YAGT-is this the end?

johnjohn320

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I cut back on YAGTs for some time, but I need to vent my thoughts somehow, thanks for bearing with me:

I've been dating my girlfriend for just under a year now. It's been amazing, the best time of my life, really. We were sort of one of those "jointed at the hip" couples that did nearly everything together. But about a month ago (little less), changes started happening. She seemed distant, less affectionate, no longer as excited to see me or hear from me. I don't know how to describe it really, but there was just no excitement in her eyes anymore. We talked about it, and for a short while everything was good again. The excitement was back, and I thought "rough patch conquered."

Not too long later though, she went back to seeming distant, etc, and seemed to be just much less eager to see me. Now see, there's this guy (you knew this was coming), we'll call him Bob. Bob and my gf were good friends as really little kids, and somehow they struck up conversation again and began hanging out. I met him recently, here's the story with that: She and I hung out one day, then a buddy of mine came out to see a concert that evening. He and I went to the concert, she said she didn't really feel up to going, just wanted some "alone time" to get some work done and whatnot. I went to the concert with my friend, and she picked me up afteward-with Bob. Apparently she really did spend 'alone time' for most of the time, but shortly before she left to come pick me up, Bob called, and so yeah. Anyway, the 3 of us (my friend went elsewhere) hung out at her house for awhile, and no problems, Bob seems really nice, etc. Eventually Bob says he needs to leave, and my gf goes through her whole "oh, do you have to? can't you just stay a little bit longer? Play one more round?" (we were playing cards). I was oddly reminded that this is how she used to act toward me when I was over and had to leave.

Anyway, Bob insisted and left anyway, and went home. She and I hung out for literally about 5-10 mins longer, before she told me she was really tired and that I should probably go home. Ouch. I didn't put up a fuss that night, but I told her the next day that that whole sequence of events had really hurt my feelings. This led to a big, tear-filled conversation on her couch about how sorry she was, she just 'wasnt thinking' and didnt think about how hurtful that must've been, she still loved me, can I please forgive her, etc. Mind you in that conversation we just talked about everything, not just the deal with Bob the previous night, but our whole relationship.

Once again, I just accepted it. We were back to normal again. We went on probably the funnest date we ever had that night, and she was her old self again, romantic, sweet, everything.

Fast-forward to last night (only a few days). I hadn't seen her since aforementioned fun date, so I called her and asked if she wanted to go out after work. "I dunno, I'm not sure what's going on tonight, I have some stuff to get done but I'll get back to ya." She called later from her house, (when it was a little too late for us to get together, since we live 30 mins apart), and I just gathered that since it was so late and she'd been working on that stuff that whole time that we weren't able to get together that night. Around 11:00 she says she has to go. Around 12:30am or so, she calls again, and lo and behold, she's on her way home from Bob's house (he literally lives down the street from her).

I confronted her. I asked her what her feelings were for Bob, and she said, after a long pause, "I don't know. Sorry, I know that's not what you wanted to hear, is it?" I ask her if she has romantic feelings for Bob, and she starts crying and says "I don't know, I'm so sorry. I just don't know." We talked a long while last night, but at any rate, she's coming over tonight after a rehearsal (ends at 10 pm), and we're going to talk.

I came really close to breaking up with her last night, but I just couldn't for some reason. I still love her, I still care about her so much, and I know (seriously) that she still cares deeply about me. But, tonight I'm afraid I have to put up the ultimatem. I refuse to just stand by or be patient and wait while she figures out whether she has feelings for someone else.

:( This hurts so much. Thanks for letting me vent.

edit-i forgot to mention, Bob *does* have a crush on her. He finally admitted it to her, she tearfully admitted it to me. :(
 

johnjohn320

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Originally posted by: isekii
Did Bob hit it ?

If you're asking if she's been cheating on me, I really strongly 100% believe the answer is no. It's hard to explain why, but I just know.
 

pkananen

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love is not always an emotion, its a choice. Do you two value commitments? I know that for myself, I will not get romantically involved long term unless a finding out if a commitment (as in heading towards marriage) is our goal, and when I find out, I intend to work towards that.

If commitment is not your foundation, someday, both she and you will probably fall in love with someone more than each other. On that day, love becomes a choice more so than an emotion.
 

yllus

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I ask her if she has romantic feelings for Bob, and she starts crying and says "I don't know, I'm so sorry. I just don't know."
She knows, and we all know it. She just wants to spare your feelings.

