YANBAT: NJ Nets pick up Cliff Robinson. hmmm : NBA

[PlatinumGold]

Dayum, if they had only found a way to keep KMart. stupid stupid stupid owner.

oh well.


edited for Iamme

 

[Coquito]

Although he fit well with the team's style, Kmart wasn't worth the money.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Coquito
Although he fit well with the team's style, Kmart wasn't worth the money.

ya, i know. but the chemistry is pretty important too.

think about it, Kidd, Carter, Cliff, KMart and (any old body at C) Running the court. shoot, that would be a pretty good 4.

 

[iamme]

with Cliff and Campbell, they've got some big bodies and some defense against Shaq. looks like the Nets are making a playoff push this season.

as long as the Nets keep Kidd, they'll always be dangerous in my mind.

 

[iamme]

btw, not to be anal, but i think it'd be cool if basketball threads had an "NBA" in the title for easy searching. since there aren't too many basketball posters, i figure we could start the trend 🙂

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: iamme
with Cliff and Campbell, they've got some big bodies and some defense against Shaq. looks like the Nets are making a playoff push this season.

as long as the Nets keep Kidd, they'll always be dangerous in my mind.

who is the bigger star? Kidd or Carter?

i think it is pretty easy to say Kidd is more important to the team (altho carter has played well). but who would you consider the biggest star on the Nets right now?

 

[Nikamichi]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: iamme
with Cliff and Campbell, they've got some big bodies and some defense against Shaq. looks like the Nets are making a playoff push this season.

as long as the Nets keep Kidd, they'll always be dangerous in my mind.

who is the bigger star? Kidd or Carter?

i think it is pretty easy to say Kidd is more important to the team (altho carter has played well). but who would you consider the biggest star on the Nets right now?

Even though he's not playing, Jefferson is the biggest star on that team.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: iamme
with Cliff and Campbell, they've got some big bodies and some defense against Shaq. looks like the Nets are making a playoff push this season.

as long as the Nets keep Kidd, they'll always be dangerous in my mind.

who is the bigger star? Kidd or Carter?

i think it is pretty easy to say Kidd is more important to the team (altho carter has played well). but who would you consider the biggest star on the Nets right now?

Even though he's not playing, Jefferson is the biggest star on that team.

no way, i would much rather have kept Kmart than RJ. shoot if they said they were trading RJ and a contract for KMart, i would definitely be happy.

 

[iamme]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: iamme
with Cliff and Campbell, they've got some big bodies and some defense against Shaq. looks like the Nets are making a playoff push this season.

as long as the Nets keep Kidd, they'll always be dangerous in my mind.

who is the bigger star? Kidd or Carter?

i think it is pretty easy to say Kidd is more important to the team (altho carter has played well). but who would you consider the biggest star on the Nets right now?

Carter's the bigger star (as evidenced by all star voting), but the Pistons have faced a VC led Raptors team and beat them.

no matter how many points VC or RJ scores, i consider Kidd the most important player on that team. even though Kidd isn't known for his offensive game, as a big guard, he can post up the other teams PG's and become a dangerous passer.

 

[Nikamichi]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: iamme
with Cliff and Campbell, they've got some big bodies and some defense against Shaq. looks like the Nets are making a playoff push this season.

as long as the Nets keep Kidd, they'll always be dangerous in my mind.

who is the bigger star? Kidd or Carter?

i think it is pretty easy to say Kidd is more important to the team (altho carter has played well). but who would you consider the biggest star on the Nets right now?

Even though he's not playing, Jefferson is the biggest star on that team.

no way, i would much rather have kept Kmart than RJ. shoot if they said they were trading RJ and a contract for KMart, i would definitely be happy.

RJ is the type of player you can build a team around (as he's already one of the best SF's in the L), I really don't think the same can't be said for Martin. He's talented, but is still a complimentary player compared to the likes of Stoudemire or even a PF like Brand.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: iamme
with Cliff and Campbell, they've got some big bodies and some defense against Shaq. looks like the Nets are making a playoff push this season.

as long as the Nets keep Kidd, they'll always be dangerous in my mind.

who is the bigger star? Kidd or Carter?

i think it is pretty easy to say Kidd is more important to the team (altho carter has played well). but who would you consider the biggest star on the Nets right now?

Even though he's not playing, Jefferson is the biggest star on that team.

no way, i would much rather have kept Kmart than RJ. shoot if they said they were trading RJ and a contract for KMart, i would definitely be happy.

RJ is the type of player you can build a team around (as he's already one of the best SF's in the L), I really don't think the same can't be said for Martin. He's talented, but is still a complimentary player compared to the likes of Stoudemire or even a PF like Brand.

Carter is better than RJ, the only advantage RJ has over Carter is he's younger.

RJ still hasn't proven he has the skills to be a superstar. his outside shot is still too inconsistent. and he's no MJ with the dribble and drive.

