YAGT: The irony of college

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pyonir

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Originally posted by: ultimatebob

Looking back at my college days, I think that I should have taken a lighter class load and spent more time socializing and enjoying the party scene. In the grand scheme of life, an extra semester or two of frat parties and beer pong might have made me a more balanced person!

if not a balanced person, a person that had a hell of a lot more fun. I miss college..well...not college, just the women and parties.
 

BladeWalker

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Skywalker,

The problem I see is your requirement to keep a B+ standing for scholarships. I don't know about your school, but at the college I went to we were graded on a bell curve (majority of my classes). Depending on the professor, the mean can range from 2.6 to 3.2 gpa. My major was Mechanical Engineering btw, so it wasn't a walk in the park. There is an incredibility huge gap in terms of the amount of work one must accomplish to get above this mean. I had to make a decision whether 1) I should aim high for 3.6 gpa or higher 2) settle for the mean, aim for a more realistic 3.3. I know a few students who opted for the former and they did NOT have a social life. I chose the latter and had time to enjoy the finer social aspect of college life.

I learned early on that tests and midterms count a lot more than homework. These tests cannot exceed 1 hour, while homework however takes ungodly amount of time to do. The fact that homework solutions are provided means you can study the solutions. I graduated with a 3.0 gpa and did not regret my decision. I enjoyed my college life.

I guess it's a matter of priorities. You have to decide what is more important. If scholarships and grad school are important I suggest you stay on course and study like h*ll. If you want to have a girlfriend, find someone that's gonna be your study partner.

BTW, you're a conservative Christian. Why are you thinking about girls already? Don't tell me you're thinking about sex too. Keep your mind to your studies so you can go to a prestigious Christian grad school. Let your parents set you up with a nice Christian girl so you can marry her after college.

Best of luck.


 

skywalker66

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Nov 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: jumpr
You're a psych major and don't have any time to hang out? I'm a PoliSci major (and CJ minor) with a 3.761 GPA halfway through my second year at one of the top public schools in the nation and I've got plenty of time to work (two jobs @ about 10-15 hrs. a week EACH), and I've had a girlfriend (who goes to the same school, mind you) for more than 2.5 years. Plus, I'm on track credit-wise to graduate a semester early (although my minor might hold me back with the rest of people my age).

I don't really consider myself a Type-A personality at ALL (I usually hang around with quiet kids and don't really drink that much), but it seems to me like you're reclusing (is that a word?) yourself in your dorm room when you don't really need to be.

You need to get your priorities straight. Maybe it's just your school, but all the normal well-adjusted college kids I know have plenty of time to get their work done, get GOOD grades, AND meet girls/guys.

well I am not normal then I guess. Maybe I'm the only one who's life is consumed by college.
I hate college. It raps around your day like a spider reaches around it's prey,
In the morning and afternoon you have classes, you are doing homework in the afternoon, and you are doing homework at night.

I think I am also just horribe when it comes to packing things into my schedule. I'm not the kind of person who can brag about "all the crap, I'm involved in, all the stuff I've been doing, and the friends I've had, my tight girlfriend, etc"
I've never been that kinda person.

Even if I was efficient, quick, and could manage that kind of life I'm still not sure if i'd want to.
 

StageLeft

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Sep 29, 2000
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I swear I can only do 50 minutes of work at a time, and then I at least need a 20 minute break, usually longe
My god you have work ethic. My personal ratio of work to recovery is about 1:1 when I'm really cranking down on a deadline, and generally closer to 1:3 or so. I do work quite efficiently during that 1: part, so I end up getting things done, but I can't hold it for long ;)
 

brigden

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I really hate to be the barer of bad news, but you're socially retarded, physically unattractive, and generally awkward. Women are not interested in you - period. Your first sexual experience - years of masturbation aside, of course - will likely involve a credit card transaction and/or farm animals.

Do yourself a HUGE favor; stop posting here and start attempting to improve your rather dire situation.
 

Originally posted by: skywalker66
Originally posted by: jumpr
You're a psych major and don't have any time to hang out? I'm a PoliSci major (and CJ minor) with a 3.761 GPA halfway through my second year at one of the top public schools in the nation and I've got plenty of time to work (two jobs @ about 10-15 hrs. a week EACH), and I've had a girlfriend (who goes to the same school, mind you) for more than 2.5 years. Plus, I'm on track credit-wise to graduate a semester early (although my minor might hold me back with the rest of people my age).

