YAObesityT: Why Do People Keep Saying Bad Food Is Cheaper?

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: skace
When people talk about bad food being cheaper, they are usually talking about: hot dogs, store brand macaroni and cheese, ramen and soda prices. If your family was poor and you, as a kid, grew up eating 90% of your meals as mac and cheese, you know exactly what an incredibly unhealthy diet is.

As for ramen, I can buy noodles for much cheaper than ramen (per pound). Real noodles take longer to prepare. Of course, that doesn't mean anything - they both have approximately the same nutritional content (noodles with nothing is not a good way to eat).

I can't get chicken breasts for less than $3/pound where I live (southern California). Maybe if I drove a town over?

 

[HammerCurl]

Originally posted by: torpid
Where are you folks getting cheap junk food? It's not that cheap as far as I can tell. A celery bunch is definitely cheaper than a bag of potato chips at my grocery store.

They sell some cheap candy at dollar general and wal-mart. Even the name brand stuff, 1lb of kit kat for a dollar as the last I saw. But its pretty hard to get direct comparisons with food. How about cooking oils -the stuff with hydrogenated oils lasts long and add trans fat verus an astronomical difference in cost for olive oil.

Also, drumsticks on sale are generally cheaper than $2.00 boneless skinless chicken breast.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Many times when the subject of obesity comes up, someone will mention that poor people have a greater tendency to be obese due to the "fact" that bad food is cheaper than good food. Only in some cases would I agree that good food is more expensive than bad food, and if one does a cost/benefit analysis, it really isn't more expensive at all.

Wonder Bread is much cheaper than the sixteen whole grain variety of bread that I buy, but I can eat multiple sandwiches on Wonder Bread and never feel full. When I eat a sandwich on good bread, my stomach knows it has been fed. The good bread counts as part of a meal, whereas crappy bread is little more than two sheets of spongy cardboard to keep the contents of the sandwich from getting all over your fingers.

That second paragraph contradicts the whole reason you wrote this article. You can eat SEVERAL SANDWICHES with the shittier bread (which has about the same caloric content) without feeling full.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: MrChad
I'm not sure I understand your point.

If I have $20 to spend at the grocery store, I can get more calories for my dollar by buying "junk" food than buying healthier options such as fruits and vegetables. There are many reasons for this (crop subsidies, cost of production / distribution, etc), but those are the facts.

What junk food are you using for comparison, mac and cheese and ramen noodles? I bet I could eat healthier than that for cheaper just by buying some bulk grains a couple of veggies.

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: MrChad
I'm not sure I understand your point.

If I have $20 to spend at the grocery store, I can get more calories for my dollar by buying "junk" food than buying healthier options such as fruits and vegetables. There are many reasons for this (crop subsidies, cost of production / distribution, etc), but those are the facts.

What junk food are you using for comparison, mac and cheese and ramen noodles? I bet I could eat healthier than that for cheaper just by buying some bulk grains a couple of veggies.

Did you read the link I posted?

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
ok thats great but your obviously missing something.......boneless chicken isn't a meal.

No, but it can be turned into one, thus the mention in my original post about needing the kitchen infrastructure. Macaroni and cheese out of a box does not constitute a meal by itself, either. (See a few posts up. )

 

[RagingBITCH]

I agree with the OP to an extent...I bring my lunch on a daily basis and money and eat healthier. (Not to mention that due to working out, I have pretty tight dietary restrictions)

It's hard beating a quick and cheap burger off the value menu when it's late at night and you're hungry though. To make the equivalent means spending time, which in turn is money to an extent. Cheap food is bad for you, and it's also super convenient.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Many times when the subject of obesity comes up, someone will mention that poor people have a greater tendency to be obese due to the "fact" that bad food is cheaper than good food. Only in some cases would I agree that good food is more expensive than bad food, and if one does a cost/benefit analysis, it really isn't more expensive at all.

Wonder Bread is much cheaper than the sixteen whole grain variety of bread that I buy, but I can eat multiple sandwiches on Wonder Bread and never feel full. When I eat a sandwich on good bread, my stomach knows it has been fed. The good bread counts as part of a meal, whereas crappy bread is little more than two sheets of spongy cardboard to keep the contents of the sandwich from getting all over your fingers.