 

[Coquito]

Every other time VC gets that ball he'll try to get iso & make his own shot. Either that or he just throws one up once it's passed to him. The team just stands around all that time. RJ, Kidd, Martin all move without the ball. VC is scoring alot, but he doesn't look like a person who will make this team better. Kidd getting healthy again has gotten this team better.

On another note, I think Cliff's agile game will be good for this club. He may run the floor & do more then just sit there & launch 3s like he's done the past several years.

 

[iamme]

just don't expect any rebounding from Uncle Cliffy....he's pretty much a 6'10" SG 😀

btw, thanks for the edit 🙂

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: iamme
just don't expect any rebounding from Uncle Cliffy....he's pretty much a 6'10" SG 😀

btw, thanks for the edit 🙂

I lived in Portland, OR from 1990 to 1995. so, i am quite familiar with Uncle Cliffy's game. of course back then he was an up and coming superstar.

 

[Nikamichi]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: iamme
with Cliff and Campbell, they've got some big bodies and some defense against Shaq. looks like the Nets are making a playoff push this season.

as long as the Nets keep Kidd, they'll always be dangerous in my mind.

who is the bigger star? Kidd or Carter?

i think it is pretty easy to say Kidd is more important to the team (altho carter has played well). but who would you consider the biggest star on the Nets right now?

Even though he's not playing, Jefferson is the biggest star on that team.

no way, i would much rather have kept Kmart than RJ. shoot if they said they were trading RJ and a contract for KMart, i would definitely be happy.

RJ is the type of player you can build a team around (as he's already one of the best SF's in the L), I really don't think the same can't be said for Martin. He's talented, but is still a complimentary player compared to the likes of Stoudemire or even a PF like Brand.

Carter is better than RJ, the only advantage RJ has over Carter is he's younger.

RJ still hasn't proven he has the skills to be a superstar. his outside shot is still too inconsistent. and he's no MJ with the dribble and drive.

Although Carter is a better outside shooter (39% vs 34%), there's no way he's as versatile as RJ.

RJ 22/7/4
VC 22/5/4

If RJ had played more games with Kidd, his stats would definitely be of a much higher %.
Besides, would you rather have a workhorse like RJ or a player like VC who doesn't put forth the effort when he doesn't get what he wants?

 

[Storm]

Well with RJ you can't question is effort...

VC there are still doubts and always will be unfortunately.

Also how much influence has playing with Kidd effected VC's current stats?

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: iamme
with Cliff and Campbell, they've got some big bodies and some defense against Shaq. looks like the Nets are making a playoff push this season.

as long as the Nets keep Kidd, they'll always be dangerous in my mind.

who is the bigger star? Kidd or Carter?

i think it is pretty easy to say Kidd is more important to the team (altho carter has played well). but who would you consider the biggest star on the Nets right now?

Even though he's not playing, Jefferson is the biggest star on that team.

no way, i would much rather have kept Kmart than RJ. shoot if they said they were trading RJ and a contract for KMart, i would definitely be happy.

RJ is the type of player you can build a team around (as he's already one of the best SF's in the L), I really don't think the same can't be said for Martin. He's talented, but is still a complimentary player compared to the likes of Stoudemire or even a PF like Brand.

Carter is better than RJ, the only advantage RJ has over Carter is he's younger.

RJ still hasn't proven he has the skills to be a superstar. his outside shot is still too inconsistent. and he's no MJ with the dribble and drive.

Although Carter is a better outside shooter (39% vs 34%), there's no way he's as versatile as RJ.

RJ 22/7/4
VC 22/5/4

If RJ had played more games with Kidd, his stats would definitely be of a much higher %.
Besides, would you rather have a workhorse like RJ or a player like VC who doesn't put forth the effort when he doesn't get what he wants?

hmmm

VC was 16/3/3 with Toronto
and now 26/6/5 with NJ

so, yes, he didn't play as hard at toronto, of course part of it of course is, he didn't have Kidd in toronto either. (reference to your statement about RJ's play w/o Kidd).

so, both players play better with kidd right? (kidd is a better player than either of them).

based on carters talent i'll take him over RJ still.

 

[Nikamichi]

Originally posted by: Storm
Also how much influence has playing with Kidd effected VC's current stats?

Tremendously.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/statistics?statsId=3248

 

[Nikamichi]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: iamme
with Cliff and Campbell, they've got some big bodies and some defense against Shaq. looks like the Nets are making a playoff push this season.

as long as the Nets keep Kidd, they'll always be dangerous in my mind.

who is the bigger star? Kidd or Carter?

i think it is pretty easy to say Kidd is more important to the team (altho carter has played well). but who would you consider the biggest star on the Nets right now?

Even though he's not playing, Jefferson is the biggest star on that team.

no way, i would much rather have kept Kmart than RJ. shoot if they said they were trading RJ and a contract for KMart, i would definitely be happy.

