC.

 

[bigredguy]

Originally posted by: NutBucket

Originally posted by: rectifire
FYI:

Also, pacing (clocking you with his speedometer), is the most bulletproof way for an officer to cite you for speeding. Radar has many loopholes and uncertainties........pacing does not.

However, you might get lucky and not have the officer show up.....in which case you win by default. Not likely, but worth a shot if beating this ticket is worth the time you will lose trying this.

Actually, its my understanding that police/CHP aren't suppose to use radar on the freeways in most of LA. Pacing is the only way to verify speed unless you're going some ridiculous speed. I actually had a CHP unit pull next to me once while doing about 80 in the fast lane (10 east near Robertson). I caught him in the mirror and just let off the gas. He dropped back and ended up pulling over the guy behind me (still don't know why). Anyway, you can still contest pacing; accuracy of the speedo, etc.

I also heard that what's happening now is that when officers are called to court they will usually group them together. For example, if Officer Smith has 10 tickets that are being contested, the trials will all be scheduled for the same day so Smith can show up and take care of all of them, making better use of his time.

Anyway, YMMV on this one.

http://www.ticketassassin.com

I figure the worst that can happen is that i pay the full fee and attend traffic school. I won't lose any money from missing work, so i don't think i have a whole lot to lose, and a whole lot to gain. And for the court date, its just 45 days from the ticket i believe. The worst that happens is i waste everybody's time and look like a jacka$$. Oh well, we shall see.

 

[BurnItDwn]

86 in a 65 ... Over here you would get run down driving so slow in the left lane, that is, unless it was rush hour or something ... then you would be driving 3 or 4 mph.

 

[rh71]

What's the fine ? Most of the time fighting it is hardly worth the time/money/aggravation. You did the crime, just do the fine... I know I would/have.

 

[bigredguy]

Originally posted by: rh71
What's the fine ? Most of the time fighting it is hardly worth the time/money/aggravation. You did the crime, just do the fine... I know I would/have.

I won't know what the fine is until they mail me the courtesy notice, which they might not, then i have to go to the court and see what it is.

And like i said earlier,

Well, it is my belief that speeding tickets are simply a profit generator for the government, and as such i don't feel like just freely bending over and letting take what they want. I would rather put up a fight with the same result then just take it.

 

[paulney]

Originally posted by: bigredguy
In SoCal, on my way to work. I was doing the speed of traffic and changed lanes to go from I-805 south to I-15 south. CHP came right up behind me and pulled me over. Sucks, oh well.

I just don't think i was doing 86, my car doesn't like above 80 and i usually, just instinctively drive less than that. I wasn't running late, so there was no reason to speed.

I think i am going to contest and select trial by written declaration. Worse comes to worse i go to traffic school. I am pretty sure he just used his speedometer to guage my speed, any ideas on valid points to contest? I was thinking of asking to see when was the last time the speedometer in the car he was driving was calibrated. Do you think that reasonable doubt really includes speeding tickets?

Oh well, lemme know what you think.

Oh and for those of you who think i was reckless and should rot in hell, try driving in SoCal for a year or two, then flame me.

You could've killed a hundred little kids on that bus!!!! There's no excuse for you!!!

Oh, wait. Wrong thread!

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

SLOW the F down! It's speeders like you that cause MY taxes to rise! Driving is a privilege. You probably smoke too

 

[bigredguy]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
SLOW the F down! It's speeders like you that cause MY taxes to rise! Driving is a privelege. You probably smoke too

you can't be serious.

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
SLOW the F down! It's speeders like you that cause MY taxes to rise! Driving is a privelege. You probably smoke too

you can't be serious.

I'm not just serious... I'm DEAD serious. DEAD like the op will be if he continues to speed. DEAD like he'll be because I have to pay more taxes!

 

[bigredguy]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
SLOW the F down! It's speeders like you that cause MY taxes to rise! Driving is a privelege. You probably smoke too

you can't be serious.

I'm not just serious... I'm DEAD serious. DEAD like the op will be if he continues to speed. DEAD like he'll be because I have to pay more taxes!

I can't figure out if you are over-medicated or under-medicated.

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
SLOW the F down! It's speeders like you that cause MY taxes to rise! Driving is a privelege. You probably smoke too

you can't be serious.

I'm not just serious... I'm DEAD serious. DEAD like the op will be if he continues to speed. DEAD like he'll be because I have to pay more taxes!

I can't figure out if you are over-medicated or under-medicated.

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
SLOW the F down! It's speeders like you that cause MY taxes to rise! Driving is a privelege. You probably smoke too

you can't be serious.

I'm not just serious... I'm DEAD serious. DEAD like the op will be if he continues to speed. DEAD like he'll be because I have to pay more taxes!

kind of like how type A personalities like you get heart attacks more often and jack up my taxes and medical insurance. 😀

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
SLOW the F down! It's speeders like you that cause MY taxes to rise! Driving is a privelege. You probably smoke too

you can't be serious.

I'm not just serious... I'm DEAD serious. DEAD like the op will be if he continues to speed. DEAD like he'll be because I have to pay more taxes!

kind of like how type A personalities like you get heart attacks more often and jack up my taxes and medical insurance. 😀

Last I checked, 15-year olds didn't get heart-attacks!. Damn smokers...

 

[bigredguy]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
SLOW the F down! It's speeders like you that cause MY taxes to rise! Driving is a privelege. You probably smoke too

you can't be serious.