I don't really consider myself a Type-A personality at ALL (I usually hang around with quiet kids and don't really drink that much), but it seems to me like you're reclusing (is that a word?) yourself in your dorm room when you don't really need to be.

You need to get your priorities straight. Maybe it's just your school, but all the normal well-adjusted college kids I know have plenty of time to get their work done, get GOOD grades, AND meet girls/guys.

well I am not normal then I guess. Maybe I'm the only one who's life is consumed by college.
I hate college. It raps around your day like a spider reaches around it's prey,
In the morning and afternoon you have classes, you are doing homework in the afternoon, and you are doing homework at night.

I think I am also just horribe when it comes to packing things into my schedule. I'm not the kind of person who can brag about "all the crap, I'm involved in, all the stuff I've been doing, and the friends I've had, my tight girlfriend, etc"
I've never been that kinda person.

Even if I was efficient, quick, and could manage that kind of life I'm still not sure if i'd want to.
Don't get me wrong: I'm not at ALL the type of person who packs it all into my schedule and brags about the stuff I do. Most of my friends barely notice that I've got two jobs. I do my work quietly, take a night off from hanging out with friends if I'm really tired or if I have a ton of work to do, and go out when I can.

The trick is not to pack as much as you can in, the trick is to like what you do. I love one of my jobs, I don't really like the other. I love my classes though, so I basically like what I'm doing. It's possible that college isn't for you if you picture it wrapping around your day like an arachnid predator. I look at college as an experience that basically defines my life for the next 40 years, and my jobs are just side projects. My first priority is my schoolwork, everything else is secondary. Like I said, priorities are key. :)
 

alkemyst

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also these guys/girls that take 15, 18, 21 hour + semesters, even getting deans to sign off to allow it are ruining the whole college experience in a race to get out in real life.

I took my 9 - 12 hour semesters and enjoyed the scenery, I even took all the extras (I have about 200 hours 1 full bachelors and about 12 hours short on another in bio or chem)

If I did my original college term again when I was about 10 years younger I would have done a dual major with one ending in a Master's or Ph.D. Either of those two make you much much more selective than having another .3 or .4 worth of GPA.

Å
 

skywalker66

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Nov 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: BladeWalker
Skywalker,

The problem I see is your requirement to keep a B+ standing for scholarships. I don't know about your school, but at the college I went to we were graded on a bell curve (majority of my classes). Depending on the professor, the mean can range from 2.6 to 3.2 gpa. My major was Mechanical Engineering btw, so it wasn't a walk in the park. There is an incredibility huge gap in terms of the amount of work one must accomplish to get above this mean. I had to make a decision whether 1) I should aim high for 3.6 gpa or higher 2) settle for the mean, aim for a more realistic 3.3. I know a few students who opted for the former and they did NOT have a social life. I chose the latter and had time to enjoy the finer social aspect of college life.

I learned early on that tests and midterms count a lot more than homework. These tests cannot exceed 1 hour, while homework however takes ungodly amount of time to do. The fact that homework solutions are provided means you can study the solutions. I graduated with a 3.0 gpa and did not regret my decision. I enjoyed my college life.

I guess it's a matter of priorities. You have to decide what is more important. If scholarships and grad school are important I suggest you stay on course and study like h*ll. If you want to have a girlfriend, find someone that's gonna be your study partner.

BTW, you're a conservative Christian. Why are you thinking about girls already? Don't tell me you're thinking about sex too. Keep your mind to your studies so you can go to a prestigious Christian grad school. Let your parents set you up with a nice Christian girl so you can marry her after college.

Best of luck.

thinking about girls ALREADY?!?!?

I've gone 20 years of my life without any kind of romantic involvement with women, and heck I wasnt even friends with any girls really, until about a year ago.

I think that it is dumb to think that its too early for me to be thinking about women. Our society is messed up, as people think that you should wait until you are out of college and maybe out of grad school before you should get married.

I think it is VERY LITTLE for me just to ask to get a girlfriend right now.

And no, by the way I am NOT thinking about sex. All I want is to be in a relationship (an emotional lovey dovey one, not a sexual one)

Yea. I too am thinking I am going to have to make some decisions about my priorities and how I can spend less time on school and more time on other things in my life.
I will change schools if I have to. Better to take another semester to graduate because credits didnt transfer smoothly, than to be unhappy all the way until you graduate.
 

skywalker66

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Nov 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: brigden
I really hate to be the barer of bad news, but you're socially retarded, physically unattractive, and generally awkward. Women are not interested in you - period. Your first sexual experience - years of masturbation aside, of course - will likely involve a credit card transaction and/or farm animals.