RJ is the type of player you can build a team around (as he's already one of the best SF's in the L), I really don't think the same can't be said for Martin. He's talented, but is still a complimentary player compared to the likes of Stoudemire or even a PF like Brand.

Carter is better than RJ, the only advantage RJ has over Carter is he's younger.

RJ still hasn't proven he has the skills to be a superstar. his outside shot is still too inconsistent. and he's no MJ with the dribble and drive.

Although Carter is a better outside shooter (39% vs 34%), there's no way he's as versatile as RJ.

RJ 22/7/4
VC 22/5/4

If RJ had played more games with Kidd, his stats would definitely be of a much higher %.
Besides, would you rather have a workhorse like RJ or a player like VC who doesn't put forth the effort when he doesn't get what he wants?

hmmm

VC was 16/3/3 with Toronto
and now 26/6/5 with NJ

so, yes, he didn't play as hard at toronto, of course part of it of course is, he didn't have Kidd in toronto either. (reference to your statement about RJ's play w/o Kidd).

so, both players play better with kidd right? (kidd is a better player than either of them).

based on carters talent i'll take him over RJ still.

Both players definitely play better with Kidd (who doesn't? 😛 ) I guess it comes down to a matter of preference, b/c as of now RJ is one of the 'untouchables' in this league. Hence the juicy contract extension he received this past summer; VC is a huge talent, but he's still got issues and a reputation to repair.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Nikamichi
Both players definitely play better with Kidd (who doesn't? 😛 ) I guess it comes down to a matter of preference, b/c as of now RJ is one of the 'untouchables' in this league. Hence the juicy contract extension he received this past summer; VC is a huge talent, but he's still got issues and a reputation to repair.

one thing i DEFINITELY would have paid to see was a lineup of:

Kidd, Carter, RJ, Cliff and KMart.

sure a bit small do D real C's or Duncan type PF's. but the offense would be pretty impressive.

they could run and shoot with the best of them.

alas, it is never to be.

 

[iamme]

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Nikamichi

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: iamme
with Cliff and Campbell, they've got some big bodies and some defense against Shaq. looks like the Nets are making a playoff push this season.

as long as the Nets keep Kidd, they'll always be dangerous in my mind.

who is the bigger star? Kidd or Carter?

i think it is pretty easy to say Kidd is more important to the team (altho carter has played well). but who would you consider the biggest star on the Nets right now?

Even though he's not playing, Jefferson is the biggest star on that team.

no way, i would much rather have kept Kmart than RJ. shoot if they said they were trading RJ and a contract for KMart, i would definitely be happy.

RJ is the type of player you can build a team around (as he's already one of the best SF's in the L), I really don't think the same can't be said for Martin. He's talented, but is still a complimentary player compared to the likes of Stoudemire or even a PF like Brand.

Carter is better than RJ, the only advantage RJ has over Carter is he's younger.

RJ still hasn't proven he has the skills to be a superstar. his outside shot is still too inconsistent. and he's no MJ with the dribble and drive.

Although Carter is a better outside shooter (39% vs 34%), there's no way he's as versatile as RJ.

RJ 22/7/4
VC 22/5/4

If RJ had played more games with Kidd, his stats would definitely be of a much higher %.
Besides, would you rather have a workhorse like RJ or a player like VC who doesn't put forth the effort when he doesn't get what he wants?

hmmm

VC was 16/3/3 with Toronto
and now 26/6/5 with NJ

so, yes, he didn't play as hard at toronto, of course part of it of course is, he didn't have Kidd in toronto either. (reference to your statement about RJ's play w/o Kidd).

so, both players play better with kidd right? (kidd is a better player than either of them).

based on carters talent i'll take him over RJ still.

Both players definitely play better with Kidd (who doesn't? 😛 ) I guess it comes down to a matter of preference, b/c as of now RJ is one of the 'untouchables' in this league. Hence the juicy contract extension he received this past summer; VC is a huge talent, but he's still got issues and a reputation to repair.

i think Vince is better able to become the man, without being the man on the team. does that make any sense? people forget how freakish VC played early in his career. i'd take VC over RJ (both with Kidd, of course) because i think he can dominate better than RJ can. also because VC is more exciting to the fans and will put more asses in the stands.

 

[PlatinumGold]

VC reminds me a LOT of Dominique Wilkens. can you imagine how good Nique would have been with a PG like Kidd?

 

[Albis]

i really think jersey will be a solid team next yr b/c it'll take time for kidd and carter to really mold together

 

[iamme]

btw, PlatinumGold, i posted a link to a video highlight that i found on the internet: link. not sure if you saw it yet.

your post about 'Nique reminded me of it 😀

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: iamme
btw, PlatinumGold, i posted a link to a video highlight that i found on the internet: link. not sure if you saw it yet.

your post about 'Nique reminded me of it 😀

downloading it now.