That second paragraph contradicts the whole reason you wrote this article. You can eat SEVERAL SANDWICHES with the shittier bread (which has about the same caloric content) without feeling full.

How does it contradict it? When I eat, I want to feel full when I am done. Crappy food doesn't fill me up.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: bignateyk
Because fat people are lazy, and won't cook for themselves. Once you eliminate cooking for yourself, junk food is a pretty cheap alternative.

Plus they like to use any excuse possible to justify their obesity.

people who eat fast food a lot, will typically cook unhealthy food when they do cook so what does it matter? I own a deep fryer and have pretty much figured out how to deep fry everything from potatoes to hot pockets to burritos (chimmichanga) eating healthy costs too much and takes too much effort. I buy chicken, dip it in eggs, roll it in flower and deep fry it for 13 minutes BOOM dinner. with veggies I have to be careful to buy fresh ones, but not too fresh, I have to make sure I eat them before they spoil.

I'm not fat, but I eat like a fat person. Most fat people I know don't make any excuse they just go "fuck it I'm fat and I like to eat fried foods" But, it is a lot more work to cook healthy.

veggies don't fill me up, I could eat 5 full size salads and still be hungry. And when I do eat healthy I tend to get hungry again much quicker. I need meet and grease to really give me a full feeling. Of course I'm able to eat a 1 lb burger with fries like it was a 99 value meal so maybe I'm abnormal, but without the junk calories I seem to leave a meal feeling less than satisfied .


*runs off to fry some wings*

Make sure you have your next of kin post to this thread when you drop dead of heart disease one day in the not so distant future.

wow I'm going to die now LOL let me go call my doctor and tell him your diagnoses of me. I might not live to be 90 but as it stands I'm healthy right now, my last physical was perfect.
I could point you to (if I could find it) a story about a man local to me in Riverside who has been eating 2 whoppers a day and nothing else for almost 20 years and is fine. He's around 70 and has been on a fixed income. Said this was the cheapest way he could get full every day. So what his story isn't the normal for crappy eaters. It does show that eating crap all the time doesn't mean the person will die in 5, 10, hell even 30 years time.

thanks for wishing death on me, I do appreciate it man.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: HammerCurl
They sell some cheap candy at dollar general and wal-mart. Even the name brand stuff, 1lb of kit kat for a dollar as the last I saw. But its pretty hard to get direct comparisons with food. How about cooking oils -the stuff with hydrogenated oils lasts long and add trans fat verus an astronomical difference in cost for olive oil.

Also, drumsticks on sale are generally cheaper than $2.00 boneless skinless chicken breast.

I bought a huge tub of oatmeal for about $3 that will last a lot longer than 3 lbs of candy.

If you are deep frying everything, olive oil is not going to be much help anyway. What are you doing that you use up so much vegetable oil exactly? I go through a bottle every few months at most. That's a pretty insubstantial difference in cost per week.

Drumsticks have less meat than boneless skinless chicken breasts. Why wouldn't they cost less? Try measuring the actual amount of edible flesh present and calculating the "cost of flesh per pound" I find it hard to believe that you can get as much chicken out of a bunch of drumsticks than a bag of frozen breasts for $7.

 

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: bignateyk
Because fat people are lazy, and won't cook for themselves. Once you eliminate cooking for yourself, junk food is a pretty cheap alternative.

Plus they like to use any excuse possible to justify their obesity.

people who eat fast food a lot, will typically cook unhealthy food when they do cook so what does it matter? I own a deep fryer and have pretty much figured out how to deep fry everything from potatoes to hot pockets to burritos (chimmichanga) eating healthy costs too much and takes too much effort. I buy chicken, dip it in eggs, roll it in flower and deep fry it for 13 minutes BOOM dinner. with veggies I have to be careful to buy fresh ones, but not too fresh, I have to make sure I eat them before they spoil.

I'm not fat, but I eat like a fat person. Most fat people I know don't make any excuse they just go "fuck it I'm fat and I like to eat fried foods" But, it is a lot more work to cook healthy.

veggies don't fill me up, I could eat 5 full size salads and still be hungry. And when I do eat healthy I tend to get hungry again much quicker. I need meet and grease to really give me a full feeling. Of course I'm able to eat a 1 lb burger with fries like it was a 99 value meal so maybe I'm abnormal, but without the junk calories I seem to leave a meal feeling less than satisfied .


