YADCT: Digital Camera

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Gee, I wonder how many of these canon people actually look at other brands objectively.

Yes I do, but what is the point?

The point is after doing some research you can find better cameras instead of just jumping into the canon bandwagon

Meh, you might be able to find a better camera. Here are the facts:

The Canon is not a bad camera, just maybe not the best in PQ
The Canon is "in"/"cute" which is the factor for most girls picking out a camera
Canon media is the cheapest
While Canon picture quality may not be the best, but their build quality is at the top

Canon uses SD, many other brands use SD too, thus how could you claim canon media is the cheapest?
Canon was never known for their build quality either. In fact, the 350D is known to have the worst build quality compared to their competitors.
Small cameras are "in/cute". Canon's SD series fit that, but so do many other brands.
Canon has some good cameras that's the best in their class, but not the SD600.

 

[Vette73]

^

I looked at the canon and others but keep coming back to the Kodak C875. Not that canon is bad, just not the best IMO.


So for me that was the best choice. I am very happy with it.


So for the OP best thing ot do is look at what you will use it for and who has the best features for the price.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Cattlegod

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Gee, I wonder how many of these canon people actually look at other brands objectively.

quick, kill him.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

SRSLY tho, I :heart: my SD550. Great little camera!

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Gee, I wonder how many of these canon people actually look at other brands objectively.

There is a lot the canon has going for it. The other two cameras may have marginally better overall picture quality and more than likely better across the board in low light situations.

The canon adds excellent video and audio quality, standard SD memory and more availablity of accessories.

I have looked at many cameras prior to buying my A620 and the A70 and A50 prior to it. I keep coming back to my canons.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Gee, I wonder how many of these canon people actually look at other brands objectively.

There is a lot the canon has going for it. The other two cameras may have marginally better overall picture quality and more than likely better across the board in low light situations.

The canon adds excellent video and audio quality, standard SD memory and more availablity of accessories.

I have looked at many cameras prior to buying my A620 and the A70 and A50 prior to it. I keep coming back to my canons.

Each to their own, but I buy cameras to take pictures.
BTW I personally have an SD200 too. Compliments my DSLR nicely when I want something compact.

 

[alkemyst]

I look to capture moments and have it with me.

My brother is a professional photographer (as a hobby, but went through all the schooling)...he downgraded his dSLR rig to buy a G5 to have it with him more. His financee always has her SD700 IS so they don't miss any shots really. When he knows they are wanting the best pictures he brings along his camera, like me. Most of the time I leave my A620 at home.

The video ability of the cameras is equally impressive. Video > pictures most of the time.

Also the ability to pick up another SD card almost anywhere now is great. This is why I also shoot with cameras taking normal batteries. You never know when you run out of juice or memory. We brought 4GB total on my last 1 week vacation...my wife burned through it in 4 days even deleting the bad pics. I know there was only Compact Flash and SD memory where we bought for any kind of reasonable price. The Sony and xD was jacked up.

I will agree though the Fuji and Sony have a bit better image quality. I am also willing to beat under most people's printing that advantage is lost...except low light situations in high ISO.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: RossMAN
Anything but Kodak and HP.

Another vote for Canon PowerShot SD600, Dell had it on sale for $171 with free shipping.

Why not a Kodak?


I voted Kodak as I just got a C875. Its 8mp, 5x optical zoom, and can be had for less then $220.

C875 specs...

Kodaks are infamous for quality issues and they arn't any cheaper. Staying away from Kodak becuase you can get a equally priced Canon/Nikon without those issues.

Actually Kodak has been getting better a while back.

KODAK EASYSHARE Digital Cameras ranked "Highest in Customer Satisfaction with Digital Cameras?$200-$399, Three Years in a Row"
J.D. Power and Associates ranked KODAK EASYSHARE Digital Cameras highest in customer satisfaction in the $200-$399 price range*.
Since the J.D. Power and Associates Digital Camera Satisfaction StudySM was introduced in 2004, Kodak is the only brand to rank highest in a single segment for three straight years.

Kodak's Mary Hadley discusses the importance of the J. D. Power and Associates award.

http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml?pq-locale=en_US&pq-path=4643



http://www.jdpower.com/presspass/pr/images/2004134b.gif

Mind you Canon was 2nd.

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Gee, I wonder how many of these canon people actually look at other brands objectively.

