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YANT (Yet Another Neighbor Thread)

magomago

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I park on the side of the road. As far as I know its a public road. Now I park in front of another house because the sprinklers in front of the house I live in have horrible aim: every morning my car gets sprayed by the dirty water. I have a white car , and to have an entire side covered in dirty water that dryes out and leaves films of dirt on one side is something I like to avoid.

Now the neighbor has taken it upon themselves to delcare the area in front of their house as "Theirs". For NOW I moved it over...but I'm ready to move it back because i'm pretty sure it isn't theirs. I have just as much right to park there as they do.

FYI, i don't intrude on their mailbox, or anywhere near it, I don't even come within 6 feet of their driveway. However, they have a big window on the far side of their house that is closest to the house I live in. I suspect that the lady who lives there feels entitled to get a clear view.

Now AFAIK, she owns the plot and I can't touch that (Duh)...But she doesn't own the road next to the house, so she is mistaken to think it belongs to her.

I'm not asking anyone to do research for me (I can do that, but its nice if you want to help lol), but does anyone know if i should look to federal,state,county or city codes to figure this one out? To make it slightly more complicated, I like in a HOA. I'm just looking for something that states roads are public...but I'm not quite here where to look. I'll start off by reading the HOA agreement, and then work from there.
 

Kaido

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Put your trash cans out on the curb and leave them there for a few days, that way they can't park against the curb.
 

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Lifer
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It depends, but generally I would agree that parking in front of their house is kinda rude. I don't know your situation exactly though so I can't say for sure.
 

magomago

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Kaido
Put your trash cans out on the curb and leave them there for a few days, that way they can't park against the curb.

I don't want to start a neighbor fight. I simply want to establish that I can park there, and that they need to STFU about it.

Interestingly enough, early google searches seem to bring up people sleeping overnight on the side because they are too tired...
 

magomago

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Quintox
It depends, but generally I would agree that parking in front of their house is kinda rude. I don't know your situation exactly though so I can't say for sure.

That is fine if they think its rude. I'm nice to people and would easily explain to her (once i can get the appropriate laws) that I have every right to do it. I'm also not trying to block the driveway or block their mailbox (now THAT is annoying).

So let them think its rude so as long as its lawful.
 
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Originally posted by: Quintox
It depends, but generally I would agree that parking in front of their house is kinda rude. I don't know your situation exactly though so I can't say for sure.

Ya, this is my thinking as well. Seems like it'd be easier to have your landlord adjust the sprinkler spray rather than park in front of someone else's house and piss them off. I assume you rent, because if it's your house, then YOU should adjust the sprinklers and park in front of you own damn house.
 

magomago

Lifer
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Originally posted by: jersiq
Originally posted by: magomago
Originally posted by: jersiq
Why don't you park in your driveway?

Too many other cars

Why don't you fix the sprinklers?

Not my house...and its the sprinklers in between the sidewalk and the street. I have no idea if that is public or private.

Either way, none of this matters to the relevant discussion.


Anyways I've made some early head way. I found this following statement in a par tof the website for the city

The public right-of-way includes the street, parkway, driveway apron, and sidewalk.

Now I just need to find out if parking a car in the right of way is allowed in a section that does not forbid it (ie: "no parking" signs)
 

jersiq

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Actually it's rather germaine to the discussion.
I don't want to start a neighbor fight. I simply want to establish that I can park there, and that they need to STFU about it.

All you are perpetuating is a rather childish pissing contest of wills. Instead of pigheadedly attempting to prove "I am right", you could be spending your energy towards a mututal resolution.

Also, considering a HOA is involved, you may find yourself not able to park in the street ever again if your neighbor is a board member.
 

magomago

Lifer
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Originally posted by: jersiq
Actually it's rather germaine to the discussion.
I don't want to start a neighbor fight. I simply want to establish that I can park there, and that they need to STFU about it.

All you are perpetuating is a rather childish pissing contest of wills. Instead of pigheadedly attempting to prove "I am right", you could be spending your energy towards a mututal resolution.

Also, considering a HOA is involved, you may find yourself not able to park in the street ever again if your neighbor is a board member.

A pissing contest? LOL. Okay.


It is legal for me to park my car there (Yup I just found the information that establishes my right to do so. My car is liscened, registered, not abandoned, not updated, etc. etc. etc.).

Now i'll just double check with the HOA to see what extra areas they discuss.

Of course before I move it back I'll knock on their door and talk to them and give them the information that establishes my right to do so, but this is more about their feeling of entitlement to public space in front of their house than it is my desire to have a pissing contest
 

x-alki

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How old are you? You act like you are 12 but since you have a car it's obvious you are older than that. While parking in front of their house may legal it sure isnt very respectful. Keep doing it and dont be suprised if your car gets fucked up some night.
 

