YAEWBT - Yet another existing while black thread. Modified to all purpose harassment (includes other people of color)

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Perknose

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Who comes to work as a contractor with a giant confederate flag flying from your truck? Seriously.
Yeah, its Georgia but.................... come the eff on.
Black family fires contractor who shows up to job with Confederate flag on truck: 'I cannot pay you'
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/bla...flag-on-truck-i-cannot-pay-you-194856544.html

The family was polite but stern.
From the comments section, Blackbelt Birder (lol!) says:

If he's a proud Southerner, why not an Alabama, South Carolina, etc flag? Funny how that works.
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Yay, as if we needed more reinforcement of just what a total complete piece of shit you are.



If you don't want your posts "misinterpreted" you need to try and make them not incredibly fucking stupid and maybe for once in your miserable existence stop being willing to defend incredibly fucked up behavior so regularly that it immediately causes you to start crying and hurling insults whenever anyone responds pointing out the many many many many glaring flaws in the most basic aspects of the reasoning that you're using to justify your completely moronic posts.

Also, no you didn't simply say that. You figuratively shit yourself then started yelling about context while insulting people while ignoring the fucking context you added and act like it refutes anything when it actually reinforces that this guy seems to have issues. I love how you ignore that the guy went after people with a bat so they beat him up (and focus on him being beaten up and not the consistent behavior of him being a raging fuckstick; gee you think maybe the context you should be focused on there is his habit of going after people like a fucking psychopath?).

Rage more you pathetic stupid miserable sack of shit.
Lol go take your Ritalin. Christ you need some mental help. You keep proving my point that you get so butt hurt raged that you just dedicate entire posts of paragraphs of nothing but attempting to insult me while having absolutely no relation to debate or argument.

Seriously bud, you need some help.
 

esquared

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Another "waiting for a friend while black". In San Francisco, no less
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/son...passing-daddy-i-dont-like-this-212929522.html

The guy, Chistopher Cukor, called the cops while his young son told him:
“Daddy, I don’t like this, don’t do this,” the boy said.

Cukor, with his son "who believed Wesly Michel was trespassing, had asked for his friend's name and told him to call the person from the lobby's
callbox to prove he was a guest of a resident. Michel refused.

"Eventually, Michel's friend arrives at the building.
“Daddy, look what you’ve gotten us into!" the boy said. "Let’s go!”

Cukor appears to hang up the phone before the end of the video. Yahoo Lifestyle was not able to reach Cukor or Michel by the time of publishing.
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Perknose

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Aw c'mon, esquared. Don't you know? We live in a post-racial society!
 
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Maxima1

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Does anyone have actual data to compare white people calling the cops for nothing on black people vs. white people calling the cops for nothing on other white people?
 

esquared

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Does anyone have actual data to compare white people calling the cops for nothing on black people vs. white people calling the cops for nothing on other white people?
Yeah, lets both sides this. :rolleyes:
This thread went way the fuck over your head.
 
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Does anyone have actual data to compare white people calling the cops for nothing on black people vs. white people calling the cops for nothing on other white people?

But....but....bothsides!
Why don’t you create its own thread and post updates to it.
 

Maxima1

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But....but....bothsides!
Why don’t you create its own thread and post updates to it.

Yeah, lets both sides this. :rolleyes:
This thread went way the fuck over your head.

It doesn't make sense to whine about stereotyping, and then hypocritically make conclusions from an incomplete picture (in this case, inferring from the smattering of stories the media presents to the public). A lot of those passionate about social justice ironically become their worst enemy.

https://www.scribd.com/document/49975432/Are-Juries-Fair-Research

"Concerns about the appearance of jury fairness are likely to arise in courts where all-White juries try substantial numbers of BME defendants or try White defendants accused of racial crimes against BME victims."

"White jurors at Nottingham were significantly more likely to convict the White defendant when he was accused of assaulting a BME victim (61%) than when he was accused of assaulting a White victim (4%)."
 
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It doesn't make sense to whine about stereotyping, and then hypocritically make conclusions from an incomplete picture (in this case, inferring from the smattering of stories the media presents to the public). A lot of those passionate about social justice ironically become their worst enemy.

https://www.scribd.com/document/49975432/Are-Juries-Fair-Research

"Concerns about the appearance of jury fairness are likely to arise in courts where all-White juries try substantial numbers of BME defendants or try White defendants accused of racial crimes against BME victims."

"White jurors at Nottingham were significantly more likely to convict the White defendant when he was accused of assaulting a BME victim (61%) than when he was accused of assaulting a White victim (4%)."

Did you notice that the paper you linked is from/about Britain?
 

mikeymikec

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It doesn't make sense to whine about stereotyping, and then hypocritically make conclusions from an incomplete picture

Yet you're doing precisely that.

