YAGT - Gauging interest

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IceBergSLiM

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: pontifex
i don't know, that just seems pushy to me. even if the girl is perfect, but doesn't want to get intimate that soon, you'd just drop her?

I'm not saying there are not exceptions. But a perfect girl......like a perfect 10....if she was stand off-ish still by the 3rd date she's just not that into me, she probably has other guys she's seeing i'm just a fall back. I would back off, stop calling etc. If she came back at me i'd give her another shot only because she is a 10. Im not saying there has to be sex but by the 3rd date there has to be something physical going on and some very strong signals that she is into you. If a girl is very into she will have no problem getting physical by the 3rd date. unless she has major hang ups, emotional issues etc......in which case my advice would be to leave the scrap metal at the junk yard.

would you say light touching, like arms, shoulders, etc., a peck on the cheek, or holding hands type of thing is enough physical contact to warrant keeping it going?

i guess when i hear being physical i think intimately, like a BJ or sex.

light touching imo should be going on way before the third date. preferable as soon as possible. deep tongue kissing and heavy petting would be acceptable for a 3rd date. Seriously how much would it suck to be on date 20 and find out the person can't kiss and is totally awkward when they hook up.

i've never been in that situation but i'd hope by date 20 that i knew whether or not i enjoyed their company. If I did enjoy being with her, it might be something that could be overlooked.

how would anyone get any practice if everyone upped and left as soon as they found out they didn't kiss well? just seems like people too focused on the physical aspect.

physical chemistry is a must. its not optional. I think you like to hide behind this facade of needing to know someone's soul before you get physical. Its a saftey net for you an excuse not to escalate and risk rejection.

so lets say this person is a 10 in everything except kissing. you love everything about this person but they can't kiss. that would make you stop seeing them?

lets come back to reality buddy. your not going to encounter this scenario is this lifetime.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim


lets come back to reality buddy. your not going to encounter this scenario is this lifetime.

i'm not saying a literal 10 and EVERYONE thinks so, but in your mind, the girl is perfect.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim


lets come back to reality buddy. your not going to encounter this scenario is this lifetime.

i'm not saying a literal 10 and EVERYONE thinks so, but in your mind, the girl is perfect.

as long as there is physical chemistry i could get over the fact she wasnt the best kisser. she can be trained. but you cannot "learn" or "train" for physical chemistry.....i said it before the sparks there or it isnt.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim


lets come back to reality buddy. your not going to encounter this scenario is this lifetime.

i'm not saying a literal 10 and EVERYONE thinks so, but in your mind, the girl is perfect.

as long as there is physical chemistry i could get over the fact she wasnt the best kisser. she can be trained. but you cannot "learn" or "train" for physical chemistry.....i said it before the sparks there or it isnt.

i think somewhere we are misunderstanding each other. I agree with you that there has to be some kind of physical attraction.
 

IceBergSLiM

Lifer
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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim


lets come back to reality buddy. your not going to encounter this scenario is this lifetime.

i'm not saying a literal 10 and EVERYONE thinks so, but in your mind, the girl is perfect.

as long as there is physical chemistry i could get over the fact she wasnt the best kisser. she can be trained. but you cannot "learn" or "train" for physical chemistry.....i said it before the sparks there or it isnt.

i think somewhere we are misunderstanding each other. I agree with you that there has to be some kind of physical attraction.

I was with a girl who i was extremely physically attracted to probably a 9/10 looks wise. However when it came down to do the deed we were not compatible. There wasn't any chemistry when we were hooking up...she was always going left when i was going right etc...it was awkward. We stopped hooking up and we are just good friends now.
 

doze

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Jul 26, 2005
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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: doze
pics?

edit: just wanted to get that in first.

So she went to a fish store, then out to eat with you, then to your apartment where you put no moves on her, and now she wants to go shooting? You better do something quick before you are stuck in friend zone

so let me guess, you would have whipped out your penis right in front of her

When in doubt...
 

DanFungus

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Jul 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: Auggie
<snip>

Cliffnotes: She's interested in you ;)

You're in a good position, now just go out and act on it. You don't have to worry about going out of your way to impress her (which usually doesn't work anyway) so just spend time with her, learn about who she is and let her learn more about you.
 

Auggie

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Alright, we went to the range. Got some moderate physical contact helping her with her stance and grip on the pistol(s). She laughed a lot at her (relative) lack of skill, which was good. She went on and on about how good I was doing, and said she almost just liked watching me more than shooting herself - luckily tonight I was on, and was shooting pretty well.

We go to dinner, sit across from one another in a booth, conversation is still really good. Would have preferred side-by-side, but some girls don't dig that really, and also, nothing about the night is really explicitly romantic yet at this point - we were just having a good time, laughing and talking, etc.

Then I'm thinking let's see if she wants to come back to my apartment and watch a movie - I figure that's fertile ground for more obvious flirting. She says that she's got homework that she really wants (needs? - I forget her words) to get done tonight, but that she's "definitely going to take a rain check on that, maybe tomorrow or later this week." So, it was like a no, but also a yes?

