YAGT: How can I help my "first flame," six years later?

MemoryInAGarden

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I met this person six years ago when I started high school. She was literally one of the first people I saw, was wearing a mini-skirt that showed off her legs, and I thought, "I gotta have her!" She was into drinking, smoking, and raising hell, and didn't give me the time of my day romantically. I was basically used, and was pretty bitter about this for several years. I lost contact with her after my sophomore year of high school until this summer. FYI, I'm twenty and she's twenty-two.

She messages me out of the blue on Myspace and I fail to recognize her. It turns out she lost a lot of weight, got married, and had a baby. I started talking to her and realized that she had changed from the party girl she used to be. She's a stay at home mom now.

She was diagnosed with colon cancer near the end of last year, and had been out of work since she had her child about a year before that. Her prognosis is good, but the medical bills are way beyond what they could ever pay. They were having trouble just making ends meet as it was before she got sick (especially with her out of work), so her husband takes on even more responsibility.

Their relationship hasn't seemed all that strong. She rarely talks about him, but he's always working hard to pay the bills so he's not home with her and the baby much. They see each other for maybe one or two hours per day, and she even sleeps in the room with the baby, not with him. He also wanted to have another child as recently as last summer, but her father died of colon cancer as well, and she had her tubes tied because she wouldn't want to pass this gene on. I don't think all of this has hit him yet, but when it does it will probably devastate him.

In addition, her husband's ex is trying to be friendly to her, presumably to get her to take "her eye off the ball" while the ex steals away the man. When they first got together, she caught him sending racy emails to this woman. If he hadn't cheated, he was at least thinking about it. Their relationship was fresh and untested then. What's to think he wouldn't be thinking about it now since things have gone downhill?

What I'm concerned about is whether or not he'll want some fun on the side with his wife being sick and him working so hard. The ex is more attractive than his wife, and with his stress level from the workload, bills, illness, and baby, it doesn't seem all that unreasonable that he'd sleep with her to find a little escape from it all.

They also don't have the means to do even simple things, like going out for a movie and dinner. She said they got a sitter and went out Saturday for the first time in two years. I eat out several times a week and just take it for granted.

I've been wanting to see a friend of mine at his church. I'm an atheist, and always manage to talk myself out of going. She's religious and looking for a new church, so I offered to take her with me Wednesday night. She was telling me today that she wanted a steak but hadn't had one in awhile, so I was thinking about buying her dinner. Several of her friends have organized a fundraiser for her this month and they aren't too well off, so they couldn't give much. I have a bit more money, so I was thinking about giving her $500-$1000 to help out. Would this look way out of line if everyone is chipping in tens and twenties and I hand her a few Benjamin's discreetly?

I feel sorry for her, still care a lot for her, and she's giving me the benefit of the doubt these days. She's grown-up a lot since she was sixteen. We talked for three hours on the phone today without a second thought. I want to help, but I don't want to wreck her marriage (which may blow up under the circumstances) or get too tangled up in this too quickly.

Cliffs:

1) I met a girl in high school, like her, we never hit it off. Met up with her last year, we start talking, and become close friends again even though she's now a married, stay at home mom. I'm 20 and she's 22.

2) She was diagnosed with colon cancer this winter, creating even more financial stress (and otherwise) on her husband when he's already overworked.

3) The relationship doesn't seem strong, they're poor, and I want to help, but don't want to be seen as a homewrecker.









 

spidey07

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RUN FOREST! RUN!

This has disaster written all over it. Seriously think about it. Nothing good can come from having ANY conversation with this train wreck.
 

DaShen

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No good can come of this.

If you really want, you can try to become friends with the husband and work from there, but otherwise, sometimes it is best to step away from a situation even if it is extremely hard to do.
 

NuroMancer

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Originally posted by: spidey07
RUN FOREST! RUN!

This has disaster written all over it. Seriously think about it. Nothing good can come from having ANY conversation with this train wreck.

I agree with Sir. Spidey.
 

SViper

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Originally posted by: MemoryInAGarden
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I was basically used, and was pretty bitter about this for several years.
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Are you sure you aren't fostering a repeat experience with her again? If she is not in a good relationship like you say, she is just reaching out for any escape she can find. This thread reminds me of several of other threads I have read on ATOT that have one thing in common: The e-mail/call/text/whatever "out of the blue."

