YAGT: *POLL* .44 Magnum or .45?

[JBT]

.44 is way cooler but .45 is probably a better choice.

 

[andylawcc]

ultra n00b question:

how can 0.01 inch difference in the bullet's diameter matter so much?

 

[Shockwave]

Diameter =/ length

 

[Spike]

Big fan of the .45 I had some fun with a small .45 revolver a while back. I am personally a fan of a .40 auto. Was probably the best feeling auto I ever shot.

-spike

 

[Spike]

Originally posted by: andylawcc
ultra n00b question:

how can 0.01 inch difference in the bullet's diameter matter so much?

I don't know a ton about guns myself, but a .44 magnum has a much greater grain weight than a .45. It packs ALOT more kick and the recoil is huge. As others have said, it is very good at punching large holes in things. A .45 is a common size used in some sub-machine guns (H&K use them in their lines) and in autos as it has alot less kick and power. Someone can explain better, I hope.

-spike

 

[Wintermute76]

.45 Colt or .45 ACP?

.45 ACP would be cheaper and more practical, .44 Mag for hunting.
If you get a .454 Casull, you can also shoot .45 Colt, making it cheap, and use full power .454 loads for hunting.

So it really depends what you want to do with it.

I have a Kimber Pro Carry HD II and Ruger KP90 DC in .45 ACP , and Ruger Super Redhawk in .44Mag.

 

[Shockwave]

A .357 can also handle I believe its 38 special loads. Makes a good dual purpose gun as you can shoot cheap .38 ammo then upgrade to the .357 for serious action.

 

[Wintermute76]

Originally posted by: Spike

Originally posted by: andylawcc
ultra n00b question:

how can 0.01 inch difference in the bullet's diameter matter so much?

I don't know a ton about guns myself, but a .44 magnum has a much greater grain weight than a .45. It packs ALOT more kick and the recoil is huge. As others have said, it is very good at punching large holes in things. A .45 is a common size used in some sub-machine guns (H&K use them in their lines) and in autos as it has alot less kick and power. Someone can explain better, I hope.

-spike

Not much diff in grain, I usually shoot 230 gr. in my 45 and 240's in the 44. But the 44 has approx twice the powder charge of the 45 ACP.

 

[Shockwave]

Whats the difference between .45 Colt and .45 ACP?

 

[Wintermute76]

Originally posted by: Shockwave
A .357 can also handle I believe its 38 special loads. Makes a good dual purpose gun as you can shoot cheap .38 ammo then upgrade to the .357 for serious action.

True, I practice with 38's in my SP101 and carry with .357mags.

Also, some .357 Ruger Blackhawks can take a conversion cylinder to shoot 9mm, but I hear accuracy tends to suffer.

 

[Wintermute76]

45 colt is the old cowboy cartridge. a bit longer than the 45 ACP.

45 ACP
45 Colt

 

[Pliablemoose]

500 S&W Magnum

But in my world, you'd buy a 10mm semiauto Glock like a 20C

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: Wintermute76
.45 Colt or .45 ACP?

.45 ACP would be cheaper and more practical, .44 Mag for hunting.
If you get a .454 Casull, you can also shoot .45 Colt, making it cheap, and use full power .454 loads for hunting.

So it really depends what you want to do with it.

I have a Kimber Pro Carry HD II and Ruger KP90 DC in .45 ACP , and Ruger Super Redhawk in .44Mag.

How do you like your redhawk? What barrel length did you go with?

KK

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: Wintermute76
45 colt is the old cowboy cartridge. a bit longer than the 45 ACP.

45 ACP
45 Colt

Interchangable? I'm at work and the firewall seems to think guns are bad mmmmkay....

 

[Wintermute76]

I have the 7.5" (i think, don't remember if they came 7.5 and 9, or 7 and 9.5, and I don't have it handy to check), my buddy has the same, but the target gray and chambered for .454.

I like it, don't get out to shoot it too much but I've been real happy with it.

It does turn heads at the range when I go from shooting my 9mm and 45ACP to the 44

 

[Wintermute76]

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: Wintermute76
45 colt is the old cowboy cartridge. a bit longer than the 45 ACP.

45 ACP
45 Colt

Interchangable? I'm at work and the firewall seems to think guns are bad mmmmkay....

Don't you hate it when that happens..lol

You *can* have a 454 cylinder cut for a moon clip to use 45ACP and still let it headspace 45colt and 454. Other than that, not really interchangeable, the 45acp is geared towards autos and is a rimless case, teh 45colt and 454 are rimmed cases like the 357 and 38.

Naturally there are some exceptions, like my Coonan .357 mag autoloader, and S&W's .45 ACP snubbie revolver.

 

[Cable God]

You pick your .45 (about 800-900FPS). I'll take a hot loaded 10mm any day in a G29. 1450-1600 fps is a lot more shock for stopping power. The 10mm has like a cult following and I can definately say it's for good reason.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: andylawcc
ultra n00b question:

how can 0.01 inch difference in the bullet's diameter matter so much?

The main difference between these two cartridges isnt the diameter, its the mass of the bullet, coupled with the speed it is moving at. A 44 Mag has a lot more powder behind it than a 45 ACP. A heavier bullet moving faster is going to do more damage, all other things being equal.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
500 S&W Magnum

2600 ft/lbs at the muzzle?

:Q

Viper GTS

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: andylawcc
ultra n00b question:

how can 0.01 inch difference in the bullet's diameter matter so much?

Others have said it well, but here's a picture.

Viper GTS

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
500 S&W Magnum

2600 ft/lbs at the muzzle?

:Q

Viper GTS

Yup, it weighs about 4.5lbs when unloaded, and it only holds 5 rounds in the cylinder.

I dont agree with their claim of "A Hunting Handgun For Any Game Animal Walking ", though.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

30-06. People treat you a bit different when one of those is slung over your shoulder

 

[Danman]

Originally posted by: PsychoAndy
.45, but only because i'm cheap

HE HAS RISEN! :Q

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: cablegod
You pick your .45 (about 800-900FPS). I'll take a hot loaded 10mm any day in a G29. 1450-1600 fps is a lot more shock for stopping power. The 10mm has like a cult following and I can definately say it's for good reason.

For self defense that extra velocity can be a problem. It won't stop at walls as easily as a heavier, slower round would. The 30.06 that I had joked about would easily go THROUGH a person, and most likely through the wall behind that person and still have signifigant velocity. Good for hunting, poor for self defence unless your house had 200 yard long hallways. (shotguns work well though)

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: cablegod
You pick your .45 (about 800-900FPS). I'll take a hot loaded 10mm any day in a G29. 1450-1600 fps is a lot more shock for stopping power. The 10mm has like a cult following and I can definately say it's for good reason.

For self defense that extra velocity can be a problem. It won't stop at walls as easily as a heavier, slower round would. The 30.06 that I had joked about would easily go THROUGH a person, and most likely through the wall behind that person and still have signifigant velocity. Good for hunting, poor for self defence unless your house had 200 yard long hallways. (shotguns work well though)

I have the link at home (I've posted it here before), but a 5.56mm round actual is better inside a house than many shotgun loads, in particular 00 buck, in terms on doing less damage to things on the other side of a drywall wall. Plus in general most things that fire the 5.56 NATO give you 30 round magazines