Lean L

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Originally posted by: magomago
Originally posted by: jersiq
Actually it's rather germaine to the discussion.
I don't want to start a neighbor fight. I simply want to establish that I can park there, and that they need to STFU about it.

All you are perpetuating is a rather childish pissing contest of wills. Instead of pigheadedly attempting to prove "I am right", you could be spending your energy towards a mututal resolution.

Also, considering a HOA is involved, you may find yourself not able to park in the street ever again if your neighbor is a board member.

A pissing contest? LOL. Okay.


It is legal for me to park my car there (Yup I just found the information that establishes my right to do so. My car is liscened, registered, not abandoned, not updated, etc. etc. etc.).

Now i'll just double check with the HOA to see what extra areas they discuss.

Of course before I move it back I'll knock on their door and talk to them and give them the information that establishes my right to do so, but this is more about their feeling of entitlement to public space in front of their house than it is my desire to have a pissing contest

You just contradict yourself there?

just fix the sprinklers and park in front of your own house. It'd be acceptable to park in front of other's ppls houses if your house doesn't have a driveway or curbs but parking in front of other's people's houses just because you don't want to fix your own problems then making it a lawful issue is just immature

ps i have neighbor park industrial vehicles on the side of my house bc they have no more driveway space and no curb space... if they had more space, i'd talk to them about it, but since they don't it doesn't matter.
 

Coalfax

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Amazing.. you have a driveway and space in front of your own damn house but because of your own inabilities to move crap out of your driveway, or to make a simple phone call to find out about sprinkler spray ownership, you'd rather start a neighbor scuffle and park someplace else.

You , my friend, are a jerk. I agree with almost everyone else here in that I think the neighbors have every right to say you need to move your car. I'd also expect the same as a few above: you don't, then don't be surprised if the sprinklers in front of their hourse 'mysteriously; start spraying crap on your car too.

Wow.. amazing how that seems to perpetuate?

Some people really don't deserve cars...
 

magomago

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Originally posted by: iamanidiot
Originally posted by: magomago
Originally posted by: jersiq
Actually it's rather germaine to the discussion.
I don't want to start a neighbor fight. I simply want to establish that I can park there, and that they need to STFU about it.

All you are perpetuating is a rather childish pissing contest of wills. Instead of pigheadedly attempting to prove "I am right", you could be spending your energy towards a mututal resolution.

Also, considering a HOA is involved, you may find yourself not able to park in the street ever again if your neighbor is a board member.

A pissing contest? LOL. Okay.


It is legal for me to park my car there (Yup I just found the information that establishes my right to do so. My car is liscened, registered, not abandoned, not updated, etc. etc. etc.).

Now i'll just double check with the HOA to see what extra areas they discuss.

Of course before I move it back I'll knock on their door and talk to them and give them the information that establishes my right to do so, but this is more about their feeling of entitlement to public space in front of their house than it is my desire to have a pissing contest

You just contradict yourself there?

just fix the sprinklers and park in front of your own house. It'd be acceptable to park in front of other's ppls houses if your house doesn't have a driveway or curbs but parking in front of other's people's houses just because you don't want to fix your own problems then making it a lawful issue is just immature

ps i have neighbor park industrial vehicles on the side of my house bc they have no more driveway space and no curb space... if they had more space, i'd talk to them about it, but since they don't it doesn't matter.

The sprinklers aren't my issue. It isn't my house. It isn't relevant to the discussion of "Can I park there?" at all. We could be having the same discussion even if the sprinklers were fine. The question about having the ability to park there is strictly a legal one.

I've parked there over a month without problems. I'm MAYBE ~ 3 feet towards 'their side'. There is still plenty of space to park an extra car on the side if they see fit without even coming near the driveway apron. I am doing something that I have every right to (and we aren't even talking about the whole length, they got another good section on the other side of the drive way apron...the house I am in has a fire hydrant on the other side) - and in no way did I decide I purposely take their space because "I have the right to" (Although if I wanted, I could do just that, but I have no interest). They are the one that came with this issue. I'm simply saying that "sorry, but that doesn't supercede my right to do so".

Tomorrow (it seems they left because they aren't opening their door at this moment and its dark, which i can understand) I'll go have a talk to see what their issue is exactly (as of right now, I only know what I've been told from another housemate. Of course, I could have received the information wrong...which is why I don't want to go up, yell and explode in their faces. I do want to be respectful about it).

Originally posted by: ekrub
How old are you? You act like you are 12 but since you have a car it's obvious you are older than that. While parking in front of their house may legal it sure isnt very respectful. Keep doing it and dont be suprised if your car gets fucked up some night.