*runs off to fry some wings*

Cooking healthy is not any more expensive or difficult than cooking an unhealthy meal. Fat people just can't admit to it. It's as simple as using a different kind of oil, using a different cut/kind of meat, using a different kind of veggie that doesnt spoil as fast, using brown pasta/rice instead of white pasta/rice, using leafy greens instead of iceburg, ditch the salad dressing (thus saving even more money). Get rid of the potato chips and eat some carrots. There are plenty of fruits/veggies that stay fresh for a week or more. All it takes is buying a different subset of ingredients at the store.

If you wanna eat like shit and be fat, good for you, I just don't want to hear any excuses for being fat or bitching when they finally decide to increase health insurance premiums for fat people.

edit: I guess what i'm trying to say is: being fat is a choice. I don't want to hear any excuses or complaining when that choice inevitably leads to bad results.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Many times when the subject of obesity comes up, someone will mention that poor people have a greater tendency to be obese due to the "fact" that bad food is cheaper than good food. Only in some cases would I agree that good food is more expensive than bad food, and if one does a cost/benefit analysis, it really isn't more expensive at all.

Wonder Bread is much cheaper than the sixteen whole grain variety of bread that I buy, but I can eat multiple sandwiches on Wonder Bread and never feel full. When I eat a sandwich on good bread, my stomach knows it has been fed. The good bread counts as part of a meal, whereas crappy bread is little more than two sheets of spongy cardboard to keep the contents of the sandwich from getting all over your fingers.

That second paragraph contradicts the whole reason you wrote this article. You can eat SEVERAL SANDWICHES with the shittier bread (which has about the same caloric content) without feeling full.

How does it contradict it? When I eat, I want to feel full when I am done. Crappy food doesn't fill me up.

In other words, you've bought the cheap stuff at the store thinking you'd save a buck (people who are buying wonder bread aren't thinking that they'd be "filled up" with better whole grain bread). When you go to eat, you eat several sandwiches, possibly doubling or tripling the number of calories that you'd normally have for lunch.

The cheaper food has, therefore, increased your caloric content. It has cost you more money (you're eating more sandwiches), but most people aren't realizing that when they're at the store actually buying the bread. Thus, they buy the cheap bread and eat more rather than buying the expensive bread and eating less.

 

[yllus]

The fuller picture of the "why do the poor prefer bad food" issue is seen when you factor in the variable of time. The longer hours, fractured family life and generally hard-fought life of the working poor tend to mean that food prep time isn't as readily available as for we middle- and upper-class folk.

 

[nonameo]

Protien, fat, and fiber will fill you up.

sugars and starches will not, but starch is better than sugar.

Fat, sugar and starches will make you fat.

Protien and fiber are usually more expensive to buy than starches and sugars.

Also, soda is the ultimate LOSE for calories. It does zero to fill you up, and is completely loaded with calories.


edit:

it's also easier to keep track of what you're eating when you make it yourself.

Do you think outback uses light mayonaise? Canola oil to fry their bloomin' onions? etc. etc. etc.??? You have to ASK for nutrition information. Plus, calories are an easy way to make things tasty. Why not utilize that for massive damage?(profit)

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: bignateyk
Because fat people are lazy, and won't cook for themselves. Once you eliminate cooking for yourself, junk food is a pretty cheap alternative.

Plus they like to use any excuse possible to justify their obesity.

people who eat fast food a lot, will typically cook unhealthy food when they do cook so what does it matter? I own a deep fryer and have pretty much figured out how to deep fry everything from potatoes to hot pockets to burritos (chimmichanga) eating healthy costs too much and takes too much effort. I buy chicken, dip it in eggs, roll it in flower and deep fry it for 13 minutes BOOM dinner. with veggies I have to be careful to buy fresh ones, but not too fresh, I have to make sure I eat them before they spoil.

I'm not fat, but I eat like a fat person. Most fat people I know don't make any excuse they just go "fuck it I'm fat and I like to eat fried foods" But, it is a lot more work to cook healthy.

veggies don't fill me up, I could eat 5 full size salads and still be hungry. And when I do eat healthy I tend to get hungry again much quicker. I need meet and grease to really give me a full feeling. Of course I'm able to eat a 1 lb burger with fries like it was a 99 value meal so maybe I'm abnormal, but without the junk calories I seem to leave a meal feeling less than satisfied .