I'm not just serious... I'm DEAD serious. DEAD like the op will be if he continues to speed. DEAD like he'll be because I have to pay more taxes!

kind of like how type A personalities like you get heart attacks more often and jack up my taxes and medical insurance. 😀

Last I checked, 15-year olds didn't get heart-attacks!. Damn smokers...

How is some kid gonna tell me how to drive? Come back to this thread when you get license and/or a grasp of reality.

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
SLOW the F down! It's speeders like you that cause MY taxes to rise! Driving is a privelege. You probably smoke too

you can't be serious.

I'm not just serious... I'm DEAD serious. DEAD like the op will be if he continues to speed. DEAD like he'll be because I have to pay more taxes!

kind of like how type A personalities like you get heart attacks more often and jack up my taxes and medical insurance. 😀

Last I checked, 15-year olds didn't get heart-attacks!. Damn smokers...

How is some kid gonna tell me how to drive? Come back to this thread when you get license and/or a grasp of reality.

Umm... I've been driving for a long time and I'm a great driver. Obviously better than you because I've never been pulled over for speeding. Unlike you, I have a future... a future without speeding, smoking, and an early death.

 

[bigredguy]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
SLOW the F down! It's speeders like you that cause MY taxes to rise! Driving is a privelege. You probably smoke too

you can't be serious.

I'm not just serious... I'm DEAD serious. DEAD like the op will be if he continues to speed. DEAD like he'll be because I have to pay more taxes!

kind of like how type A personalities like you get heart attacks more often and jack up my taxes and medical insurance. 😀

Last I checked, 15-year olds didn't get heart-attacks!. Damn smokers...

How is some kid gonna tell me how to drive? Come back to this thread when you get license and/or a grasp of reality.

Umm... I've been driving for a long time and I'm a great driver. Obviously better than you because I've never been pulled over for speeding. Unlike you, I have a future... a future without speeding, smoking, and an early death.

Um driving without a license is worse then speeding. Since when do you pay taxes? And are you threatening my life? And who said i smoke? Wow, kid you are seriously messed up. Prosac is your friend, you should do what he says, mmmkay. Now go play with your G.I. Joes, the grown-ups are trying to hold a civil conversation.

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
SLOW the F down! It's speeders like you that cause MY taxes to rise! Driving is a privelege. You probably smoke too

you can't be serious.

I'm not just serious... I'm DEAD serious. DEAD like the op will be if he continues to speed. DEAD like he'll be because I have to pay more taxes!

kind of like how type A personalities like you get heart attacks more often and jack up my taxes and medical insurance. 😀

Last I checked, 15-year olds didn't get heart-attacks!. Damn smokers...

you're 15 and you're bitching about people making your taxes rise? How much tax do you pay in a month? Just the sales tax on your hand lotion huh?

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

You probably think you're a big man telling off a little kid with all those witty remarks. But think again... you've just been owned! *yawn* Off to bed for me!

 

[bigredguy]

OS,

I read,

WHAT DOESN'T KILL ME ONLY MAKES ME A BIGGER A$$HOLE

(edited for the kiddies like PowerMac4Ever)
as "WHAT DOESN'T KILL ME ONLY MAKE MY A$$HOLE BIGGER"

Gave me a good chuckle.

 

[bigredguy]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
You probably think you're a big man telling off a little kid with all those witty remarks. But think again... you've just been owned! *yawn* Off to bed for me!

I'm not sure how i was "owned" and its good to hear your off to bed, it must be hours past your bedtime.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
SLOW the F down! It's speeders like you that cause MY taxes to rise! Driving is a privelege. You probably smoke too

you can't be serious.

I'm not just serious... I'm DEAD serious. DEAD like the op will be if he continues to speed. DEAD like he'll be because I have to pay more taxes!

You do realize statistically less accidents happen at 10mph over the limit than at it.....also driving slower than the limit is way more dangerous and there are tons of people doing that.

The main problems I'd say on the roadways today are people not yielding and staying as far to the right as they can with traffic flow, people failing to stop for red lights, and lately people making left turns from right lanes and right turns from left ones (was this in a movie?).....

86 in a 65 is not truly a 'threat' to me. If a road is posted 65mph it's an expressway or similar. You aren't dealing with children, pedestrians, etc. Now I am not saying there is not a need to regard the limits, but in this case that's an over reaction.

I think it's way more dangerous all these soccer moms blowing through a 15mph neighborhood at about 25-30mph while on the phone.

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[dafatha00]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: OS

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: bigredguy

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
SLOW the F down! It's speeders like you that cause MY taxes to rise! Driving is a privelege. You probably smoke too

you can't be serious.

I'm not just serious... I'm DEAD serious. DEAD like the op will be if he continues to speed. DEAD like he'll be because I have to pay more taxes!

kind of like how type A personalities like you get heart attacks more often and jack up my taxes and medical insurance. 😀

Last I checked, 15-year olds didn't get heart-attacks!. Damn smokers...

How is some kid gonna tell me how to drive? Come back to this thread when you get license and/or a grasp of reality.

Umm... I've been driving for a long time and I'm a great driver. Obviously better than you because I've never been pulled over for speeding. Unlike you, I have a future... a future without speeding, smoking, and an early death.

Link

As a street racer, I'd have to say, "don't do the crime if you can't do the time."

You're claiming that you're a 15 year old street racer who's been driving a long time that never speeds? Bwahahahahahahah

You probably think you're a big man telling off a little kid with all those witty remarks. But think again... you've just been owned! *yawn* Off to bed for me!

Actually I think you pretty much owned yourself