Also, she said she "definitely" (she seems to use that word regularly) wants to go shooting again sometime, and that "You're 2 for 2 in picking great places to eat." Both really good things, right? 2 for 2 sounds like she hopes the streak continues, eh?

BTW, I'm 25 and in grad school getting a phd in genetics, so I'm smart, but, uh, not socially elegant. She's 23, and I'm probably the biggest dork she's ever seen, which is honestly seeming to be kindof charming or something, in a goofy way.
 

djheater

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Auggie
Alright, we went to the range. Got some moderate physical contact helping her with her stance and grip on the pistol(s). She laughed a lot at her (relative) lack of skill, which was good. She went on and on about how good I was doing, and said she almost just liked watching me more than shooting herself - luckily tonight I was on, and was shooting pretty well.

We go to dinner, sit across from one another in a booth, conversation is still really good. Would have preferred side-by-side, but some girls don't dig that really, and also, nothing about the night is really explicitly romantic yet at this point - we were just having a good time, laughing and talking, etc.

Then I'm thinking let's see if she wants to come back to my apartment and watch a movie - I figure that's fertile ground for more obvious flirting. She says that she's got homework that she really wants (needs? - I forget her words) to get done tonight, but that she's "definitely going to take a rain check on that, maybe tomorrow or later this week." So, it was like a no, but also a yes?

Also, she said she "definitely" (she seems to use that word regularly) wants to go shooting again sometime, and that "You're 2 for 2 in picking great places to eat." Both really good things, right? 2 for 2 sounds like she hopes the streak continues, eh?

BTW, I'm 25 and in grad school getting a phd in genetics, so I'm smart, but, uh, not socially elegant. She's 23, and I'm probably the biggest dork she's ever seen, which is honestly seeming to be kindof charming or something, in a goofy way.

You're doing fine.

You've, so far, not allowed your predisposition to over-analyze things to ruin this one. Keep up the good work.
 

I Saw OJ

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Dec 13, 2004
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Sounds like things are progressing well, keep it up at this pace and you are a shoe in.
 

Savarak

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Oct 27, 2001
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*waiting for when she says the magic 6 words... "I like you like a brother"
 

Nutdotnet

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Dec 5, 2000
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My god man...way to overanalyze.

You're 25, if you're so unsure about the situation you must never date...
 

SearchMaster

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I don't normally chime in on YAGT's, but for the love of God, PLEASE make some sort of move on your next encounter. At the VERY least, hold her hand, put your arm around her, SOMETHING. You're teetering on the friend zone already, and she likes you man. Don't blow it. You don't have to rip her clothes off but let her know you're not gay and you want to move forward with the relationship.
 

Tobolo

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Aug 17, 2005
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Originally posted by: Auggie
Alright, we went to the range. Got some moderate physical contact helping her with her stance and grip on the pistol(s). She laughed a lot at her (relative) lack of skill, which was good. She went on and on about how good I was doing, and said she almost just liked watching me more than shooting herself - luckily tonight I was on, and was shooting pretty well.

We go to dinner, sit across from one another in a booth, conversation is still really good. Would have preferred side-by-side, but some girls don't dig that really, and also, nothing about the night is really explicitly romantic yet at this point - we were just having a good time, laughing and talking, etc.

Then I'm thinking let's see if she wants to come back to my apartment and watch a movie - I figure that's fertile ground for more obvious flirting. She says that she's got homework that she really wants (needs? - I forget her words) to get done tonight, but that she's "definitely going to take a rain check on that, maybe tomorrow or later this week." So, it was like a no, but also a yes?

Also, she said she "definitely" (she seems to use that word regularly) wants to go shooting again sometime, and that "You're 2 for 2 in picking great places to eat." Both really good things, right? 2 for 2 sounds like she hopes the streak continues, eh?

BTW, I'm 25 and in grad school getting a phd in genetics, so I'm smart, but, uh, not socially elegant. She's 23, and I'm probably the biggest dork she's ever seen, which is honestly seeming to be kindof charming or something, in a goofy way.

Yeah that comment plus him breaking rule #1 means she must be pretty rough looking. But your doing well. GL man and keep it going. BE SURE TO WATCH THE FRIEND ZONE!
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: SearchMaster
I don't normally chime in on YAGT's, but for the love of God, PLEASE make some sort of move on your next encounter. At the VERY least, hold her hand, put your arm around her, SOMETHING. You're teetering on the friend zone already, and she likes you man. Don't blow it. You don't have to rip her clothes off but let her know you're not gay and you want to move forward with the relationship.

It's actually kind of hard for people who're used to analysis just to ignore that facet of themselves. I'm a software engineer and it's full of fairly logical tasks, which places me in a logic mindset. So how do I tend to look at the world? Through logic... but we all know the world is all about logic as shows like Survivor staying on the air :confused:. So looking at a situation logically, you tend to over-analyze something that doesn't even need analyzing... it needs action!