Do yourself a HUGE favor; stop posting here and start attempting to improve your rather dire situation.

Its not that women are not interested in me, its that I simply am not around them enough because I am too busy. I'm not unattractive and for sure I'm not socially retarded.

I dont post here that often, so I dont see how my posting here is a problem.
 

xXped0thugXx

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seriously sacrifice the 4.0 for a girl... once you start going out and having fun you will realize its worth it.


college years are the best years of your life, dont let them pass you by
 

skywalker66

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Nov 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: xXped0thugXx
seriously sacrifice the 4.0 for a girl... once you start going out and having fun you will realize its worth it.


college years are the best years of your life, dont let them pass you by

ironically its more like a 3.7, lol

I'm not the brightest bulb I guess, either that or maybe my anxieties and thinking and worries are taking up a lot more time than I thought they were. (I thought those things took up time in everyone's life though, I mean how else do you figure things out, and live?)


But you are right, I definately should be enjoying life at this age. And I have a feeling the easiest way of doing that at this point is to take a lighter load, or go to a different school.
 

skywalker66

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Nov 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
How about stop wasting time on here, and just work at school?

I have 392 posts over the last 2 years. Again I wouldnt really say I'm wasting my time on here,

even if those posts are a few paragraphs long
 

BladeWalker

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Aug 31, 2002
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Originally posted by: skywalker66
Originally posted by: BladeWalker
Skywalker,

The problem I see is your requirement to keep a B+ standing for scholarships. I don't know about your school, but at the college I went to we were graded on a bell curve (majority of my classes). Depending on the professor, the mean can range from 2.6 to 3.2 gpa. My major was Mechanical Engineering btw, so it wasn't a walk in the park. There is an incredibility huge gap in terms of the amount of work one must accomplish to get above this mean. I had to make a decision whether 1) I should aim high for 3.6 gpa or higher 2) settle for the mean, aim for a more realistic 3.3. I know a few students who opted for the former and they did NOT have a social life. I chose the latter and had time to enjoy the finer social aspect of college life.

I learned early on that tests and midterms count a lot more than homework. These tests cannot exceed 1 hour, while homework however takes ungodly amount of time to do. The fact that homework solutions are provided means you can study the solutions. I graduated with a 3.0 gpa and did not regret my decision. I enjoyed my college life.

I guess it's a matter of priorities. You have to decide what is more important. If scholarships and grad school are important I suggest you stay on course and study like h*ll. If you want to have a girlfriend, find someone that's gonna be your study partner.

BTW, you're a conservative Christian. Why are you thinking about girls already? Don't tell me you're thinking about sex too. Keep your mind to your studies so you can go to a prestigious Christian grad school. Let your parents set you up with a nice Christian girl so you can marry her after college.

Best of luck.

thinking about girls ALREADY?!?!?

I've gone 20 years of my life without any kind of romantic involvement with women, and heck I wasnt even friends with any girls really, until about a year ago.

I think that it is dumb to think that its too early for me to be thinking about women. Our society is messed up, as people think that you should wait until you are out of college and maybe out of grad school before you should get married.

I think it is VERY LITTLE for me just to ask to get a girlfriend right now.

And no, by the way I am NOT thinking about sex. All I want is to be in a relationship (an emotional lovey dovey one, not a sexual one)

Yea. I too am thinking I am going to have to make some decisions about my priorities and how I can spend less time on school and more time on other things in my life.
I will change schools if I have to. Better to take another semester to graduate because credits didnt transfer smoothly, than to be unhappy all the way until you graduate.

That last paragraph of mine was to poke fun at you. I wasn't serious. 20 is kinda old for not having any kinda of female contact. What ever happened in high school? School functions, proms, etc? BTW, every healthy male members of your age think about sex. It's completely natural.


 

skywalker66

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Nov 5, 2001
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Alright, here's the plan, I'm going to drop a class and go from 17 to 14 credits.