Yes I do, but what is the point?

The point is after doing some research you can find better cameras instead of just jumping into the canon bandwagon

Meh, you might be able to find a better camera. Here are the facts:

The Canon is not a bad camera, just maybe not the best in PQ
The Canon is "in"/"cute" which is the factor for most girls picking out a camera
Canon media is the cheapest
While Canon picture quality may not be the best, but their build quality is at the top

Canon uses SD, many other brands use SD too, thus how could you claim canon media is the cheapest?
Canon was never known for their build quality either. In fact, the 350D is known to have the worst build quality compared to their competitors.
Small cameras are "in/cute". Canon's SD series fit that, but so do many other brands.
Canon has some good cameras that's the best in their class, but not the SD600.

Why is the Ipod so popular? Becuase it's the best? Hardly, you fight that good fight though.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Gee, I wonder how many of these canon people actually look at other brands objectively.

Yes I do, but what is the point?

The point is after doing some research you can find better cameras instead of just jumping into the canon bandwagon

Meh, you might be able to find a better camera. Here are the facts:

The Canon is not a bad camera, just maybe not the best in PQ
The Canon is "in"/"cute" which is the factor for most girls picking out a camera
Canon media is the cheapest
While Canon picture quality may not be the best, but their build quality is at the top

Canon uses SD, many other brands use SD too, thus how could you claim canon media is the cheapest?
Canon was never known for their build quality either. In fact, the 350D is known to have the worst build quality compared to their competitors.
Small cameras are "in/cute". Canon's SD series fit that, but so do many other brands.
Canon has some good cameras that's the best in their class, but not the SD600.

Why is the Ipod so popular? Becuase it's the best? Hardly, you fight that good fight though.

So are you telling the OP to choose canon on the basis that it's popular, and may not even be the best? That says a lot about the canon bandwagon here. :roll:
Canon fanboys are starting to remind me of intel, back in the P4 days. People buying it based on brand recognition without considering anything else.
Great way to make a good purchase. :roll:

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Gee, I wonder how many of these canon people actually look at other brands objectively.

Yes I do, but what is the point?

The point is after doing some research you can find better cameras instead of just jumping into the canon bandwagon

Meh, you might be able to find a better camera. Here are the facts:

The Canon is not a bad camera, just maybe not the best in PQ
The Canon is "in"/"cute" which is the factor for most girls picking out a camera
Canon media is the cheapest
While Canon picture quality may not be the best, but their build quality is at the top

Canon uses SD, many other brands use SD too, thus how could you claim canon media is the cheapest?
Canon was never known for their build quality either. In fact, the 350D is known to have the worst build quality compared to their competitors.
Small cameras are "in/cute". Canon's SD series fit that, but so do many other brands.
Canon has some good cameras that's the best in their class, but not the SD600.

Why is the Ipod so popular? Becuase it's the best? Hardly, you fight that good fight though.

So are you telling the OP to choose canon on the basis that it's popular, and may not even be the best? That says a lot about the canon bandwagon here. :roll:
Canon fanboys are starting to remind me of intel, back in the P4 days. People buying it based on brand recognition without considering anything else.
Great way to make a good purchase. :roll:

haha, the finger pointed at ignorance should be pointed at a mirror. You missed my point completely. Again, you keep thinking about irrelavent facts. All you do is see that someone needs a camera.

I am far from a Canon fanboy, but thanks.

 

[Geekbabe]

I love my Canon

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Gee, I wonder how many of these canon people actually look at other brands objectively.

Yes I do, but what is the point?

The point is after doing some research you can find better cameras instead of just jumping into the canon bandwagon

Meh, you might be able to find a better camera. Here are the facts:

The Canon is not a bad camera, just maybe not the best in PQ
The Canon is "in"/"cute" which is the factor for most girls picking out a camera
Canon media is the cheapest
While Canon picture quality may not be the best, but their build quality is at the top

Canon uses SD, many other brands use SD too, thus how could you claim canon media is the cheapest?
Canon was never known for their build quality either. In fact, the 350D is known to have the worst build quality compared to their competitors.
Small cameras are "in/cute". Canon's SD series fit that, but so do many other brands.
Canon has some good cameras that's the best in their class, but not the SD600.

Why is the Ipod so popular? Becuase it's the best? Hardly, you fight that good fight though.

