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The double-stack mag is for a different gun. First half is JHP, rest of mag is loaded with FMJ. I figure if I end up needing a second gun, maybe they're wearing body armor or something. :shrug:

FMJ's aren't going to do a thing for body armor. Pistol rounds don't have the velocity to pierce it. Stick with hollow points and if your hit center mass and they aren't stopping aim for the CNS.
 
FMJ's aren't going to do a thing for body armor. Pistol rounds don't have the velocity to pierce it. Stick with hollow points and if your hit center mass and they aren't stopping aim for the CNS.

The Brady Campaign would like to mention 5.7mmx28 to you 🙂

If your shooting hollow points and the person has body armor on and ISNT slowing down or reeling in pain you have a bigger issue than just switching to FMJ's or even AP rounds. Unlike hollywood most people when shot in a vest are going to pain and most likely drop their gun.

Im honestly more worried about a crack head over a guy in body armor though. And crack heads (as proved by the police) can be shot and just keep going.
 
The 5.7 is HIGHLY overrated. Civilians cant get true armor piercing bullets, and that the only reason any special forces bother to use them.

Shit, it would likely be easier to get proper armor piercing rounds for a rifle like 5.56 or 7.63.
 
It can, with the sort of bullets civilians are unable to access.

A jacketed hollow point in 30-06 is considerably more dangerous to armored police, and easier for people to obtain. Even 18 year olds.
 
Anyone else think its funny that Alky keeps posting even though he doesn't own guns?

I just can't believe that he's in a gun thread, talking about pistols, with CLIPS of ammo.....and that Bartman repeated it! 🙄

I'll give Bartman the reasonable doubt, though, as I'm sure he was using it more sarcastically, than incorrectly. 😉
 
Re: FMJ pistol rounds- I was't being terribly serious. I actually only have one loaded Kahr mag and 7 rounds of Critical Duty (standard 9mm load but 135gr bullets) seems adequate to me.

The other mag is only loaded because it just feels wrong to have multiple guns with multiple mags and not have at least one extra loaded mag. But I'm particular about my 'good' ammo and only fully load mags that I don't intend to empty unless I have to shoot someone. So that other mag is loaded with like, a couple good rounds, then some older JHP rounds that were lying around, then FMJ at the bottom because fuck it, if SHTF enough for me to have emptied one gun and then be emptying a second, I prolly am not gonna feel very picky as long as it goes bang.
 
Late to the nightstand game, but I didn't clean mine out before taking a picture😉
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I just can't believe that he's in a gun thread, talking about pistols, with CLIPS of ammo.....and that Bartman repeated it! 🙄

I'll give Bartman the reasonable doubt, though, as I'm sure he was using it more sarcastically, than incorrectly. 😉

Plenty of gun owners use the word clip in place of magazine.
You wont get killed making that mistake. You wont blow up your gun. You wont lose your concealed carry permit, nor your marksman ship ribbon.
Its just as anal retentive as correcting someone on lightning vs. thunder. It doesnt fucking matter and you are a douche canoe for even bringing it up.

If you wanna piss and moan about Alkymessed, theres PLENTY of other good material to choose from.
 
G/f and I went to the range today for a couple of hours and threw 200rds of .45ACP downrange through my 1911 and had a great time... But I also brought my new S&W 500 Magnum and fired it for the first time.

Holy shitballs that thing's insane. I was nowhere near accurate with it, but damn did it ever make a loud bang. 🙂
 
I just can't believe that he's in a gun thread, talking about pistols, with CLIPS of ammo.....and that Bartman repeated it! 🙄

I think it's even more obvious when I posted about the LCRx (Ruger LCR with exposed hammer), and Alky said it was a bad idea because I'd have to cock the hammer between shots. 😀
 
I don't have a gun in the nightstand right now, but a biometric safebox on the nightstand. Otherwise it's one extra step to open the drawer to get to the gun. So nightstand pics from me. That and you guys wouldn't want to see the box of condoms in there anyhow.

Side note, you have a chance to try out that Canik yet Corwin?
 
G/f and I went to the range today for a couple of hours and threw 200rds of .45ACP downrange through my 1911 and had a great time... But I also brought my new S&W 500 Magnum and fired it for the first time.

Holy shitballs that thing's insane. I was nowhere near accurate with it, but damn did it ever make a loud bang. 🙂

Haha nice. I have held one of those at Cabelas. It looks like a cartoon gun lol
 
Haha nice. I have held one of those at Cabelas. It looks like a cartoon gun lol

No this is a cartoon looking gun...