Why? Because I havent done any work in that class, and I have a test tomorrow. And i dont really need to take the class right now, so I might as well withdraw
 

shopbruin

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Originally posted by: skywalker66

I think it is VERY LITTLE for me just to ask to get a girlfriend right now.

i think you're asking for too much. you're not ready for a girlfriend. you're too wrapped up in school and refusing to schedule any other time for anything else. what happened to the weekends? you can study during then... or if you don't... go out! what if you do get a girlfriend? "sorry honey but right now i'm in the middle of this psych lab, but i can schedule you for my 20 min study break in three hours." you WILL have to learn to balance her and school. might as well start now with balancing fun and school. (psst you can study with a girlfriend, hint hint)

it takes time to build a relationship. you need to make that time.

you're surrounded by girls... talk to one RIGHT after class... see what they thought about the lecture, questions, etc. or start talking to them right before lecture starts. the BEST time to meet anyone is right at the beginning of the semester/quarter. halfway through everyone is "settled" and not into "meeting people" mode. at least at the beginning you're all in the same boat, wondering how the prof will be, and discussing your hopes for the class. then build on that.
 

ProUser

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Seriously, you put way too much emphasis on wanting a girl in your life.

If you drop a class to find a girl, I can pretty much guarantee you that you won't find one.

If you drop a class to make more friends, go out more often, and just generally have more of a social life things will work out much better for you IMHO. And your odds of actually meeting a girl are much better then what comes across as your obsession *cough* desperation *cough* with finding a girl.
 

Yossarian

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Dec 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: skywalker66
Alright, here's the plan, I'm going to drop a class and go from 17 to 14 credits.

Why? Because I havent done any work in that class, and I have a test tomorrow. And i dont really need to take the class right now, so I might as well withdraw

why bother, it's not like you're going to use the extra time to meet chicks. either do really well in school and have no life, or suck ass in school and get laid a lot. don't mess up school and STILL be a no-woman loser.
 

skywalker66

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Nov 5, 2001
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Okay,

I'm hearing all of your advice, and I'm trying to be reasonable here...
I have no fears about being the wrong man, or the idiot, so that would not be any reason as why I would ignore your advice.

But quite frankly, I just cannot possibly see the intelligence on giving up on women entirely and waiting for one to come to me.

Nor can I see the intelligence of throwing myself deep into a stack of books for the next 4 years, nor can I see myself ever capable of managing any type of class schedule here that would be economically worthwhile (lotsa credits), that would allow me to have enough of a GPA to keep my scholarship, and allow me to have enough time for hobbies, a social life, and getting a girlfriend (or should I say, loathing women, until one day one just magically falls out of the sky and into my lap)
Basically I see no hope in accomplishing what I want to do at this college, so I think I am going to transfer into a different school for next year.

Yes, I will have to say goodbye to all the hot Christian babes, and all the cool other Christians at the school that I could have a fun time hanging out with,
but,
you can't get everything in life. and some sacrifices have to be made.

(those who think I can get everything, by just making myself become 'more efficient' are just stupid)
 

acemcmac

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Mar 31, 2003
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Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
you know what your problem is?

you do homework

F that.

ROGER!!! :beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:

God, I was thinking the ame thing!
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: PipBoy

why bother, it's not like you're going to use the extra time to meet chicks. either do really well in school and have no life, or suck ass in school and get laid a lot. don't mess up school and STILL be a no-woman loser.

I did well, not 4.0 well, but high enough to be in the 3.0 GPA range. I did mostly other things in school than school itself. Also I knew people with ultra high GPA's that rarely studied and were always out also.

Not everyone can handle college, that's the first issue, but many should be able to juggle a few chicks and 3-4 classes a semester while still maintaining a higher than average GPA to very high GPA.

Å
 

alkemyst

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The real IRONY of college is this:

The guy that was valdictorian, magna cum laude, etc (has to be a good school to really matter though) will usually end up being an excellent right hand man for a CEO, President, owner of a company somewhere. He will be more than likely paid extremely well, but like college...he will still be working his ass off trying to find time for anything, but work.

The guy he works for will more than likely be a 2.5-3.3GPA or worse student, possibly from a very good school, but not necessarily. He will be doing several functions out and about daily/weekly....have a trophy wife or several g/fs, etc. He was the big party guy on campus.

You can't be a screw up....however, social skills and who you know plus how well you keep them entertained plus a little know how = successful businessman. Being a anti-social, worker bee with a lot of know how and not a lot of entertainment value = office worker.

There are exceptions to this, of course, but this is the trends. The guy that made only a sort of B average wasn't less smart than the A student, he just knew there was more to the experience than solely GPA. Many of the people you meet in college will later be in high enough positions where your friendships can make you both money.

Å
 

LordJezo

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Hmm... I think you just suck at college.

I took about 17 credits a semester, had 2 majors, had a job, took summer classes...

Still had tons of time to do just about anything I wanted. Went out, hung out with people, took naps every day, watched TV.

Same with everyone else I knew.. maybe you just need to learn how to manage your time better.