YAGT: OMG I love guns

[rudeguy]

That was the key thing. Rude said he wanted to check out a gun and see if he liked the trigger, and someone said not to worry because you can always have 'trigger work' done. Which yes, you can, and I would generally infer that 'working on' means tweaking existing parts. But that doesn't fix things like excessive takeup or overtravel, uneven pull, ect that will require modding how the action actually functions (geometry, spring strength and whatnot).

I like to fix stuff. Most of these guys have known me for years and they know that I like to go work on my stuff. Hell I taught myself to fix iphones just because I thought it was neat.

We are just giving you shit.

 

[rudeguy]

Sooo...another range trip with the 229. I started off low and left again. I was focusing like hell on not anticipating the shot and was still way low and left.

I stopped and looked at everything I was doing and realized I had a super tight grip with my right hand and both elbows almost locked. I unlocked my arms and held as little pressure as I could with my right hand and things got better. Still not perfect but better.

Here are the two volleys after I adjusted:

 

[Zargon]

That was the key thing. Rude said he wanted to check out a gun and see if he liked the trigger, and someone said not to worry because you can always have 'trigger work' done. Which yes, you can, and I would generally infer that 'working on' means tweaking existing parts. But that doesn't fix things like excessive takeup or overtravel, uneven pull, ect that will require modding how the action actually functions (geometry, spring strength and whatnot).

fair enough, I really meant that he could probably find a trigger setup that works for him

 

[Merad]

It's done! http://imgur.com/a/gT6fb

 

[HybridSquirrel]

Wow this thread is still going? I haven't bought a gun in about a year so I decided to get two. Taurus 85 and an RIA 1911. No pics right now, they're in lock-up while I await my permit to come back.

 

[dabuddha]

It's done! http://imgur.com/a/gT6fb

Beautiful!

 

[CurseTheSky]

It's done! http://imgur.com/a/gT6fb

Awesome job. Looks great!

 

[Tiamat]

Sooo...another range trip with the 229. I started off low and left again. I was focusing like hell on not anticipating the shot and was still way low and left.

I stopped and looked at everything I was doing and realized I had a super tight grip with my right hand and both elbows almost locked. I unlocked my arms and held as little pressure as I could with my right hand and things got better. Still not perfect but better.

Here are the two volleys after I adjusted:

Pretend the trigger is a carrot and you just slowly pull while maintaining the sight picture ~3 second double action pull. The carrot will suddenly snap and you shoot hit exactly where your sights are. Pulling the trigger in this way minimizes all other movement and gets you to really focus on the trigger itself. Also pulling the trigger this slowly at first helps you to notice the micro movements that you accidently do (bad habits) in slow motion allowing you to correct yourself throughout the trigger pull by way of maintaining a perfect sight picture. Eventually your double action pull will drop to one second and better while maintaining excellent accuracy. Anytime you loose accuracy, slow back down to carrot and 3 seconds training-- especially after you shoot a different pistol.

Dunno if you missed my post earlier,but I think you would be greatly served by a walther ppq. It takes the qualities you like in a glock, adds a more comfortable feel in hand, drops the weight of the trigger by 33% compared to g4 Glock 19, and provides a smoother trigger all stock from factory. The sights are easy to replace with night sights.

 

[JackBurton]

Sooo...another range trip with the 229. I started off low and left again. I was focusing like hell on not anticipating the shot and was still way low and left.

I stopped and looked at everything I was doing and realized I had a super tight grip with my right hand and both elbows almost locked. I unlocked my arms and held as little pressure as I could with my right hand and things got better. Still not perfect but better.

Here are the two volleys after I adjusted:

If you ever see me getting attacked by a zombie, please keep walking. I've got this.

 

[rudeguy]

If you ever see me getting attacked by a zombie, please keep walking. I've got this.

I'm a thousand times better with the Glock!

 

[rudeguy]

Pretend the trigger is a carrot and you just slowly pull while maintaining the sight picture ~3 second double action pull. The carrot will suddenly snap and you shoot hit exactly where your sights are. Pulling the trigger in this way minimizes all other movement and gets you to really focus on the trigger itself. Also pulling the trigger this slowly at first helps you to notice the micro movements that you accidently do (bad habits) in slow motion allowing you to correct yourself throughout the trigger pull by way of maintaining a perfect sight picture. Eventually your double action pull will drop to one second and better while maintaining excellent accuracy. Anytime you loose accuracy, slow back down to carrot and 3 seconds training-- especially after you shoot a different pistol.

