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pontifex said:
Anyone ever deal with lowpriceguns.com?

Back on New Year's Day my dad found them and saw they had good prices on ammo and had stuff in stock. I did a quick check and found mostly good reviews but there were a few reviews that seemed to indicate they weren't that great.

I looked the other day and all the stuff I was looking at back on 1/1 is now out of stock.
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I've never dealt with them but their prices don't really seem that great. I'd check out the ammoseek/gunbot sites.

Kadarin said:
What not to do in a gun store: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=30b_1421174383
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What kind of stupid shop keeps the guns they're selling loaded like that? I've seen some stupid things but man this is up there.
 
RampantAndroid said:
Technically, replacing the slide on a 1911 isn't advised. Everyone makes their 1911 different than the rest, unless they're following GI spec or Colt specs to the T. A bunch of gun smithing is needed to check spacings and ensure that the spacings are fine and adjust them/refinish it if not (changing a barrel while keeping the same slide/frame also comes with its amount of gun smithing needed.)
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Yeah, I'm kind of familiar. I've built an STI and a Fusion from the ground up before. Over the course of years I've had 10 or so 1911's and most do play well with others, though there are a few that the slide was too loose or tight or the slide stop didn't align correctly. Frame rail length between Commander and Gov't is also different but only slightly. This one seems to work fine although I've only run 2) five round tests. I'll take it to the range next weekend and see how it goes with a thorough exam after cleaning. It isn't my defense gun in either form so reliability isn't my issue. Thanks for the heads up tho.

Edit: In thinking about it my Taurus and my Sig were the ones that didn't play well with others at all.
 
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Jerem said:
Yeah, I'm kind of familiar. I've built an STI and a Fusion from the ground up before. Over the course of years I've had 10 or so 1911's and most do play well with others, though there are a few that the slide was too loose or tight or the slide stop didn't align correctly. Frame rail length between Commander and Gov't is also different but only slightly. This one seems to work fine although I've only run 2) five round tests. I'll take it to the range next weekend and see how it goes with a thorough exam after cleaning. It isn't my defense gun in either form so reliability isn't my issue. Thanks for the heads up tho.

Edit: In thinking about it my Taurus and my Sig were the ones that didn't play well with others at all.
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The sig isn't terribly surprising. As for fit, I have a Dan Wesson CCO (commander/officer - short magazine and grip matched with a shorter slide and barrel. amazing carry piece that aside from my revolvers, is my most reliable gun. In 6-700 rounds it has no FTFs, misfires or FTEs. It's my go to defense gun.) But, being a Dan Wesson that's hand fit and doesn't have any real play between the slide and frame, I would NEVER try another slide on that frame, or another frame with that slide. I'm going to guess that any of the top tier hand fitted 1911s would have issues.

Edit: I'll also guess that putting a series 80 slide on a series 70 frame would not be a working combo due to the extra safeties on the firing pin in the 80? Just a guess though.
 
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pontifex said:
never seen a gun shop where the employee didn't check to see if the gun was loaded, even on a brand new gun.

curious how it got loaded to begin with? If they bought it used, no one checked it out before buying it or even afterwards????
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I've heard of customers chambering a round because they stuck one of their loaded magazines into the gun. Every time I touch a gun I check if it's loaded. If it is, I unload it - period. I then hand the gun back unloaded. I simply refuse to hand around a loaded gun. If only everyone knew the 4 rules...
 
RampantAndroid said:
I've heard of customers chambering a round because they stuck one of their loaded magazines into the gun. Every time I touch a gun I check if it's loaded. If it is, I unload it - period. I then hand the gun back unloaded. I simply refuse to hand around a loaded gun. If only everyone knew the 4 rules...
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Cylinder open for a revolver and slide locked for an auto as soon as it's in my hand...and what kind of idiot pulls the damn trigger with it pointed at their own hand?😕
 
corwin said:
Cylinder open for a revolver and slide locked for an auto as soon as it's in my hand...and what kind of idiot pulls the damn trigger with it pointed at their own hand?😕
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Every shop I've been in has the "aim here to test fire" bulls-eyes at the ceiling level too. I seem to be one of the few people to ask "may I dry fire?" too - I'm always THANKED for asking first.
 
RampantAndroid said:
Every shop I've been in has the "aim here to test fire" bulls-eyes at the ceiling level too. I seem to be one of the few people to ask "may I dry fire?" too - I'm always THANKED for asking first.
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He's damn lucky he ONLY blew his own finger off and didn't hut somebody else...
 
pontifex said:
never seen a gun shop where the employee didn't check to see if the gun was loaded, even on a brand new gun.

curious how it got loaded to begin with? If they bought it used, no one checked it out before buying it or even afterwards????
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Keep visiting gun stores, you'll find lots of careless ones.
 
RampantAndroid said:
The sig isn't terribly surprising. As for fit, I have a Dan Wesson CCO (commander/officer - short magazine and grip matched with a shorter slide and barrel. amazing carry piece that aside from my revolvers, is my most reliable gun. In 6-700 rounds it has no FTFs, misfires or FTEs. It's my go to defense gun.) But, being a Dan Wesson that's hand fit and doesn't have any real play between the slide and frame, I would NEVER try another slide on that frame, or another frame with that slide. I'm going to guess that any of the top tier hand fitted 1911s would have issues.

Edit: I'll also guess that putting a series 80 slide on a series 70 frame would not be a working combo due to the extra safeties on the firing pin in the 80? Just a guess though.
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I put a hand on a Dan Wesson last weekend. Absolutely beautiful gun but out of my price range. I'd imagine you're right about the top tier guns being tightly fitted. I certainly wouldn't play around with that kind of investment.