*runs off to fry some wings*

Cooking healthy is not any more expensive or difficult than cooking an unhealthy meal. Fat people just can't admit to it. It's as simple as using a different kind of oil, using a different cut/kind of meat, using a different kind of veggie that doesnt spoil as fast, using brown pasta/rice instead of white pasta/rice, using leafy greens instead of iceburg. Get rid of the potato chips and eat some carrots. There are plenty of fruits/veggies that stay fresh for a week or more. All it takes is buying a different subset of ingredients at the store.

If you wanna eat like shit and be fat, good for you, I just don't want to hear any excuses for being fat or bitching when they finally decide to increase health insurance premiums for fat people.

edit: I guess what i'm trying to say is: being fat is a choice. I don't want to hear any excuses or complaining when that choice inevitably leads to bad results.

Lean hamburger costs more than fatty hamburger. A BOX of Mac and Cheese costs less than an apple. There is no comparison.

I agree that being fat is a choice, just as spending more money on food is a choice. People are cheap.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: bignateyk
Because fat people are lazy, and won't cook for themselves. Once you eliminate cooking for yourself, junk food is a pretty cheap alternative.

Plus they like to use any excuse possible to justify their obesity.

people who eat fast food a lot, will typically cook unhealthy food when they do cook so what does it matter? I own a deep fryer and have pretty much figured out how to deep fry everything from potatoes to hot pockets to burritos (chimmichanga) eating healthy costs too much and takes too much effort. I buy chicken, dip it in eggs, roll it in flower and deep fry it for 13 minutes BOOM dinner. with veggies I have to be careful to buy fresh ones, but not too fresh, I have to make sure I eat them before they spoil.

I'm not fat, but I eat like a fat person. Most fat people I know don't make any excuse they just go "fuck it I'm fat and I like to eat fried foods" But, it is a lot more work to cook healthy.

veggies don't fill me up, I could eat 5 full size salads and still be hungry. And when I do eat healthy I tend to get hungry again much quicker. I need meet and grease to really give me a full feeling. Of course I'm able to eat a 1 lb burger with fries like it was a 99 value meal so maybe I'm abnormal, but without the junk calories I seem to leave a meal feeling less than satisfied .


*runs off to fry some wings*

Cooking healthy is not any more expensive or difficult than cooking an unhealthy meal. Fat people just can't admit to it. It's as simple as using a different kind of oil, using a different cut/kind of meat, using a different kind of veggie that doesnt spoil as fast, using brown pasta/rice instead of white pasta/rice, using leafy greens instead of iceburg. Get rid of the potato chips and eat some carrots. There are plenty of fruits/veggies that stay fresh for a week or more. All it takes is buying a different subset of ingredients at the store.

If you wanna eat like shit and be fat, good for you, I just don't want to hear any excuses for being fat or bitching when they finally decide to increase health insurance premiums for fat people.

ok let me say this and hopefully people will understand

fat fills me up, calories fill me up to, but when I'm eat low fat foods I don't feel full. It requires a lot more veggies to fill me up as opposed to some bacon. It's harder for mt eo deal with veggies because I have to worry about what's in season, what's fresh, and cooking them takes more effort on my part. as I said Salads don't fill me up, I would easily eat an entire head of lettuces with a crap load of carrots and cucumbers on it and be left upset because I feel cheated. For the same price as I made that salad, I could get some noodles and a jar of Alfredo sauce and be full afterwards.

I admire anyone who can get full off of eating a skinless chicken breast with some rice and broccoli on the side. But that's about an appetizer for me. I have tried eating healthy and my grocery bill was larger and I was never truly full.

and to the guy who said soda doesn't fill you up, it might be dead calories but I can drink a 2 liter of pepsi and not want food. Sugar is a great, super cheap filler if you ask me.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: yllus
The fuller picture of the "why do the poor prefer bad food" issue is seen when you factor in the variable of time. The longer hours, fractured family life and generally hard-fought life of the working poor tend to mean that food prep time isn't as readily available as for we middle- and upper-class folk.

Yes, I mentioned that towards the end of my original post. :thumbsup:

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: nonameo
Protien, fat, and fiber will fill you up.

sugars and starches will not, but starch is better than sugar.

