YAGT - handgun for wife

[Scotteq]

Perhaps I did extend it a tad, but none-the-less, the idea that people around me know this much about guns is terrifying.

Conversely, I find the idea that the people around me are that knowledgeable to be highly comforting: I'd far, far prefer a well-versed and responsible firearm owning neighbor to some random moron with a gun.

 

[Gibsons]

I'll drop the subject, though - since it's clearly unpopular.

Disagree.

 

[HAL9000]

Conversely, I find the idea that the people around me are that knowledgeable to be highly comforting: I'd far, far prefer a well-versed and responsible firearm owning neighbor to some random moron with a gun.

I agree, but I would rather they didn't have a gun at all...

 

[Kelvrick]

Conversely, I find the idea that the people around me are that knowledgeable to be highly comforting: I'd far, far prefer a well-versed and responsible firearm owning neighbor to some random moron with a gun.

To extend this to a well-used argument, I would also prefer to have people who know a lot about cars to drive around me, rather than those who only know to take it to the dealer whenever the light comes on.

More knowledge is good. Being ignorant does not make you or the people around you safer.

 

[edro]

I agree, but I would rather they didn't have a gun at all...

You and your neighbors are victims.

 

[Squisher]

.38? I guess it depends if you want her to be able to put them down in one shot or hit them enough you hope they give up? I still think a .38 at close range should put them down. If not 5 more should do the trick. I guess I like the .38 for women because it doesnt have as much kick as a .357.

Have you ever fired a .38 P+ hollow point into something? I am NOT a fan of the .38 cal, but the P+ version has plenty of punch.

 

[HAL9000]

You and your neighbors are victims.

Lol.

 

[Malak]

You and your neighbors are victims.

I'd rather be a victim than create one.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

I'd rather be a victim than create one.

Have fun with that.

I'd rather be the guy still breathing.

 

[surfsatwerk]

Have fun with that.

I'd rather be the guy still breathing.

I'd rather be golfing.

 

[Malak]

Have fun with that.

I'd rather be the guy still breathing.

Expecting someone to shoot you for some reason? You are much less likely to be shot if you don't fight back than if you do, especially if you are armed. Statistically you are safer without a gun.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

Expecting someone to shoot you for some reason? You are much less likely to be shot if you don't fight back than if you do, especially if you are armed. Statistically you are safer without a gun.

So just bend over and take it? No thanks. And no I don't expect to be involved in a conflict but if one happens I'd rather be prepared.

There is a 0% chance of them shooting you or anyone else if you shoot them first.

 

[jupiter57]

Yeah I'm interesting to a local...

I find it bizarre, because the notion that you need a gun to defend yourself is bizarre over here, plus the amount of knowledge everyone has on guns is a little scary, and the whole love of a deadly weapon thing is really strange over here. It's just interesting to see the whole discussion...

Also If I ever got to the point in my life where I'm thinking to myself what GUN my wife/gf should have so she is safe, I'd move.

You gotta realize, 98% of these CCW nuts here only exit the basement twice a year: when a new zombie movie comes out or their video card quits & they MUST have one NOW!
Mommy can't be trusted to get the exact model!

It must be pretty scary out there.

 

[olds]

Yeah I'm interesting to a local...

I find it bizarre, because the notion that you need a gun to defend yourself is bizarre over here, plus the amount of knowledge everyone has on guns is a little scary, and the whole love of a deadly weapon thing is really strange over here. It's just interesting to see the whole discussion...

Also If I ever got to the point in my life where I'm thinking to myself what GUN my wife/gf should have so she is safe, I'd move.

So, if Germany came knocking on your door again, where would you move too?

 

[olds]

Conversely, I find the idea that the people around me are that knowledgeable to be highly comforting: I'd far, far prefer a well-versed and responsible firearm owning neighbor to some random moron with a gun.

This X 100

 

[HAL9000]

You gotta realize, 98% of these CCW nuts here only exit the basement twice a year: when a new zombie movie comes out or their video card quits & they MUST have one NOW!
Mommy can't be trusted to get the exact model!

It must be pretty scary out there.

It must be :sneaky:

So, if Germany came knocking on your door again, where would you move too?

We'd call the Army, like we did last time. Then we'd call you guys and let you sort it out, like we did last time, what we wouldn't do is phone my wife and say "Hey honey, germans are back, have you got that gun?"

 

[corwin]

Let your wife choose, but only after firing one first...bought mine a Kahr P40 for her first gun cause she liked the way it felt, after our first day at the range she hated firing it. Ended up selling it back (at a huge loss) and buying a S&W 637 with Crimson Trace grips, she's so much happier now...the fit and feel may be good but you never know if you'll love it till you make it go boom.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Ditto. Bizarre and fascinating.

As citizens we have a little more freedom than you subjects.



Back to the OP.
Let your wife find a gun. It's going to be hers to shoot. She needs to find the one thatworks for her.

