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Tiamat said:
Any logic to dripping? I've seen that before too, but I couldn't ever make any sense of why that would be proper. Wouldn't excess lubricant promote caking of the fouling?
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You can run an ar wet and dirty all day long, but dry will lock your ass up...that's the only logic that matters

And I like wet and dirty:awe:
 
I got an m1 carbine and at anything less than 100 yards I can use the iron sights fairly well. But it was always number 2.

Anything more than 100 and of course I need a scope. In fact as lousy as I am I prefer the scope anyway.

I did find a scope that also let me see the iron sights, but it had a messed up crosshair light.
 
shortylickens said:
I got an m1 carbine and at anything less than 100 yards I can use the iron sights fairly well. But it was always number 2.

Anything more than 100 and of course I need a scope. In fact as lousy as I am I prefer the scope anyway.

I did find a scope that also let me see the iron sights, but it had a messed up crosshair light.
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See...I suck with a scope. My depth perception is shit and scopes seemed to make that worse. With sights I have more reference and I do ok.

But that's just another reason I stick to pistols and shotguns.
 
rudeguy said:
See...I suck with a scope. My depth perception is shit and scopes seemed to make that worse. With sights I have more reference and I do ok.

But that's just another reason I stick to pistols and shotguns.
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Im the opposite. I have ok depth perception (though its still subpar compared to normal people) and do better with scopes than with iron sights. Though i need ot practice more with irons on rifles too. But for pistols i can do ok...enough to hit a man in a defense situation (least in theory) but i cant shoot small groups at all. Pisses me off cause ill go with my brother and using my gun and my ammo he will out shoot me at pistols. But we go to rifles and i kick his ass 🙂

Tiamat said:
Any logic to dripping? I've seen that before too, but I couldn't ever make any sense of why that would be proper. Wouldn't excess lubricant promote caking of the fouling?
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I fit is literally dripping oil i think it is just a waste. Oil is just going to go everywhere in the upper and lower receivers. Most people who run wet arent at the dripping i would say but are pretty dang wet compared to most guns.

As for why well i look at the advice of one of the carbine course instructors who is pretty well respected. He put AR failures like this

Magazines - They fail. It happens
Extractors - They wear out/fail
Ammo - Use quality but even then you can have some failures
Lube - RUn it to dry and after 400-500 rounds itll stop functioning as well
 
velillen said:
Im the opposite. I have ok depth perception (though its still subpar compared to normal people) and do better with scopes than with iron sights. Though i need ot practice more with irons on rifles too. But for pistols i can do ok...enough to hit a man in a defense situation (least in theory) but i cant shoot small groups at all. Pisses me off cause ill go with my brother and using my gun and my ammo he will out shoot me at pistols. But we go to rifles and i kick his ass 🙂
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LOL

I know for me, I started with shotguns so that is where I am best. I wouldn't even guess at how many rounds I've fired through one. Pistols are next and I am for sure in the thousands. Rifles? I have maybe shot a couple hundred rounds. My accuracy follows that order. Put a scope on any of those and my brain goes limp. I can't hit a thing unless it's close range.

My goal is six inch groups at 25 yards with a pistol. I am not close to that but I'm getting better. I know I can hit a person at that range but I want more than that.
 
shortylickens said:
I got an m1 carbine and at anything less than 100 yards I can use the iron sights fairly well. But it was always number 2.

Anything more than 100 and of course I need a scope. In fact as lousy as I am I prefer the scope anyway.

I did find a scope that also let me see the iron sights, but it had a messed up crosshair light.
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I started with iron on my AR and refused to even start looking at optics until I was good with them. My thought process at the time was almost all ARs have iron, but you never know what optic someone put on it. I still mostly use iron but have adjusted so I can use optics. I have these currently on my new, in many ways the best of both worlds.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 
Zargon said:
they work good? are they staying zero'd??

I am very interested in how they work out for you
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If you're asking about the iron sites I posted, I haven't had any issues with them. That style is available via a bunch of different manufacturers so like normal ones, some are better than others.
 
Zargon said:
yes...did you post the exact ones you have?
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I do have the ones I posted. I haven't had any problems with them yet.. I also haven't been as hard on them yet.. next week I'm planning on really putting that AR through it's paces so I'll have a better idea then.
 
Have a few questions about AR15:

1. A2 barrel profile vs. M4 barrel profile. What are the differences and which one is better/higher quality?

2. Barrel diameter/gas block/profile. What do they all mean? Bigger/wider is better? For example: .750 vs. .625?

3. Different types of gas system: carbine vs. mid length vs. full rifle. What are the differeces and which is is better/higher quality/more expensive?

4. Barrel length. From 16" to 18" to 20". Which is better or it does not matter?

Whew. So many things to learn about.
 
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Svnla said:
Have a few questions about AR15:

1. A2 barrel profile vs. M4 barrel profile. What are the differences and which one is better/higher quality?
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Do you plan on attaching a grenade launcher to your AR-15? If not, then you don't need the M4 profile.

