YAGT - handgun for wife

[Nebor]

Clearing drills and locking slide open and checking. A defense weapon needs to be able to quickly deal with a problem IMHO.

Plus that whole loading it thing.

When I load a new mag I drop the slide manually, by pulling back on it. Gross motor skills are more enduring under pressure than fine motor skills (hitting the slide release catch.) I was taught this years ago at an offensive handgun course, but over time I've come to believe in it less and less. I'm just used to it now. :\

 

[guskline]

My wife carries the S&W 351PD - the link
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...57768_757767_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

It's a 22 mag 7 shot. I have a Charters Arms Bulldog .44 spl. We both recently took the NRA handgun safety course (well worth it!) and qualified. We both have carry permits. My advice. Have your wife take the NRA course and have some range instruction. My wife tried a number of revolvers and semi-autos. Price was not a factor, rather her ability and like of the firearm. She can dot eyes with the Smith (she shot competitive rifle years ago for a Big 10 school).
Bottom line? Don't get a gun YOU want get one your wife likes and shoots well. THEN practice.

 

[rudeguy]

Clearing drills and locking slide open and checking. A defense weapon needs to be able to quickly deal with a problem IMHO.

Plus that whole loading it thing.

oh right. I was thinking of when loading it.

Loading = pop in a clip and hit the slide release for me.

Now that I think about cleaning, clearing and drilling...I've racked mine a ton. Don't mind me...my brain is busy trying to find that stupid box!

 

[adairusmc]

oh right. I was thinking of when loading it.

Loading = pop in a clip and hit the slide release for me.

Now that I think about cleaning, clearing and drilling...I've racked mine a ton. Don't mind me...my brain is busy trying to find that stupid box!

That is impressive, popping a clip in there and loading it that way. I have heard of people inserting a magazine in a handgun and hitting the slide release to load it, but you hardly ever hear of someone using a clip. Must be a unique piece. :awe:

 

[rudeguy]

That is impressive, popping a clip in there and loading it that way. I have heard of people inserting a magazine in a handgun and hitting the slide release to load it, but you hardly ever hear of someone using a clip. Must be a unique piece. :awe:

freaking jarheads and their mag/clip battle

😛

 

[spidey07]

When I load a new mag I drop the slide manually, by pulling back on it. Gross motor skills are more enduring under pressure than fine motor skills (hitting the slide release catch.) I was taught this years ago at an offensive handgun course, but over time I've come to believe in it less and less. I'm just used to it now. :\

Same. I do a lot of training of picking up mag off table as I bring weapon up and rack slide then fire. I rarely put one in the chamber with slide release. You're correct about muscle memory, it becomes second nature.

 

[Nebor]

Same. I do a lot of training of picking up mag off table as I bring weapon up and rack slide then fire. I rarely put one in the chamber with slide release. You're correct about muscle memory, it becomes second nature.

Yeah, but you watch some guy's at competition that can empty a mag, reload and empty another mag in like 6 seconds, and all of them are using the slide release. And I feel like their muscle memory is so strong that they'd be able to do it in a firefight. So in retrospect I wish I'd just drilled the mag release.

One of the positives is that manually releasing the slide works on all makes & models of semi-autos. Useful in a joint operating environment where I might find myself with a British Sig 226 or a German H&K instead of my Beretta M9.

 

[pontifex]

I don't get the slide fixation. I have yet to rack my slide. Why would you need to unless there is a misfire?

so you have never shot your pistol then?

 

[rudeguy]

so you have never shot your pistol then?

I fessed up to having a brain fart. I would edit but I like to preserve my idiocy.

 

[shortylickens]

The Mag Clip issue is important, because some guns use both and you need to know how to work each. For example: The Springfield M1A, or M-14.

 

[HAL9000]

Oh, I thought ownership was banned. So can you just order one of these? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8X-Bixfr1Q Because that's my pocket knife. Goes everywhere I go. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...jfUD7iDPw&sig2=PHavrKnTr36FMkESzo-r1Q&cad=rja

Flick knives are a no go, unless you have one arm 😀

Aside from that, in England you can carry a knife if you have a valid reason.

how is it terrifying? The people in this thread aren't going out on shooting sprees. It's not the fucking wild west here in US.

thats like saying you're scared of people who know so much about cars, they might run you over.

for most people it's a hobby, just like pc gaming or working on a car. a gun is machine, nothing more.

Car != Gun.

 

[pontifex]

Flick knives are a no go, unless you have one arm 😀

Aside from that, in England you can carry a knife if you have a valid reason.



Car != Gun.

I have to have a valid reason to carry a knife in england? wow, that is insane!

car does = gun

 

[HAL9000]

I have to have a valid reason to carry a knife in england? wow, that is insane!

car does = gun

It makes good sense to me, it means that people carrying knives to kill people are committing a crime...