I live in the UK. I won't claim to have had a definitive experience of what life is like in the UK in the context of this topic, IMHO while the underlying attitudes with regard to race in the UK are probably similar to the US, I think those attitudes end of being expressed in different ways. I personally haven't heard of a UK version of "someone called 999 because I'm black" in recent memory.

In the UK hate speech is defined in law. When I hear people like my mum go off on one, it's often coupled with, "people can't say what they think any more". It may well be that racist people who think they're respectable/civilised also worry that if they needlessly called 999 to harass non-whites that they might get arrested for it themselves.

Looking for cases of non-white people calling the cops on white people is a logically valid thing to do IMO if you're actually interested: I feel fairly sure in assuming that a common reason why the reverse occurs is because of fear (though xenophobic in nature), and I think it's logically reasonable to assume that non-white people fear white people to at least some extent, so why not look for similar cases with reversed ethnicities. However, I can also think of reasons why non-whites wouldn't want to do this (e.g. not wanting to draw the attention of stereotypically racist LEOs).
 
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Maxima1

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British culture/history is in many ways very different from the US. You are arguing about an American issue and should use sources that address the American situation.

That was specifically about Nottingham, so my thinking is that there would be pockets of it here, too. I think there would be a counterpart here with a subset of the white population that's sensitive to social justice issues.

Yet you're doing precisely that.

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What I suggested happens on some juries isn't very broad.

If there's a difference between groups (e.g. black men doing more violent crime), then they're going to be treated differently because biases easily form. When I notice those vehemently opposed to stereotyping can't shed their own or see it in others on "their side", the expectations seem laughable.
 
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Another "waiting for a friend while black". In San Francisco, no less
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/son...passing-daddy-i-dont-like-this-212929522.html

The guy, Chistopher Cukor, called the cops while his young son told him:
“Daddy, I don’t like this, don’t do this,” the boy said.

Cukor, with his son "who believed Wesly Michel was trespassing, had asked for his friend's name and told him to call the person from the lobby's
callbox to prove he was a guest of a resident. Michel refused.

"Eventually, Michel's friend arrives at the building.
“Daddy, look what you’ve gotten us into!" the boy said. "Let’s go!”

Cukor appears to hang up the phone before the end of the video. Yahoo Lifestyle was not able to reach Cukor or Michel by the time of publishing.
"
This kid gives me hope
 

Lanyap

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Do you really know the context of this? Seems like a dickhead on this one-hand account - but if they were destroying someone else's property what do you think the result should be?

I mean little tidbits here and there just make me... you know... want to get a full story before using your Office Space jump to conclusions mat

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But hey - don't take my word for it. How about just realizing that you love reading nothing but juicy juicy left wing bias crap and presuming it to be true?

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-root/



Yes, The Root is biased against racism. I like Harriot's work and the "spin" he puts on it...

When contacted by WPXI, D’Andrea, the recently crowned MMA champion of Pittsburgh’s Playground Mixed Martial Arts Association, reportedly said that he was the one who was assaulted and his wife claimed that he is the real victim.



The attacker is a firefighter who is known to confront people at that park. He's on administrative leave now. I'm sure that's why the police initially let him go. When the story went viral the police had to do something.
https://www.wtae.com/article/man-ac...-pittsburghs-greenfield-neighborhood/28256739

The boy's father speaks out:
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2019/07/08/teenage-boy-assaulted-by-firefighter-father-upset/
 

Lanyap

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Who comes to work as a contractor with a giant confederate flag flying from your truck? Seriously.
Yeah, its Georgia but.................... come the eff on.
Black family fires contractor who shows up to job with Confederate flag on truck: 'I cannot pay you'
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/bla...flag-on-truck-i-cannot-pay-you-194856544.html

The family was polite but stern.



I've lived in central Florida for a couple of years now and I see jacked up trucks with big confederate flags about once a month. Just saw one on the local highway a few days ago with two big confederate flags hanging off of the back. I do live in an area where there are newer golf communities and older farms. We have a lot of rednecks and bikers around here.
 

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Another "waiting for a friend while black". In San Francisco, no less
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/son...passing-daddy-i-dont-like-this-212929522.html

The guy, Chistopher Cukor, called the cops while his young son told him:
“Daddy, I don’t like this, don’t do this,” the boy said.

Cukor, with his son "who believed Wesly Michel was trespassing, had asked for his friend's name and told him to call the person from the lobby's
callbox to prove he was a guest of a resident. Michel refused.

"Eventually, Michel's friend arrives at the building.
“Daddy, look what you’ve gotten us into!" the boy said. "Let’s go!”

Cukor appears to hang up the phone before the end of the video. Yahoo Lifestyle was not able to reach Cukor or Michel by the time of publishing.
"



Interesting information.