Fat, sugar and starches will make you fat.

Protien and fiber are usually more expensive to buy than starches and sugars.

Also, soda is the ultimate LOSE for calories. It does zero to fill you up, and is completely loaded with calories.

Indeed, I completely stopped buying soda when I realized three things

A) It costs a lot
B) It does nothing for me (doesn't fill me up at all, nor does it satisfy my thirst - often I'm more thirsty afterwards)
C) Ice water tastes just as good, especially with a slice of lemon (a glass of milk tastes even better - it's supposed to be bad for you because it's full of fat, but I love it)

 

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: bignateyk
Because fat people are lazy, and won't cook for themselves. Once you eliminate cooking for yourself, junk food is a pretty cheap alternative.

Plus they like to use any excuse possible to justify their obesity.

people who eat fast food a lot, will typically cook unhealthy food when they do cook so what does it matter? I own a deep fryer and have pretty much figured out how to deep fry everything from potatoes to hot pockets to burritos (chimmichanga) eating healthy costs too much and takes too much effort. I buy chicken, dip it in eggs, roll it in flower and deep fry it for 13 minutes BOOM dinner. with veggies I have to be careful to buy fresh ones, but not too fresh, I have to make sure I eat them before they spoil.

I'm not fat, but I eat like a fat person. Most fat people I know don't make any excuse they just go "fuck it I'm fat and I like to eat fried foods" But, it is a lot more work to cook healthy.

veggies don't fill me up, I could eat 5 full size salads and still be hungry. And when I do eat healthy I tend to get hungry again much quicker. I need meet and grease to really give me a full feeling. Of course I'm able to eat a 1 lb burger with fries like it was a 99 value meal so maybe I'm abnormal, but without the junk calories I seem to leave a meal feeling less than satisfied .


*runs off to fry some wings*

Cooking healthy is not any more expensive or difficult than cooking an unhealthy meal. Fat people just can't admit to it. It's as simple as using a different kind of oil, using a different cut/kind of meat, using a different kind of veggie that doesnt spoil as fast, using brown pasta/rice instead of white pasta/rice, using leafy greens instead of iceburg. Get rid of the potato chips and eat some carrots. There are plenty of fruits/veggies that stay fresh for a week or more. All it takes is buying a different subset of ingredients at the store.

If you wanna eat like shit and be fat, good for you, I just don't want to hear any excuses for being fat or bitching when they finally decide to increase health insurance premiums for fat people.

edit: I guess what i'm trying to say is: being fat is a choice. I don't want to hear any excuses or complaining when that choice inevitably leads to bad results.

Lean hamburger costs more than fatty hamburger. A BOX of Mac and Cheese costs less than an apple. There is no comparison.

I agree that being fat is a choice, just as spending more money on food is a choice. People are cheap.

I'm sure there are cases where junk food is cheaper than it's alternative. I think if you looked at the big picture, there really isn't a whole lot of difference though. Likewise, I have a pretty hard time believing that fat people buy the stuff because it's a few cents cheaper. I think it's more that they just want to eat the "tastier" food, and could care less that it isn't heathy. The price is just a convenient excuse. I think if you priced lean burger and fatty burger the same, the obese person would choose the fatty burger 9 times out of 10.

 

[nonameo]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: nonameo
Protien, fat, and fiber will fill you up.

sugars and starches will not, but starch is better than sugar.

Fat, sugar and starches will make you fat.

Protien and fiber are usually more expensive to buy than starches and sugars.

Also, soda is the ultimate LOSE for calories. It does zero to fill you up, and is completely loaded with calories.

Indeed, I completely stopped buying soda when I realized three things

A) It costs a lot
B) It does nothing for me (doesn't fill me up at all, nor does it satisfy my thirst - often I'm more thirsty afterwards)
C) Ice water tastes just as good, especially with a slice of lemon (a glass of milk tastes even better - it's supposed to be bad for you because it's full of fat, but I love it)

Milk will actually fill you up, as long as it is whole milk. Skim or 1% is just as bad as soda, except that milk actually has good things for you in it.

If you're going to drink milk, just drink whole milk and drink it sparingly.

edit: to all the fast food people, it is possible to get healthy fast food. The problem is that it usually has chicken or fish in it, and it is usually a lot more money than the beef items on the menu.