As for the 70/80 thing, you are right that the 80 slide won't work unless the firing pin block is removed. Not particularly hard to do but then there is a hole left directly in to the firing pin bore that would let powder residue and such up there and be impossible to clean. I would bet someone makes a plug, but I have never seen one. The other way, A 70 slide on an 80 frame is easier. They make spacer kits that replace the levers on the 80 frame. The S&W in my photo is an 80 but with a twist. Instead of the fire control pushing the pin safety, the backstrap safety does.
 
Jerem said:
I put a hand on a Dan Wesson last weekend. Absolutely beautiful gun but out of my price range. I'd imagine you're right about the top tier guns being tightly fitted. I certainly wouldn't play around with that kind of investment.

As for the 70/80 thing, you are right that the 80 slide won't work unless the firing pin block is removed. Not particularly hard to do but then there is a hole left directly in to the firing pin bore that would let powder residue and such up there and be impossible to clean. I would bet someone makes a plug, but I have never seen one. The other way, A 70 slide on an 80 frame is easier. They make spacer kits that replace the levers on the 80 frame. The S&W in my photo is an 80 but with a twist. Instead of the fire control pushing the pin safety, the backstrap safety does.
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DW guns aren't cheap...mine was around $1200 if I remember right. That said, it's an awesome gun capable of more than I am. Other 1911s now just seem silly when I handle them. I truly love the texture on the front and back strap - it isn't stipling, it's something that looks like a chain link fence. Feels great in the hand. The only guns that have a better trigger are my S&W .44 and .41 revolvers in single action.

Interesting on the Series 80 slide/70 frame - I suppose that makes sense. I had considered a series 80 Kimber but opted out when I realized removing the firing pin block left a large whole. I never looked into a plug. My solution was to just get either a Springfield series 70, or this Dan Wesson which is also a series 70 for all intensive purposes.
 
Well picked up the daily PSA complete lower deal today. ACS-L magpul stock with free shipping for $189. Having it shipped to an FFL that does $10 transfers for military, leo or priors. So $200 is a tad more than I wanted to spend, since I wanted originally everything "standardish" in what normally is sold for AR15 lowers. PSA has them for about $150 shipped sometimes, but this was decent enough for a slight butt stock upgrade I decided to go for it.

Let you guys know when it gets here how it is and how everything fits/works.
 
HumblePie said:
cool, I am tempted to do that myself. Just don't have the jig and stuff for it. I found a few deals for in the raw ones, but not sure I want an unandonized one either.
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Zargon said:
same


though I could pretty much get one anondized for free pretty easily
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just get an 80% that's already anodized (which is what i did). the places you machine out are not wear surfaces IIRC (and aluminum is already corrosion resistant).
 
Fenixgoon said:
just get an 80% that's already anodized (which is what i did). the places you machine out are not wear surfaces IIRC (and aluminum is already corrosion resistant).
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Well might still do one in the future with another build. Just picked up that complete lower from PSA for now. One of their 7075 alum forged receivers with all the slightly upgraded magpul accessories. When I look at equivalent prices for buying it all separate, the prices for everything would cost me another $30+ or so from what I paid to have it already together. So doing the super easy build now 🙂 Just matching a complete upper with complete lower and doing it on the very inexpensive side but with top quality parts. Can't complain.
 
Kadarin said:
What not to do in a gun store: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=30b_1421174383
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Well several years ago me and buddy were walking around during a gun show in PA...TX and this gun (seller-dealer) was showing a .45 cal auto to a guy right about the time me and my buddy had walked by... All of the sudden POW...! A large chunk of bullet hit the back of my leg just above my shoe in the area where my jeans and sock were... It hurt like heck and left a bruise but did not break the skin...? We looked and found the chunk of a shell and brought it back to the dealer and the two cops that had come over pretty quick to see what had happened... The guy said he did not know it was loaded and was unloading the gun and thought it was but apparently did not notice 1 round had gotten down in the chamber...? Well guess what it hit ME...! The guy was very sorry it had happened and offered me a bunch of stuff to me I'm to guess keep me from squalling about it but I just shrugged him off and we did the remainder of the gun show... Crazy stuff happens all the time...:\
 
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Got myself a little add-on for my LE6920 I got in a trade a while back, a new Zero Tolerance ZT-9 S30v Bayonet -

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I also bought two new Zero Tolerance folders to go with it, an 0300 Blackwash and a 0301tsst. Both should be perfect for EDC -

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All right, so I'm looking for ideas. If you guys had a maximum of $1000 to spend on a 50-state legal gun (I'm looking for a new job and am casting nets as far as Massachusetts and California), what would you buy?
 
irishScott said:
All right, so I'm looking for ideas. If you guys had a maximum of $1000 to spend on a 50-state legal gun (I'm looking for a new job and am casting nets as far as Massachusetts and California), what would you buy?
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Is the gun for the job and/or for CCW or duty?

If MA/CA were up for consideration I'd personally lean toward ones not hamstrung by the mag restrictions, like a SIG P227.
 
IGemini said:
Is the gun for the job and/or for CCW or duty?

If MA/CA were up for consideration I'd personally lean toward ones not hamstrung by the mag restrictions, like a SIG P227.
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Nah, I'm a software developer. I suppose something that could be used for CCW would be a bonus, but I've got a Sig P238 covering that for the moment.

Honestly I'm kinda interested in everything gun-related to a degree. My gun collection is rather small at the moment, just a Springfield Commander 1911, the P238 and a Marlin Model 60.
 
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