Car = method of transport that could kill someone
Gun = weapon used to kill things, that is all.

Car's in america require licences after passing a test to say you are fit to drive
Guns dont.

 

[Scotteq]

It makes good sense to me, it means that people carrying knives to kill people are committing a crime...

Car = method of transport that could kill someone
Gun = weapon used to kill things, that is all.

Car's in america require licences after passing a test to say you are fit to drive
Guns dont.

I like to think I've been pretty patient, given your unfamiliarity... But the bolded statement is ignorant, almost beyond belief.

I have to get a separate permit and undergo a criminal background check from my state as well as the federal government, each and every time I wish to purchase a firearm. That firearm has to be registered. And I have highly detailed requirements governing what I am and am not allowed to do with it: Up to and including where and how it is stored on my own property. And even so far as - if I so much as stop for milk on the way home from the range - I could spend 7 years in prison for doing it.

I do *not* have to do those things for an automobile or motorcycle.

Further, I find your intransigence on the topic bordering on the childish; and going forward request you refrain from posting such asinine responses until such time as you educate yourself.

 

[HAL9000]

I like to think I've been pretty patient, given your unfamiliarity... But the bolded statement is ignorant, almost beyond belief.

I have to get a separate permit and undergo a criminal background check from the state, each and every time I wish to purchase a firearm. That firearm has to be registered. And I have highly detailed requirements governing what I am and am not allowed to do with it: Up to and including where and how it is stored on my own property.

I do *not* have to do those things for an automobile or motorcycle.

Further, I find your intransigence on the topic bordering on the childish; and going forward request you refrain from posting such responses until such time as you educate yourself.

I already realised the above, but because you don't have a criminal record, does not mean you are necessarily fit to own a firearm.

 

[Scotteq]

I already realised the above, but because you don't have a criminal record, does not mean you are necessarily fit to own a firearm.

And just because YOU state the requirements for automobiles are lesser than those for Firearms does not make it true. And to back that statement, here's 27 Pages of regulations I have to abide by.

 

[HAL9000]

And just because YOU state the requirements for automobiles are lesser than those for Firearms does not make it true.

Well in the UK at least you have to go through a series of tests until you have passed adequately to say that you are able to competently operate a car. In america you have to be without a criminal record to own a gun....

What did I miss?

 

[Scotteq]

Well in the UK at least you have to go through a series of tests until you have passed adequately to say that you are able to competently operate a car. In america you have to be without a criminal record to own a gun....

What did I miss?

You mean, besides the entire process of obtaining your permit? 🙄


Sorry Hal - You are wrong on this issue.

 

[HAL9000]

You mean, besides the entire process of obtaining your permit? 🙄


Sorry Hal - You are wrong on this issue.

I was under the impression that the process of obtaining a permit was:

Send off info/ request > Wait for police background check > receive permit

???? :\

 

[Scotteq]

I was under the impression that the process of obtaining a permit was:

Send off info/ request > Wait for police background check > receive permit

???? :\

You are under a lot of impressions. Mostly made up.

 

[HAL9000]

You are under a lot of impressions. Mostly made up.

Not made up, just ill informed, please explain.

 

[amddude]

I was under the impression that the process of obtaining a permit was:

Send off info/ request > Wait for police background check > receive permit

???? :\

For most states, that is true. You realize that we have around 300 million guns here and there were only 35,500 gun deaths in 2007. That includes people killed by police, drug violence, self defense, everything (except suicide). I'm sure you could whittle that down more by removing those numbers. That's very, very low.

 

[HAL9000]

For most states, that is true. You realize that we have around 300 million guns here and there were only 35,500 gun deaths in 2007. That includes people killed by police, drug violence, self defense, everything (except suicide). I'm sure you could whittle that down more by removing those numbers. That's very, very low.

Your very very low and mine are very very different.

 

[Nebor]

Flick knives are a no go, unless you have one arm 😀

Aside from that, in England you can carry a knife if you have a valid reason.



Car != Gun.

I occasionally run across boxes or food packaging that require a knife to open. What if you were in a car crash and needed to cut your safety belt? The fact that I use a knife as a tool often enough to merit carrying it around all the time is a testament to the fact that there are myriad "valid reasons" for anyone to carry a knife.

 

[spidey07]

I occasionally run across boxes or food packaging that require a knife to open. What if you were in a car crash and needed to cut your safety belt? The fact that I use a knife as a tool often enough to merit carrying it around all the time is a testament to the fact that there are myriad "valid reasons" for anyone to carry a knife.

Don't be obtuse. Just call the police for circumstances like that.