Take me for example... I got a girl's number the other day. Yet I don't know what days of the week she works, so I feel reluctant to call her as I'd rather avoid bothering someone at work. Yet if I take that approach, I'll never end up calling her since (in my eyes) she'll be working every day :Q! *Sigh* and who though being a nerd could get harder than trying to keep your D&D dice sets in perfect order.
 

ghost recon88

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Originally posted by: SearchMaster
I don't normally chime in on YAGT's, but for the love of God, PLEASE make some sort of move on your next encounter. At the VERY least, hold her hand, put your arm around her, SOMETHING. You're teetering on the friend zone already, and she likes you man. Don't blow it. You don't have to rip her clothes off but let her know you're not gay and you want to move forward with the relationship.

Dang, so thast why my last relationship ended... for real though, I'm dead serious. I love it when I can actually apply the advice given in these threads to my life.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: ghost recon88
Originally posted by: SearchMaster
I don't normally chime in on YAGT's, but for the love of God, PLEASE make some sort of move on your next encounter. At the VERY least, hold her hand, put your arm around her, SOMETHING. You're teetering on the friend zone already, and she likes you man. Don't blow it. You don't have to rip her clothes off but let her know you're not gay and you want to move forward with the relationship.

Dang, so thast why my last relationship ended... for real though, I'm dead serious. I love it when I can actually apply the advice given in these threads to my life.

so you've used the "when in doubt, whip it out" and "does this smell like choloform to you" advice before?
 

ghost recon88

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: ghost recon88
Originally posted by: SearchMaster
I don't normally chime in on YAGT's, but for the love of God, PLEASE make some sort of move on your next encounter. At the VERY least, hold her hand, put your arm around her, SOMETHING. You're teetering on the friend zone already, and she likes you man. Don't blow it. You don't have to rip her clothes off but let her know you're not gay and you want to move forward with the relationship.

Dang, so thast why my last relationship ended... for real though, I'm dead serious. I love it when I can actually apply the advice given in these threads to my life.

so you've used the "when in doubt, whip it out" and "does this smell like choloform to you" advice before?

LOL, no. But I didn't make a move until the 6th or 7th time out, and by then, it was "a little too late, a little too wrong". No! must stop quoting that line! In short, the skank axed my ass 2 weeks before Christmas.
 

eleison

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Best way to get her into the sack... get another girl to like you. Trust me, girls respond to competition...

Even if you don't look like brad pitt, it has never failed ;-)

 

rockyct

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Very good progress. Perhaps there will actually be a successful relationship formed after a YAGT was created. :)

My main suggestion would be to stop trying to analyze was she says. It really sounds like her actions say she's interested and that's all that counts. If she said she wanted a rain check, but didn't return your calls for a week, her actions would say she's not interested. I don't see that problem here, so I think you're good.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: thehstrybean
Originally posted by: neutralizer
WTF is frisbee golf?

You are so deprived. It's like ultimate frisbee and golf combined...you do the math...

How about for those of us who don't know what ultimate frisbee is?


It's not like Ultimate. that was a terrible comparison. but it is like golf, there are courses all over the place these days, usually in public parks. The discs are much smaller than standard discs. They even have putters, long-range drivers, mid-range drivers...things like that. You have a tee, you launch your disc trying to avoid trees and other hazzards, and try to get it into a basket that's about 5 feet tall.

It's the hippie sport of choice. Be sure to bring a packed bowl if you ever intend to play ;)
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: Auggie
Alright, we went to the range. Got some moderate physical contact helping her with her stance and grip on the pistol(s). She laughed a lot at her (relative) lack of skill, which was good. She went on and on about how good I was doing, and said she almost just liked watching me more than shooting herself - luckily tonight I was on, and was shooting pretty well.

We go to dinner, sit across from one another in a booth, conversation is still really good. Would have preferred side-by-side, but some girls don't dig that really, and also, nothing about the night is really explicitly romantic yet at this point - we were just having a good time, laughing and talking, etc.

Then I'm thinking let's see if she wants to come back to my apartment and watch a movie - I figure that's fertile ground for more obvious flirting. She says that she's got homework that she really wants (needs? - I forget her words) to get done tonight, but that she's "definitely going to take a rain check on that, maybe tomorrow or later this week." So, it was like a no, but also a yes?

Also, she said she "definitely" (she seems to use that word regularly) wants to go shooting again sometime, and that "You're 2 for 2 in picking great places to eat." Both really good things, right? 2 for 2 sounds like she hopes the streak continues, eh?

BTW, I'm 25 and in grad school getting a phd in genetics, so I'm smart, but, uh, not socially elegant. She's 23, and I'm probably the biggest dork she's ever seen, which is honestly seeming to be kindof charming or something, in a goofy way.


:thumbsup:

dude, you're made in the shade. stop asking us here because there is nothing that really needs to be said about the situation on these boards. Just make sure you get a little frisky at the next outing. ;)

curious, what does she do? is it related to the genetics thing? (I'm in the same line of work you are and will be in...and I've never dated within it; very few girls I've met on this side that interest me...)