I think you would be making a big mistake by getting too involved in this.

 

PricklyPete

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This sounds like I'm being an ass...but step away. Sympathize with her, but don't attempt to fix her problems...it will be on going and before you know it you'll be knee deep and in a much more difficult position.

Be friends...but keep your distance. If her husband is working his ass off to make things meet...it will look awfully suspicious to be taking his wife out exclusively for steak and a movie.

Sounds like trouble to me.

Honestly, from your post, it sounds like you have some interest left in her...that will only lead to problems.
 

imported_Imp

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Originally posted by: MemoryInAGarden
I met this person six years ago when I started high school. She was literally one of the first people I saw, was wearing a mini-skirt that showed off her legs, and I thought, "I gotta have her!" She was into drinking, smoking, and raising hell, and didn't give me the time of my day romantically. I was basically used, and was pretty bitter about this for several years. I lost contact with her after my sophomore year of high school until this summer. FYI, I'm twenty and she's twenty-two.

Answered your own question. Point-being: people don't change, they put on a nice sugarcoat, but when the s*it hits the fan, back to square one. This had 'usery' written all over it before I reread the post and snipped that line out. Honestly, you're only 20 and she's 22, don't see how you should get involved in any way. Oh, and you're right, you will be a homewrecker.
 

brandonb

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If her husband wanted to bail, I'm sure he could have by now. He's atleast trying, and hasn't bailed yet.

To have you come in and do anything would only cause trouble.

Donate your $20 and leave it at that...

It's not your place to be the knight in shining armor.

Find another chick, hopefully unmarried, to spend your Benjamin's on.
 

MemoryInAGarden

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Originally posted by: Viperoni
So you like being used?

RUN.

The thought of being used, even if it was only for minor things, was unsettling. She HAS apologized for things back then, and has shown nothing but selfless behavior to me and other people. I don't think she has bad intentions this time.

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I don't get it... did you date in high school or not?

We didn't. I wanted to, but she would hardly give me the time of day unless she wanted something. And she hasn't apparently told her hubby all of the stuff that she was involved with then. She had a reputation for being wild, admitted some of it to me, but never let him know.
 

zinfamous

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First off: Shens

Second: the first 2 paragraphs of your post explain why you need to stay the f*** away. as others have said here...
 

yowolabi

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Put up a poll and you'll see the rare 99% landslide.


GTFO.

Please do. You can even make the options: 1. Try to help this poor woman 2. Run away!


It sounds like you couldn't have her when she was hot and desirable, and now that she had all her fun you're willing to have the crumbs. The only explanation is that you're very naive or very desperate.

If this was a good friend that you had for the whole time, I would still tell you that you can't do anything that would help her. This is her life and her problems, and she has to solve them on her own. All she can do is drag you down too.

 

dirtboy

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She used you then and she's going to use you again. Change your name to 'doormat' because apparently you like people stepping all over you.
 

sixone

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YOU

CAN

NOT

RESCUE

HER.

She's a grown woman, and she needs to figure out her own life. Otherwise, she'll repeat the same mistakes with you. You have a big heart, and it's wonderful of you to want to help, but you're not in control of her life - nor should you be.

If you want to add some money to the pot, go ahead. Just don't tell her what you put in. And don't expect anything back for it.
 

MemoryInAGarden

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Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Best thing you can do for her is
go after the husbands ex!

She's cute, but one of the men she was with now has chlamydia. Go figure that one out.

Originally posted by: sixoneYou have a big heart, and it's wonderful of you to want to help, but you're not in control of her life - nor should you be.

I'm only a sucker for less than five people. The rest of the world be damned.
 

Geocentricity

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Originally posted by: MemoryInAGarden
Originally posted by: Viperoni
So you like being used?

RUN.

The thought of being used, even if it was only for minor things, was unsettling. She HAS apologized for things back then, and has shown nothing but selfless behavior to me and other people. I don't think she has bad intentions this time.


You must be shrooming! There was no foundation of trust since the beginning when you two had that "fling". No matter how selfless or 'good' she presents herself right now, the lack of a well-grounded relationship before and her wanting to open up now is highly suspicious and, pardon me being blunt, desperate.

RUN.

DON'T LOOK BACK UNLESS YOU WANT TO BE TURNED INTO A PILLAR OF SAND.