Also, sauces, toppings, and other add-onables can have lots of calories. I used to get a spicy chicken wrap from chick fil a every once in a while when I was in college, but I'd only use half the spicy dressing packet because it had just as many calories in the packet as the whole wrap itself. Hard to believe, but that is how it rolls.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: MrChad
I'm not sure I understand your point.

If I have $20 to spend at the grocery store, I can get more calories for my dollar by buying "junk" food than buying healthier options such as fruits and vegetables. There are many reasons for this (crop subsidies, cost of production / distribution, etc), but those are the facts.

What junk food are you using for comparison, mac and cheese and ramen noodles? I bet I could eat healthier than that for cheaper just by buying some bulk grains a couple of veggies.

Did you read the link I posted?

Yes, it didn't list options like oatmeal or brown rice. And you seem to be operating on the assumption that all calories are equal in terms of meals. It takes a lot more than 200 calories to feel satiated on smarties. 200 Calories of celery would probably be enough for a LOT of meals. While it may be technically true that celery is more expensive "per calorie" than smarties, it's a bogus argument in the context of this thread, because the celery will be more satiating than a tiny package of smarties.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Many times when the subject of obesity comes up, someone will mention that poor people have a greater tendency to be obese due to the "fact" that bad food is cheaper than good food. Only in some cases would I agree that good food is more expensive than bad food, and if one does a cost/benefit analysis, it really isn't more expensive at all.

Wonder Bread is much cheaper than the sixteen whole grain variety of bread that I buy, but I can eat multiple sandwiches on Wonder Bread and never feel full. When I eat a sandwich on good bread, my stomach knows it has been fed. The good bread counts as part of a meal, whereas crappy bread is little more than two sheets of spongy cardboard to keep the contents of the sandwich from getting all over your fingers.

That second paragraph contradicts the whole reason you wrote this article. You can eat SEVERAL SANDWICHES with the shittier bread (which has about the same caloric content) without feeling full.

How does it contradict it? When I eat, I want to feel full when I am done. Crappy food doesn't fill me up.

In other words, you've bought the cheap stuff at the store thinking you'd save a buck (people who are buying wonder bread aren't thinking that they'd be "filled up" with better whole grain bread). When you go to eat, you eat several sandwiches, possibly doubling or tripling the number of calories that you'd normally have for lunch.

The cheaper food has, therefore, increased your caloric content. It has cost you more money (you're eating more sandwiches), but most people aren't realizing that when they're at the store actually buying the bread. Thus, they buy the cheap bread and eat more rather than buying the expensive bread and eating less.

wrong, the bread I buy is 88 cents a loaf (Van Decamps) I might have to make 2 sandwiches but the sara lee whole grain bread is typically 4 bucks a loaf. I could buy almost FIVE loafs of the crap bread for the price of 1 loaf of wheat bread. If I get the ghetto wheet bread I'm still looking @ about 3 bucks a loaf. Which I could still get 3-4 loafs of the stuff I get. So instead of one monster sandwich I'll make 2 smaller ones. In the end I get more bread for my money it's not even a compairson. I know this bread is horrible for me but when I can get 5 loafs for the price of 1 bag of Roman Meal it's hard for me to justify the expensive shit seeing how I could eat 4 sandwiches for every 1 and still have bread left over.

but that's just me

 

[skace]

I'd still like to see someone compete with the $1.40 meal I pasted up above that was 14 complete ounces of instant mac and cheese. I know Eezee said he could compete with Ramen, but I'd love to see his numbers. There used to be deals at my supermarket for ramen at 10 cents a package, but even going based on netgrocer's 35 cents a pack number, I'd like to see that one worked out. Of course, when you try to compete with ramen, you have to compete using actual healthy whole wheat noodles and some sort of seasoning that is going to compare flavor wise. Granted, I wouldn't expect the flavor to be identical without a million mg of salt.

The prices up above are non-coupon based, but most poor people would be going based on coupons and most of these unhealthy items are very often found in the coupon section. Which is another added point.

 

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: QueBert

Originally posted by: bignateyk
Because fat people are lazy, and won't cook for themselves. Once you eliminate cooking for yourself, junk food is a pretty cheap alternative.