Sounds like a nice, thoughtful girl though. She was as upfront with what was going on as could be expected under the circumstances. You're most definitely headed for a breakup, but I hope she somehow comes back to you in the end. Good luck.
 

johnjohn320

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Originally posted by: yllus
I ask her if she has romantic feelings for Bob, and she starts crying and says "I don't know, I'm so sorry. I just don't know."
She knows, and we all know it. She just wants to spare your feelings.

Sounds like a nice, thoughtful girl though. She was as upfront with what was going on as could be expected under the circumstances. You're most definitely headed for a breakup, but I hope she somehow comes back to you in the end. Good luck.

I know. She's always been completely honest with me at every turn, which I appreciate. Is it just me, or is losing your gf to another guy the most painful, conceivable way to lose her? (short of death) I'd rather she leave me for ANY other reason, any shortcoming of my own, than because she wants to be with someone else.[me thinks back to the book "High Fidelity"] :brokenheart:
 

BD2003

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Its over dude.

Regardless of whether or not anything happens with Bob or not, there is one simple fact. She is either too young or too stupid to realize that she cant have her cake and eat it too. From what I can tell, youre both very young, and I KNOW that this is the last thing you want to hear....but you'll be fine.

In the end, ask yourself if you want to be with someone who could see the possibility of being with someone else, and is willing to put him b/w the two of you like that. Thats not devotion.

Trust is not eternal. It is something that is earned. It is something that can be abused, and she is doing so. I know I how feel for my gf, and I would never abuse the trust between us for any stupid girl. There is a line that is very clearly visible, and Im not going to feed my gf BS about how me and some female are just friends, when I know damn well deep inside that Im not.

Probably why I dont have female friends anymore. :)

Good luck man, just DONT LET HER WALK ALL OVER YOU. BE A MAN!
 

Whisper

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What's most likely going through her head is that she's confused because: a) she has feelings for this Bob guy, but b) she still cares about you, and doesn't know why she's having feelings for Bob. She doesn't know if she should try things out with him, or stick it out with you...though it seems like she's already leaning towards the former.
 

ucdbiendog

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cliffs notes please.
sounds pretty lame. props to you for giving the ultimatem. goodluck

ps i hate my keyboard
 

notfred

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In this case, "I don't know" menas "yes, but I feel like I shouldn't because I'm seeing someone else", someone else being you, of course.
 
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I would have to agree that its close to being over.

Her actions definately hint at something on her side, some sort of "attraction", espcially since she did cover herself. However then she could just be really really happy to see this childhood friend and she just wants to catch up. While they were kids, maybe she had a crush on him, and now that bob is available and he told her of his crush, chances are she might be going for that.

I would say, let her do all the talking, and help her figure it out.

Goodluck buddy.
 

dirtboy

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The solution is simple, because if she wants to give things a shot with Bob she will break up with you even though she loves you.

So here's what you do...

Tell her that you understand she's not sure about Bob and that is causing problems between the two of you. Tell her you are okay with her seeing Bob, so long as she doesn't get intimate with him. That way she has the opportunity to go out with him and see if there is actually something there.

Then tell her if after a couple weeks she'd rather be with Bob, that you will let her go, even though it will hurt you. If you are better than Bob, she'll return to you.

Of course I don't know how old either of you are, but it is natural for young people to want to experience many other people just to know for sure what they have is what they want.
 

imported_FishTaco

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Break up with her, but be nice about it. That's what she wants you do. She might say that she doesn't want to break up to be nice, but her actions clearly show she has feelings for Bob.

Best to just have a nice mutual break up. Don't blame Bob, that'll just make you look jealous and immature. You both know why you're breaking up, so its better to pretend that the two of you just grew apart or something to that effect.
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: dirtboy
The solution is simple, because if she wants to give things a shot with Bob she will break up with you even though she loves you.

So here's what you do...

Tell her that you understand she's not sure about Bob and that is causing problems between the two of you. Tell her you are okay with her seeing Bob, so long as she doesn't get intimate with him. That way she has the opportunity to go out with him and see if there is actually something there.

Then tell her if after a couple weeks she'd rather be with Bob, that you will let her go, even though it will hurt you. If you are better than Bob, she'll return to you.

Of course I don't know how old either of you are, but it is natural for young people to want to experience many other people just to know for sure what they have is what they want.

He might as well turn in his man card and dick if he goes that route. He isnt a toy to be played with.