I'm still trying to figure out why a semi auto is out of the question?
If she can't operate the slide, then she's not going to be strong enough to handle the recoil of a .357. It's that simple.
If my 7 year old can rack the slide of a handgun, your wife can.
It's all in the technique. Push/Pull.
I bet you and thusly she holds the firearm with the primary grip hand/arm fully extended and pull back on the slide.
Proper technique for anyone to rack the slide is, bent elbow on primary arm, Then with support hand grab the top,back of the slide. Pull backwards on the slide WHILE pushing forward on the frame/grip. Much easier to do. If that doesn't work. Bring the firearm to belly button height, perpendicular to the body(pointed in a safe direction) and use my above method. This will give even more leverage to do rack the slide.
If it's a strength issue, then if she can pull the trigger on a DA revolver, she has enough hand strength to do this.

So many times, improper form causes people to be bad shots or incapable of using a firearm that other people with similar ailments have no problems with.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Let your wife choose, but only after firing one first...bought mine a Kahr P40 for her first gun cause she liked the way it felt, after our first day at the range she hated firing it. Ended up selling it back (at a huge loss) and buying a S&W 637 with Crimson Trace grips, she's so much happier now...the fit and feel may be good but you never know if you'll love it till you make it go boom.

.40SW in a small gun with a new shooter is asking for disappointment.

 

[amddude]

You gotta realize, 98% of these CCW nuts here only exit the basement twice a year: when a new zombie movie comes out or their video card quits & they MUST have one NOW!
Mommy can't be trusted to get the exact model!

It must be pretty scary out there.

So if 98% of the "nuts" are at their house at any given time, wouldn't that mean it's pretty safe (according to your reasoning) out there?

Anyway gun ownership is high, concealed carry pemits are at an all time high, yet the streets never run red with blood. I'm sure to someone like the UK folks where that is not the case it may seem odd. Trust me, if you visit the mall to buy a pair of jeans you are not going to feel scared.

 

[HAL9000]

As citizens we have a little more freedom than you subjects.

Except the ones that get shot, or can't afford health care... Or people who want to watch TV without retarded censorship, or people who want to drink before 21, or gay people who want to be legally together, or.... etc etc etc.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

It must be :sneaky:



We'd call the Army, like we did last time. Then we'd call you guys and let you sort it out, like we did last time, what we wouldn't do is phone my wife and say "Hey honey, germans are back, have you got that gun?"

You kind of prove the point. You have been conditioned into thinking other people will help you. There's an old saying:
When seconds count, the police are minutes away.

Having a gun doesn't make one an internet commando that is out gunning to murder everyone in sight. It also does not make one a social leper. Some have them soley for recreational purposes. Others have them for protection purposes. Those that have them for protection understand either through experience, expierence of someone they know, or through deductive reasoning, that society is messed up and there are people that will kill you for $20. As a responsible CITIZEN, you should protect yourself.

 

[amddude]

Except the ones that get shot, or can't afford health care... Or people who want to watch TV without retarded censorship, or people who want to drink before 21, or gay people who want to be legally together, or.... etc etc etc.

The US certainly has work to do on many fronts. However we aren't getting arrested for handing out christian tracts in the muslim parts of town, or arrested for defending ourselves in our own homes, etc. The UK isn't a prison camp but you don't have high ground on this topic.

 

[HAL9000]

You kind of prove the point. You have been conditioned into thinking other people will help you. There's an old saying:
When seconds count, the police are minutes away.

Having a gun doesn't make one an internet commando that is out gunning to murder everyone in sight. It also does not make one a social leper. Some have them soley for recreational purposes. Others have them for protection purposes. Those that have them for protection understand either through experience, expierence of someone they know, or through deductive reasoning, that society is messed up and there are people that will kill you for $20. As a responsible CITIZEN, you should protect yourself.

Yep. But in the UK you don't need a gun to do that, that's the difference. Also I live next a police station which helps.

The US certainly has work to do on many fronts. However we aren't getting arrested for handing out christian tracts in the muslim parts of town, or arrested for defending ourselves in our own homes, etc. The UK isn't a prison camp but you don't have high ground on this topic.

I feel like I do.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Except the ones that get shot, or can't afford health care... Or people who want to watch TV without retarded censorship, or people who want to drink before 21, or gay people who want to be legally together, or.... etc etc etc.

If you look at the real statistics on gun violence in America, the majority of people shot every year aren't children, they are gang members.
You're completely whack if you think you are getting free healthcare over there as you pay insane taxes that pay for your health care. Last I checked, you had to have a licenese just to watch "public" TV. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_in_the_United_Kingdom#Licensing

Don't get started on censorship in the UK as it exists and under certain subjects is even stricter than here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_the_United_Kingdom
Hell they went so far sa to censor people based on being Irish.
Gay's can be together in the US and can marry in some state or were allowed to.
Currently, it is illegal in the UK
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_in_the_United_Kingdom