Dunno if you missed my post earlier,but I think you would be greatly served by a walther ppq. It takes the qualities you like in a glock, adds a more comfortable feel in hand, drops the weight of the trigger by 33% compared to g4 Glock 19, and provides a smoother trigger all stock from factory. The sights are easy to replace with night sights.

Thanks! I am really looking for something full sized and not polymer though.

I ordered some snap caps and NRA qualifications targets. I'm going to figure this out. After adjusting my grip and arms, I did a full mag of DA shots and they were pretty good. When I switched to the normal trigger it was back to the same thing. That short trigger is awesome but I'm having a hard time adjusting.

If I can't get it down with the snap caps, I'm going to take a private lesson from one of the ranges in town. I figure $75 would be worth it.

 

[rudeguy]

MUST RESIST!!!

p938 two tone with laser for only $500...

Not a bad deal. But I heard they weren't very accurate. ..

 

[Zargon]

from who?

any 3" barrel gun with a real caliber in it is going to be hard to shoot

short sight radius and lots of kick

and companies tend to put stiffer triggers in CCW guns

 

[dabuddha]

If you ever see me getting attacked by a zombie, please keep walking. I've got this.

Oh lord that made me LOL

 

[rudeguy]

from who?

any 3" barrel gun with a real caliber in it is going to be hard to shoot

short sight radius and lots of kick

and companies tend to put stiffer triggers in CCW guns

There was a thread in p&n where someone said that and humble said he could hit a nickel at 50 yards with one. Tons of me giving him shit ensued

 

[shortylickens]

from who?

any 3" barrel gun with a real caliber in it is going to be hard to shoot

short sight radius and lots of kick

and companies tend to put stiffer triggers in CCW guns

P238 has a standard 1911 trigger and hammer.

Only thing its missing is the plunger and bushing.

 

[rudeguy]

P238 has a standard 1911 trigger and hammer.

Only thing its missing is the plunger and bushing.

do you think you could hit a nickle at 50 yards with one?

 

[Nebor]

do you think you could hit a nickle at 50 yards with one?

Only if I was an SAS man that used TOR for official comms in Afghanistan and thought guns were for pussies. :biggrin:

 

[shortylickens]

do you think you could hit a nickle at 50 yards with one?

Nope.
Nor could I do that with Mark III and thats a target pistol.

 

[Tiamat]

do you think you could hit a nickle at 50 yards with one?

Sure, just glue 100 Nickels on a target so you can actually see them at 50 yards, aim, and at least one of the nickels will get hit within the ~9" target O

 

[Tiamat]

Thanks! I am really looking for something full sized and not polymer though.

I ordered some snap caps and NRA qualifications targets. I'm going to figure this out. After adjusting my grip and arms, I did a full mag of DA shots and they were pretty good. When I switched to the normal trigger it was back to the same thing. That short trigger is awesome but I'm having a hard time adjusting.

If I can't get it down with the snap caps, I'm going to take a private lesson from one of the ranges in town. I figure $75 would be worth it.

Just take your time and try your best to keep the trigger depressed fully after each shot until you are ready for the next shot. This technique will actually help you for all semi auto handguns. It forces you to think sight picture before trigger finger. Trying to do sight picture and trigger finger at the same time is not going to work and can lead to premature firing before the sight picture is completely restored. Its just gonna take a lot of practice, discipline, and patience. No real shortcuts on the DA/sa trigger :-\

 

[Skel]

I finished my latest AR build. It has the MagTac lower that I'll prob be replacing once I find the Novenske lower to go with the new upper.

With the Colt AR I've had for a while.. I always like to make sure I get the Anarchist Cookbook in the background so the NSA has something to watch me over..

 

[boomhower]

Not a bad deal. But I heard they weren't very accurate. ..

They are extremely accurate, more so the 99% of the shooters holding them. They can just be a bit tough to be accurate with. They have a short sight radius and though it does have a SA trigger it's at around 9#'s. It's a CCW gun, not meant to take headshots at 50 yards.

 

[Nebor]

They are extremely accurate, more so the 99% of the shooters holding them. They can just be a bit tough to be accurate with. They have a short sight radius and though it does have a SA trigger it's at around 9#'s. It's a CCW gun, not meant to take headshots at 50 yards.

#9lb SA trigger? GTFO.

I looked it up, 7.5-8.5lbs. That's ridiculous for a single action with a manual safety. I never liked those guns, and now I like them even less.

 

[rudeguy]

They are extremely accurate, more so the 99% of the shooters holding them. They can just be a bit tough to be accurate with. They have a short sight radius and though it does have a SA trigger it's at around 9#'s. It's a CCW gun, not meant to take headshots at 50 yards.

But humble swears he can hit a nickel at 50 yards with one