2. Barrel diameter/gas block/profile. Bigger/wider is better? For example: .750 vs. .625? What do they all mean?
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A heavier barrel (.75 diameter) is supposed to be able to hold up to sustained automatic fire for a longer period of time. But then the entire Vietnam war was fought with lightweight barrels (.625), so there you go.

3. Different types of gas system: carbine vs. mid length vs. full rifle. What are the differeces and which is is better/higher quality/more expensive?
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Carbine is used for the military's M4 and rifle length is for the M16. The mid-length in a 14.5" barrel provides a very smooth and softer shooting experience than a carbine, but the supposed trade-off is that less powerful ammo may not provide enough of a kick to cycle the bolt properly. I've never had any issues with that, though. Rifle-length only comes on 20" barrels. I personally think the mid-length is the way to go (unless of course you get a 20" barrel).

4. Barrel length. From 16" to 18" to 20". Which is better?
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Nobody uses 18". 16" is the minimum legal length for a barrel, but if you permanently attach a muzzle device to a 14.5" barrel it can bring it to a legal 16" and you'll be set. 20" is rifle length and has fallen out of favor by both the military and fans of the AR-15. It provides greater range while shooting, but is more difficult to maneuver otherwise.

Whew. So many things to learn about.
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SaurusX said:
Rifle-length only comes on 20" barrels. I personally think the mid-length is the way to go (unless of course you get a 20" barrel).

Nobody uses 18". 16" is the minimum legal length for a barrel, but if you permanently attach a muzzle device to a 14.5" barrel it can bring it to a legal 16" and you'll be set. 20" is rifle length and has fallen out of favor by both the military and fans of the AR-15. It provides greater range while shooting, but is more difficult to maneuver otherwise.
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This is not totally correct. A rifle-length gas system is available with an 18" barrel in most cases - this (along with increased muzzle velocity) is part of the appeal behind going with an 18" barrel rather than 16". I got an 18" barrel on my JP-15 for this very reason. I will readily admit, though, that I bought my rifle almost entirely as a toy. If I intended to use an AR for a tactical purpose I'd probably go with 16" just because it's a bit easier to maneuver with.
 
Don Vito Corleone said:
This is not totally correct. A rifle-length gas system is available with an 18" barrel in most cases - this (along with increased muzzle velocity) is part of the appeal behind going with an 18" barrel rather than 16". I got an 18" barrel on my JP-15 for this very reason. I will readily admit, though, that I bought my rifle almost entirely as a toy. If I intended to use an AR for a tactical purpose I'd probably go with 16" just because it's a bit easier to maneuver with.
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You can run rifle length on a 16. Its called a dissipator.
 
SaurusX said:
Nobody uses 18". 16" is the minimum legal length for a barrel, but if you permanently attach a muzzle device to a 14.5" barrel it can bring it to a legal 16" and you'll be set. 20" is rifle length and has fallen out of favor by both the military and fans of the AR-15. It provides greater range while shooting, but is more difficult to maneuver otherwise.
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I know a few guys with 18's(and run rifle length gas systems), and they seem popular in 3gun based on reading arfcom, because you get 20" velocity and accuracy out of it

DMs on a small swat team that still have to do close engagement but wanted more accuracy than a 16 or 14.5

one just built a 20" though, and is going to a 14/5 with a pinned compensator to stay legal

you can do 14.5" barrel as long as you pin or weld on a flash-hider that sticks out 1.5" to make it total 16" of length

distance shooters still go 20" barrel, and some guys still build A4 clones

but most tacticool black rifle guys are building 14.5 and 16" to make swat/spec ops style rifle clones
 
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Don Vito Corleone said:
This is not totally correct. A rifle-length gas system is available with an 18" barrel in most cases - this (along with increased muzzle velocity) is part of the appeal behind going with an 18" barrel rather than 16". I got an 18" barrel on my JP-15 for this very reason.
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Zargon said:
I know a few guys with 18's(and run rifle length gas systems), and they seem popular in 3gun based on reading arfcom, because you get 20" velocity and accuracy out of it
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I can't recall ever seeing 18" barrels for sale let alone anyone actually using an 18" barrel, but there you go. There's something for everybody.

but most tacticool black rifle guys are building 14.5 and 16" to make swat/spec ops style rifle clones
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That's right. 😎
 
SaurusX said:
I can't recall ever seeing 18" barrels for sale let alone anyone actually using an 18" barrel, but there you go. There's something for everybody.



That's right. 😎
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damn straight!

my first is a 16"

eventually Ill drop $$ on a LW 14.5 to have a FH pinned on for it

and Ill build a 20" shooter

unless my wife gets super pissy about all the gun spending, then Ill go up to a 18" with the rifle length system I guess
 
Hey SaurusX, thanks for the detailed reply.

I wonder if a civilian can buy a grenade laucher legally? As in pay a lot in fees/taxes/stamps and fill out all the paperwork, like when they want to buy short barrel (10" to 12") guns.
 
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