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MongGrel said:
Even a little 410 shotgun with a Rifled Slug will do serious shit, yeah.

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No pattern, it's a rifle at that point of course more or less, but that is the point of Buckshot to begin with.

I still have a couple .357 Magnums with Hollow Points I keep around personally for that use.
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A 410 is great for small critters. Not sure I'd use it for defense ever though. My defense gun remains my .45 Dan Wesson, with the intent being to have a new receiver put on my M1 Carbine (it has a junky Ermas one right now with metal that doesn't test well in hardness) and I'll have more or less a .357 rifle my fiance can easily use.
 
RampantAndroid said:
A 410 is great for small critters. Not sure I'd use it for defense ever though. My defense gun remains my .45 Dan Wesson, with the intent being to have a new receiver put on my M1 Carbine (it has a junky Ermas one right now with metal that doesn't test well in hardness) and I'll have more or less a .357 rifle my fiance can easily use.
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.410 has significantly more muzzle energy than the .45. It may be historically used for smaller critters, but need not be. There are slugs and "defense" loads, which seem like they'd be extremely unpleasant to be hit with: http://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-53-the-taurus-judge-revisited/
 
Blanky said:
.410 has significantly more muzzle energy than the .45. It may be historically used for smaller critters, but need not be. There are slugs and "defense" loads, which seem like they'd be extremely unpleasant to be hit with: http://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-53-the-taurus-judge-revisited/
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I'm not sure I want a shotgun slug for defense. I'm worried about dealing with a perp. I'm also worried about hitting someone through walls, and a slug would likely clear some walls.
 
I actually saw someone open carrying today. Some kid, early 20s, in Walmart had what looked like a Glock 19 or G23 in a holster on his belt. It's the first time I've ever seen anyone open carry here in Colorado. Maybe I just don't get out that much.
 
Carson Dyle said:
I actually saw someone open carrying today. Some kid, early 20s, in Walmart had what looked like a Glock 19 or G23 in a holster on his belt. It's the first time I've ever seen anyone open carry here in Colorado. Maybe I just don't get out that much.
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I could probably count the number of times I've seen someone open carry here in PA on one hand. (really it's probably more, but it's certainly rare)
 
Great news: State Department OKs M1 Garand rifles from Korea

These have been on hold for years; I'm actually surprised the State Dept. has done this. They're still blocked from import because of some ridiculous bullshit, but it's a step in the right direction. I already have a Garand from the CMP but I would love to pick up one more, especially at a low price.
 
clamum said:
Great news: State Department OKs M1 Garand rifles from Korea

These have been on hold for years; I'm actually surprised the State Dept. has done this. They're still blocked from import because of some ridiculous bullshit, but it's a step in the right direction. I already have a Garand from the CMP but I would love to pick up one more, especially at a low price.
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yeah but:
The sad part of the story: the 770,000 M1 Carbines also available for sale in Korea are still banned due to their ability to accept “high capacity detachable magazines.” Which is ridiculous; the CMP has been selling those exact same guns and magazines for decades and shipping them directly to U.S. Citizens without an FFL in between. Not even 922(r) should apply. The guns were made in the United States in the first place.
 
The nice thing about open carry is you can carry concealed and not worry 110% about printing or exposing the weapon. Currently with CCW you are hyper protective of it, or should be.
 
Phoenix86 said:
The nice thing about open carry is you can carry concealed and not worry 110% about printing or exposing the weapon. Currently with CCW you are hyper protective of it, or should be.
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Open carry often is defined to explicitly say you cannot obscure the gun. So I don't know what you're trying to say.

Open carry is needlessly disruptive of society. You don't need to worry about printing too much when concealing. With open carry, people freak out around you. Don't be one of the people who open carries because they:
a.) Want to confront cops
b.) want to show people it can be done
c.) Looking for attention

Open carry in the woods. Conceal carry elsewhere.
 
RampantAndroid said:
Open carry often is defined to explicitly say you cannot obscure the gun. So I don't know what you're trying to say.
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Some states don't (didn't?) allow your gun to be visible at all if during CC. I don't think any were so strict that printing would get you in trouble, but a shirt riding up and showing the grip could do it.
 
Just give me 303 Lee Infield with FN 9mm Hi-Power side arm - Wouldn't mind a Check Z858 and a Browning Auto 5 16 Gauge as a back up.

I'm Canadian and our present Gun Laws make it just about impossible for responsible citizens to own a gun - In Canada, most guns are in the hands of Criminals and Police, not the Bushman.
 
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Changing my mind again, now agonizing over which 9 I want. PPQ M2 vs VP9. Don't have anything from H&K so that's kinda tempting, but honestly the default back strap makes the grip large enough that the trigger guard paddle mag release is a little too far for my thumb to hit without changing my grip. Could use the ambidextrous release on the other side with my dominant index or offhand, but it would definitely take some getting used to. I have some reasonably large hands so this was something I'd never experienced before. Really want to hold the VP9 with the smaller back strap to see how it feels.. The PPQ feels like a dream.

Such similar pistols, I feel like it could go either way. Worried I'd have a small amount of buyers remorse with either purchase. Don't have money for both. :-(
 
I shot a Vickers Glock 19 (first time shooting a Glock) the other day and I was surprised at how light the recoil was. Is this typical of the normal 4 gen Glock 19 also? If so, I am seriously considering getting one.
 
RampantAndroid said:
Open carry often is defined to explicitly say you cannot obscure the gun. So I don't know what you're trying to say.

Open carry is needlessly disruptive of society. You don't need to worry about printing too much when concealing. With open carry, people freak out around you. Don't be one of the people who open carries because they:
a.) Want to confront cops
b.) want to show people it can be done
c.) Looking for attention

Open carry in the woods. Conceal carry elsewhere.
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Which is why I mentioned CCW. Correct me if I'm wrong but if you have your CCW permit AND open carry is legal the printing and brandishing issues are out the window right? If so, you can CCW w/o the fear that someone catching a glance at your weapon will cause a major issue.

While I pretty much support open carry it's not something I'm interested in.
 
Phoenix86 said:
Which is why I mentioned CCW. Correct me if I'm wrong but if you have your CCW permit AND open carry is legal the printing and brandishing issues are out the window right? If so, you can CCW w/o the fear that someone catching a glance at your weapon will cause a major issue.

While I pretty much support open carry it's not something I'm interested in.
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Open carry is also typically unloaded. Not something I'd want to do.
 
Phanuel said:
Open carry is also typically unloaded. Not something I'd want to do.
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I have never heard nor seen anyone openly carry unloaded. In fact, I don't think I"ve ever once heard of anyone carrying that it wasn't loaded. What's the point?
 
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