Plus they like to use any excuse possible to justify their obesity.

people who eat fast food a lot, will typically cook unhealthy food when they do cook so what does it matter? I own a deep fryer and have pretty much figured out how to deep fry everything from potatoes to hot pockets to burritos (chimmichanga) eating healthy costs too much and takes too much effort. I buy chicken, dip it in eggs, roll it in flower and deep fry it for 13 minutes BOOM dinner. with veggies I have to be careful to buy fresh ones, but not too fresh, I have to make sure I eat them before they spoil.

I'm not fat, but I eat like a fat person. Most fat people I know don't make any excuse they just go "fuck it I'm fat and I like to eat fried foods" But, it is a lot more work to cook healthy.

veggies don't fill me up, I could eat 5 full size salads and still be hungry. And when I do eat healthy I tend to get hungry again much quicker. I need meet and grease to really give me a full feeling. Of course I'm able to eat a 1 lb burger with fries like it was a 99 value meal so maybe I'm abnormal, but without the junk calories I seem to leave a meal feeling less than satisfied .


*runs off to fry some wings*

Cooking healthy is not any more expensive or difficult than cooking an unhealthy meal. Fat people just can't admit to it. It's as simple as using a different kind of oil, using a different cut/kind of meat, using a different kind of veggie that doesnt spoil as fast, using brown pasta/rice instead of white pasta/rice, using leafy greens instead of iceburg. Get rid of the potato chips and eat some carrots. There are plenty of fruits/veggies that stay fresh for a week or more. All it takes is buying a different subset of ingredients at the store.

If you wanna eat like shit and be fat, good for you, I just don't want to hear any excuses for being fat or bitching when they finally decide to increase health insurance premiums for fat people.

ok let me say this and hopefully people will understand

fat fills me up, calories fill me up to, but when I'm eat low fat foods I don't feel full. It requires a lot more veggies to fill me up as opposed to some bacon. It's harder for mt eo deal with veggies because I have to worry about what's in season, what's fresh, and cooking them takes more effort on my part. as I said Salads don't fill me up, I would easily eat an entire head of lettuces with a crap load of carrots and cucumbers on it and be left upset because I feel cheated. For the same price as I made that salad, I could get some noodles and a jar of Alfredo sauce and be full afterwards.

I admire anyone who can get full off of eating a skinless chicken breast with some rice and broccoli on the side. But that's about an appetizer for me. I have tried eating healthy and my grocery bill was larger and I was never truly full.

and to the guy who said soda doesn't fill you up, it might be dead calories but I can drink a 2 liter of pepsi and not want food. Sugar is a great, super cheap filler if you ask me.

Fat doesn't fill you up. PROTEIN fills you up. Eating veggies isn't a substitute for eating protein. It's not like you have to make a choice between eating meat and eating fruit for dinner. Eat 1lb of baked chicken vs. 1lb of fried chicken wings. I guaruntee that they will fill you up the exact same amount. Now how about eating some brown rice with that chicken instead of white rice? Brown rice will fill you up more, and won't cause a huge insulin spike. Now toss some leafy greens on the side with a little olive oil as dressing. Thats called a COMPLETE meal, and could be prepared in less than 20 minutes.

Oh, and the reason soda fills you up is the carbonation. Drink some sugar free club soda and you will feel just as full. Sugar WILL NOT fill you up. In fact, it will make you hungrier as soon as your body releases an insulin spike. This is exactly the problem today. Noone has a fucking clue about basic nutrition.

 

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Originally posted by: skace
I'd still like to see someone compete with the $1.40 meal I pasted up above that was 14 complete ounces of instant mac and cheese. I know Eezee said he could compete with Ramen, but I'd love to see his numbers. There used to be deals at my supermarket for ramen at 10 cents a package, but even going based on netgrocer's 35 cents a pack number, I'd like to see that one worked out. Of course, when you try to compete with ramen, you have to compete using actual healthy whole wheat noodles and some sort of seasoning that is going to favorable compare flavor wise. Granted, I wouldn't expect the flavor to be identical without a million mg of salt.

The prices up above are non-coupon based, but most poor people would be going based on coupons and most of these unhealthy items are very often found in the coupon section. Which is another added point.

Brown rice is cheaper than mac and cheese. It's usually $1 per lb or less. 1 lb is a lot of rice - about 10 cups of cooked rice (or 80 ounces for the lazy).