Nice logic. Continue to do what is legal, but fear illegal repercussions!
 

magomago

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Coalfax
Amazing.. you have a driveway and space in front of your own damn house but because of your own inabilities to move crap out of your driveway, or to make a simple phone call to find out about sprinkler spray ownership, you'd rather start a neighbor scuffle and park someplace else.

You , my friend, are a jerk. I agree with almost everyone else here in that I think the neighbors have every right to say you need to move your car. I'd also expect the same as a few above: you don't, then don't be surprised if the sprinklers in front of their hourse 'mysteriously; start spraying crap on your car too.

Wow.. amazing how that seems to perpetuate?

Some people really don't deserve cars...

Clearly you do not think.

edit:

the funny part is there a question about this exactly on the city's website and the response, which is formal and long, sums up as follows: "Unless its abandoned, stolen, has expired registration or is stored as a non operational vehicle, then you can't do anything".
 

Capt Caveman

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OP sounds like an immature asshat. Too lazy to fix the sprinklers or park elsewhere. If I were the neighbors, I would park their own car in the street in front of their house so the OP couldn't park there.

Personally, I would get tired if you parked in front of my house every day also when you could park in your driveway, front of your house or elsewhere. Family, friends, etc can't park in front of my house but elsewhere b/c of some lazy kid.
 

Lean L

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this doesn't really need to get to what is lawful or not. The sprinkers are the issue since that's what caused you park there in the first place. Now I don't know the situation, but did the neighbors scream at you or something? they have no right to do that, and if they did i can understand this pent up anger, but realize they have some grounds for not wanting you to park there (mainly that you have available parking that you find unacceptable). If they just came and asked you nicely I don't see why you can't just explain why you're parking there. That way they won't think it's from spite.
 

herrjimbo

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why not park one your other cars on the street in front of your house and park your white car in your driveway?

even though it's perfectly legal to park in front of your neighbor's house, it is rude.

eliminate the hassle.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: magomago
The sprinklers aren't my issue. It isn't my house.

You LIVE there. Get something done about it. Legally you can park in front of your neighbors house, but you are a Grade A Douchebag if you do so instead fixing YOUR sprinkler problem, you over-entitled little twerp.

Grow the fuck up, you arrogant, immature pest. You don't have the first clue about living as a responsible adult in a community of adults. You suck.

 

magomago

Lifer
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Originally posted by: iamanidiot
this doesn't really need to get to what is lawful or not. The sprinkers are the issue since that's what caused you park there in the first place. Now I don't know the situation, but did the neighbors scream at you or something? they have no right to do that, and if they did i can understand this pent up anger, but realize they have some grounds for not wanting you to park there (mainly that you have available parking that you find unacceptable). If they just came and asked you nicely I don't see why you can't just explain why you're parking there. That way they won't think it's from spite.

Yup the sprinklers are there for now. But now looking back at it, I might not be able to park any closer depending on mailbox laws (yup, gotta leave a space clear...but now sure how many feet. On top of it, the other side of the driveway apron isn't an option. There is a nice big fire hydrant which pretty much cuts off that option). I'll have to see how close I'm allowed to get it it.

Now I learned of this through a housemate. In any event, I stated I'm going over tomorrow to see what is up. I'll ask why the told my housemate to tell me to move it (better to get the exact info from the horses mouth, no?). It never was spite at all.
LOL @ pented anger. The funny part is I have none. If anything I'm amused 'I know my rights now.

Originally posted by: herrjimbo
why not park one your other cars on the street in front of your house and park your white car in your driveway?

even though it's perfectly legal to park in front of your neighbor's house, it is rude.

eliminate the hassle.

I only have one.
 

magomago

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: magomago
The sprinklers aren't my issue. It isn't my house.

You LIVE there. Get something done about it. Legally you can park in front of your neighbors house, but you are a Grade A Douchebag if you do so instead fixing YOUR sprinkler problem, you over-entitled little twerp.

Grow the fuck up, you arrogant, immature pest. You don't have the first clue about living as a responsible adult in a community of adults. You suck.

Yes...because calling people a twerp, Grade A Douchebag, an arrogant immature pest, and telling them to grow the fuck up while saying they suck is clearly a mark of being a responsible adult. :roll:
 

Red Squirrel

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I would just fix the sprinklers, if they are public (never heard of that, but guess some cities may have them) just put something in front to block the water from hitting the part where your car is. A brick or something should do.

I usually avoid street parking as much as possible because of snow plows and the fact that it's in public so there's bigger chance of vandals.
 

Bignate603

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I came in thinking they were complaining about you parking in front of their place just once and a while when you had a party. That would be fine, but every single day is really rude. Plenty of things are legal but that doesn't mean they aren't rude.