Christopher Cukor: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know
https://heavy.com/news/2019/07/christopher-chris-cukor-san-francisco-video/
1. The Video Shows Cukor Calling Police on Michel as His Son Begs For Him Not To
2. The Friend Shows Up & Asks What Is Going On as Cukor’s Child Says, ‘I Told You! Daddy, Look What You’ve Gotten Us Into’
3. Cukor’s Father Was Killed in San Francisco By a Mentally Ill Man & Cukor & His Family Blamed Police For Not Responding
4. Cukor Works For YouTube, Graduated From Princeton & Has a Years-Long Career in Internet TV & Device Partnerships
5. Michel, a Software Engineer, Said That He’s Experienced Racial Profiling Before. Some Say The Video is ‘Race-Baiting’
 

Perknose

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I'm sorry for Mr. Cukor's loss of his father. It helps to understand how he (mis)handled the situation, but it does not excuse it. Mr. D'Andrea was a clean cut, well mannered black man wearing a fucking pink polo shirt! He was so obviously NOT a threat that even Mr. Cukor's young son could see that!

And this is the problem with latent racism and the "fear of the black man." Mr. Cukor is almost assuredly not a member of the KKK and would no doubt strenuously deny that he is any way racist.

But if you don't think that, at least in part, Mr. Cukor racially profiled a obviously harmless young black PROFESSIONAL, and thereby intruded on this young man's day in the most personally demeaning way possible, creating an incident where there was none, then YOU are blind to the ongoing problem of race in America.
 
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Another "waiting for a friend while black". In San Francisco, no less
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/son...passing-daddy-i-dont-like-this-212929522.html

The guy, Chistopher Cukor, called the cops while his young son told him:
“Daddy, I don’t like this, don’t do this,” the boy said.

Cukor, with his son "who believed Wesly Michel was trespassing, had asked for his friend's name and told him to call the person from the lobby's
callbox to prove he was a guest of a resident. Michel refused.

"Eventually, Michel's friend arrives at the building.
“Daddy, look what you’ve gotten us into!" the boy said. "Let’s go!”

Cukor appears to hang up the phone before the end of the video. Yahoo Lifestyle was not able to reach Cukor or Michel by the time of publishing.
"

General Victim culture mentality.

In this case - Mr Cukor was exiting his building, and the other gentlemen was FOLLOWING HIM IN from the exit AKA "tailgating". You know, that thing EVERY company tells you to make sure NEVER happens, right? The point is obvious - someone is trying to access a restricted area (owners/renters) with someone that doesn't own or rent the area and isn't being escorted by an appropriate person.

The guy is simply doing what everyone else is too much of a pansy to do in work culture - turn around and tell them to please have authorization instead of tailgating.

White, black, brown, yellow, orange trump or gold - no one gives a fuck about the color of your skin. You're unauthorized to enter the premise.

But but but but but but but but But but but but but but but but But but but but but but but but But but but but but but but but But but but but but but but but But but but but but but but but it's because I'm black!
 
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I'm sorry for Mr. Cukor's loss of his father. It helps to understand how he (mis)handled the situation, but it does not excuse it. Mr. D'Andrea was a clean cut, well mannered black man wearing a fucking pink polo shirt! He was so obviously NOT a threat that even Mr. Cukor's young son could see that!

And this is the problem with latent racism and the "fear of the black man." Mr. Cukor is almost assuredly not a member of the KKK and would no doubt strenuously deny that he is any way racist.

But if you don't think that, at least in part, Mr. Cukor racially profiled a obviously harmless young black PROFESSIONAL, and thereby intruded on this young man's day in the most personally demeaning way possible, creating an incident where there was none, then YOU are blind to the ongoing problem of race in America.

Got it - so next time you're in a corporate office and some guy wants to tailgate in behind you to a secured area, just make sure you judge him on his attire and assume he means no harm. What could go wrong? By the way, you're responsible for all theft, crime, or illegal activity that occurs because you were the sole responsible party for their entry.

DERP

By the way, just so you understand this - you JUST SAID to judge someone based on their appearance. I thought that's what we aren't supposed to do? Make up your mind you silly fucking contradicting moron.
 

HomerJS

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As you are leaving an apartment building security door someone tries to enter. You tell that person please call the unit you wish to visit and close the door. Now if that person either tries or pushes past you that warrants calling police.

Having said that if you watch the video all parties are "outside" the building. The scenario you gave was made up bullshit. Bless you heart keep trying to deny black people have problems just existing.
 
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As you are leaving an apartment building security door someone tries to enter. You tell that person please call the unit you wish to visit and close the door. Now if that person either tries or pushes past you that warrants calling police.

Having said that if you watch the video all parties are "outside" the building. The scenario you gave was made up bullshit. Bless you heart keep trying to deny black people have problems just existing.

Don't bother gathering evidence or facts or anything detective dipshit.



OH WAIT - What is this that is being held open by him while he is calling - and the subsequent person that is videoing is CLEARLY INSIDE OF you fucking halfwit moron that can't even do half an ounce of research? Try again moron - this time without your racial cognitive dissonance.

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