shortylickens
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watch Quigley Down Under with tom selleck and alan rickman. the sharps lever action .45-110 is the star of the movie.
Its an awesome gun thats for sure. But expensive to get too. 3200 for the Quigley model, with the other base models still being around 2k
That and the 45-110 is an odd round anyways. Made for black powder so bit harder to reload for now a days. Even now a days the case is considered to big for modern smokeless powders so most use black powder in it.
The 45-70 was a great round capable of extreme distances as well. Read the Sandy Hook trails if you want. It was capable of shooting 2 miles and still having enough force to kill/wound. All this done in the 1870's with no scopes and no fancy equipment modern long range shooters get to use. Granted their accuracy was also kinda meh as they only hit the targets 5 times in 70 rounds in some of the tests
http://www.researchpress.co.uk/longrange/sandyhook.htm
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Brigandier
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Picked up the ruger LC9 today, already had the ruger LCP but the wife going to take that one over. They had NO 380 ammo and one only a few boxes of federal home defense 9mm so I got one box just so I can shoot it a few rounds at least...
shortylickens
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The LC9 only fits in your pocket if you are hideously fat and wearing super baggy jeans.
lol pretty true. The LCP is a perfect pocket gun, LC9 a bit big for true pocket fit.
gorobei
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most of the buffalo hunters didnt have to shoot that far. everyone figured out really quickly that if you dont move at all and stay in your decoy-buffalo hyde blind you can shoot all day and the herd wont bat an eye when the cow next to them drops to the ground. take a single step towards them and the herd will stampede. so they just shot a couple dozen and waited a few hours until the herd moved on to collect the multiple carcass.
shortylickens
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I love my LCP. It doesnt have the stopping power or accuracy of larger guns but it handles nicely and goes anywhere. I was also able to find a tiny vault for my car, so I can keep it safe when in school.
pontifex
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LOL! wasn't it a Sharps rifle?
went to a range i belong to a few months back and there was an elderly gentleman shooting several western firearms (lever actions, single action revolvers, etc). He participated in the local SASS club. He had a reproduction Springfield Trapdoor Carbine in .45-70 and he let me shoot it. I had never been really been interested in anything of that era besides the lever action rifles and single action revolvers, but that thing was cool and fun to shoot. I would like to get one of those (repro) but they are expensive.
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IGemini
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Three months later, FINALLY got to the range to break in my SIG SP2022 9mm. I think I was the last one to get in before closing, otherwise people would be shooting less than the allowed time.
"To hell and back reliability?" Check. 115gr American Eagle FMJ, 124gr Hornady TAP, 147gr Winchester Ranger Bonded JHP, it fed all of it flawlessly. It wasn't really a "true" break in, only had a little over 200 rounds to work with, and didn't want to shoot all of my defense ammo obviously. Probably only fired 160 rounds since I ran out of time. I think it might like the 115gr ammo the least, though. The JHP rounds were quite accurate.
I intentionally make it harder on myself when I shoot: I drink a good amount of coffee beforehand and it doesn't matter how much I look forward to target practice, my hands ALWAYS shake as much as they probably would in a high-tension situation. Still end up putting better than 90% of the rounds on targets half the size of a human, and I don't really take my time. 66% with this one at 15 yards. I won't always put rounds through the same hole, but I can usually hit what I shoot which is a basic need in self-defense.
Almost considered picking up either a Ruger LC9 or Keltec PF-9 since the store had both, but there wasn't any time left to try getting one.
"To hell and back reliability?" Check. 115gr American Eagle FMJ, 124gr Hornady TAP, 147gr Winchester Ranger Bonded JHP, it fed all of it flawlessly. It wasn't really a "true" break in, only had a little over 200 rounds to work with, and didn't want to shoot all of my defense ammo obviously. Probably only fired 160 rounds since I ran out of time. I think it might like the 115gr ammo the least, though. The JHP rounds were quite accurate.
I intentionally make it harder on myself when I shoot: I drink a good amount of coffee beforehand and it doesn't matter how much I look forward to target practice, my hands ALWAYS shake as much as they probably would in a high-tension situation. Still end up putting better than 90% of the rounds on targets half the size of a human, and I don't really take my time. 66% with this one at 15 yards. I won't always put rounds through the same hole, but I can usually hit what I shoot which is a basic need in self-defense.
Almost considered picking up either a Ruger LC9 or Keltec PF-9 since the store had both, but there wasn't any time left to try getting one.
http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/ar...wn-under-sharps-rifle-45-110-34-in-as240.html
If I were to get an old replica, it would be a conversion revolver. The look of the old revolvers, with the convenience of cartridges.
http://www.uberti.com/firearms/army-navy-conversion-and-open-top.php
http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/conversion-revolvers.html
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pontifex
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found something kind of interesting...
http://www.usfirearms.com/
was actually looking up Springfield Trapdoor rifles and I had a link to a site that used to be for old west firearms but now seems to be something completely different.
First I ever heard of this. Not really sure the practicality of it though.
They show it being used like an m203 on SCARs and M4s but why would you want a .22 LR short barrel firearm on your rifle? what use would that be?
$219 with a 25 rd mag, so it's not expensive.
http://www.usfirearms.com/
was actually looking up Springfield Trapdoor rifles and I had a link to a site that used to be for old west firearms but now seems to be something completely different.
First I ever heard of this. Not really sure the practicality of it though.
They show it being used like an m203 on SCARs and M4s but why would you want a .22 LR short barrel firearm on your rifle? what use would that be?
$219 with a 25 rd mag, so it's not expensive.
Jeeebus
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ehh, My PM9 fits pretty easily in wide pocket shorts. Wouldn't consider myself a fatty... just need the right shorts for the job (I think I've work jeans maybe three times in the last two years).
The thing is, even if you thought it was useful, you need a short barrel rifle permit to attach it to a rifle, shotgun, or stock. So the $200 tax, wait, paperwork, and restrictions to use it that way, kills the deal.
irishScott
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Whats the deal with not having a barrel under a certain length for a rifle? I dont get it. Is there like a no barrel zone from a certain amount (low end) to another amount (high end)?
The NFA act of 1934 was designed to target the weapons of gangsters and bank robbers, who favored, among other things, short-barreled sub-machine guns. It was originally decided that 18" was the minimum non-concealable barrel length for a rifle. In 1960, it was amended to 16".
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IGemini
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^^No length limit for pistols besides what a person can actually handle. The distinguishing factor between pistols and rifles is if it has a stock. That's why you see some "pistol rifle" models like the SIG 556P or any of the ARs with that unsightly stick handle. Slap a stock on it and you have an SBR and a bunch more hoops to jump through (not in that order).
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All considered that's pretty good. Best prices online are 60 cents per round, for reloads.
I've always liked the AUG, and I've always wanted one. I have no other reason why I want one but I do. They're pretty pricey though ($2K+) and not lefty friendly (major minus for me). Other options are F2000 and the new Tavor, but neither are as cool IMO.
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