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The S&W 500 is big, but still a little bit smaller.

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Is it me or is there something with that first pic here with how that woman is holding the end of that gun? 😀
 
I went to a gun show this weekend, $7 to get in.

Very much everything were about the same or more expensive than the big box places such as WalMart/Academy.

9 mm brass were over $.3 per round, .223/5.56 were about $.5 per round. Don't let me start with .22LR. A few no name stripped AR15 receivers for over $50. A dealer had so many ammo in boxes, I wonder how much he paid for gas/transportation because those suckers would be pretty heavy.

The only thing that I saw was a bit cheaper was handguns at a dealer. I saw that he had Glock 26 and 27 Gen4 for $520 plus sale tax. Beretta Nano was less than $400. Not bad at all. Oh, and I also saw that huge gun like you guys are talking about. I think it was a S&W revolver for over $1K. I did not buy anything.

I am curious, why would anyone want to buy things at the gun shows? Do you guys have better luck at your locations?
 
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I went to a gun show this weekend, $7 to get in.

Very much everything were about the same or more expensive than the big box places such as WalMart/Academy.

9 mm brass were over $.3 per round, .223/5.56 were about $.5 per round. Don't let me start with .22LR. A few no name stripped AR15 receivers for over $50. A dealer had so many ammo in boxes, I wonder how much he paid for gas/transportation because those suckers would be pretty heavy.

The only thing that I saw was a bit cheaper was handguns at a dealer. I saw that he had Glock 26 and 27 Gen4 for $520 plus sale tax. Beretta Nano was less than $400. Not bad at all. Oh, and I also saw that huge gun like you guys are talking about. I think it was a S&W revolver for over $1K. I did not buy anything.

I am curious, why would anyone want to buy things at the gun shows? Do you guys have better luck at your locations?

That's how gun shows are mostly. Overpriced snake oil shows.
 
edit: I dunno if it would be consistent, but I'd think some JHP rounds would be very hard if not impossible to match to a barrel. At most, they could say how many grooves the barrel had, but I don't think they'd get the twist or anything that would really be a strong link to a certain gun. /speculation

I'd definitely advise not murdering anyone with something with polygonal rifling. That seems like it would make matching to a make/model much easier, given the limited pool of candidates.

Having sat through several murder trials as a juror, they match guns to the fired casings found at the scene. They don't match to the bullets. They're usually way too mangled from impacting with wood, metal, or concrete. And they don't look at all like the comparisons you see on CSI.
 
Having sat through several murder trials as a juror, they match guns to the fired casings found at the scene. They don't match to the bullets. They're usually way too mangled from impacting with wood, metal, or concrete. And they don't look at all like the comparisons you see on CSI.

But batman can find finger prints on them!!
 
Speaking of which, quite a bit of "crime scene forensics" has always been pseudo science. It was science concocted by FBI police to teach to regular police to get more convictions. Very little of it was peer reviewed or tested through a normal scientific process.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...justice-dept/2012/04/16/gIQAWTcgMT_story.html

Especially when it comes to crap like "ballistic" forensics. It's all horse garbage. As many cases that managed to save DNA evidence for later testing has used DNA to prove the outcome of "who done it" quite a bit differently that stupid shit like ballistic or bite mark testing or some other crap.
 
I went to a gun show this weekend, $7 to get in.

Very much everything were about the same or more expensive than the big box places such as WalMart/Academy.

9 mm brass were over $.3 per round, .223/5.56 were about $.5 per round. Don't let me start with .22LR. A few no name stripped AR15 receivers for over $50. A dealer had so many ammo in boxes, I wonder how much he paid for gas/transportation because those suckers would be pretty heavy.

The only thing that I saw was a bit cheaper was handguns at a dealer. I saw that he had Glock 26 and 27 Gen4 for $520 plus sale tax. Beretta Nano was less than $400. Not bad at all. Oh, and I also saw that huge gun like you guys are talking about. I think it was a S&W revolver for over $1K. I did not buy anything.

I am curious, why would anyone want to buy things at the gun shows? Do you guys have better luck at your locations?


Good question. I had a similar experience a few years ago going to a couple gun shows. The pricing was so silly I havent been back to a single show. 5.56\.223 can be bought at Cabelas for as cheap as .45\round for brass. And when on sale it will dip to .35.

I'd imagine Walmart, Fleet Farm, ect would be about the same or better.
 
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