So are you telling the OP to choose canon on the basis that it's popular, and may not even be the best? That says a lot about the canon bandwagon here. :roll:
Canon fanboys are starting to remind me of intel, back in the P4 days. People buying it based on brand recognition without considering anything else.
Great way to make a good purchase. :roll:

haha, the finger pointed at ignorance should be pointed at a mirror. You missed my point completely. Again, you keep thinking about irrelavent facts. All you do is see that someone needs a camera.

I am far from a Canon fanboy, but thanks.

So instead of explaining your poorly presented points, you chose to make personal attacks.
You still haven't made a convincing argument on why to choose canon without considering anything else.

 

[ElFenix]

my gf is having good luck with the panasonic FX01, which is inexpensive, uses SD memory, and comes in a variety of colors.

 

[imported_Mike]

virtualgames0, your lack of knowledge is not in cameras. You know cameras, we both know that. Here is the problem, you don't know consumers.

Is every camera that Canon puts on the market the best? No
Should consumers only look at Canon cameras? No
Does Canon have the best compact cameras? Not all of them
Are there several companies that make cameras that have better PQ, easier to use, and all around more features then Canon? You bet

So, I can sit here and tell the OP that there is probably a camera for the same price by another manufacture that will do several things the Canon won't. Whether it's easier to use, or has slightly better PQ, the OP would get more for his money.

All these are well and good for photographers, which is the problem you are having. Your mindset is that of a photographers', you fail to look at who is going to be using this camera.

The OPs GF isn't going to give a flying sh!t if there is a camera out there that has better picture quality and has more control. She won't care if you can change the ISO or change the shutter speed. All she cares about is if it will take good *Note, NOT the best* pictures, looks cute, fits in her purse, and is popular.

You cannot tell me the Canon won't do all of those things. Yes, there is a camera that will take better pictures, but that is irrelavent as odd as it sounds. Average consumers only care about what is popular, what looks good, more is better, etc.

Just like the Ipod, it isn't the best, but it's "cute", fits in the pocket/purse, and is popular. Consumers care more about those attributes, then about quality.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Mike
virtualgames0, your lack of knowledge is not in cameras. You know cameras, we both know that. Here is the problem, you don't know consumers.

Is every camera that Canon puts on the market the best? No
Should consumers only look at Canon cameras? No
Does Canon have the best compact cameras? Not all of them
Are there several companies that make cameras that have better PQ, easier to use, and all around more features then Canon? You bet

So, I can sit here and tell the OP that there is probably a camera for the same price by another manufacture that will do several things the Canon won't. Whether it's easier to use, or has slightly better PQ, the OP would get more for his money.

All these are well and good for photographers, which is the problem you are having. Your mindset is that of a photographers', you fail to look at who is going to be using this camera.

The OPs GF isn't going to give a flying sh!t if there is a camera out there that has better picture quality and has more control. She won't care if you can change the ISO or change the shutter speed. All she cares about is if it will take good *Note, NOT the best* pictures, looks cute, fits in her purse, and is popular.

You cannot tell me the Canon won't do all of those things. Yes, there is a camera that will take better pictures, but that is irrelavent as odd as it sounds. Average consumers only care about what is popular, what looks good, more is better, etc.

Just like the Ipod, it isn't the best, but it's "cute", fits in the pocket/purse, and is popular. Consumers care more about those attributes, then about quality.

That's bullshit. Canon SD series doesn't have anywhere near the same kind of fashion trend as the iPod. Canon may have the name brand recognition, but that's between average nerds like ATOTers, but hardly between trendy bitches. They don't even look unique or stylish to begin with. They are plain, silver, and average looking. A trendy, hip camera that a girl would want as a fashion accessory would be something more along the lines of the mini canon SD's, or Sony T series, or what my gf told me what her cousin said when she saw the Fuji Z3.. "ohhhhh i like that pink cover." And the Sony W50 looks as stylish as the Canon SD600, if not more.
The only way your argument would work for is if you replace cute and fits in purse with cool and trendy, and consumer with ATOT. :roll:

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Mike
virtualgames0, your lack of knowledge is not in cameras. You know cameras, we both know that. Here is the problem, you don't know consumers.

Is every camera that Canon puts on the market the best? No
Should consumers only look at Canon cameras? No
Does Canon have the best compact cameras? Not all of them
Are there several companies that make cameras that have better PQ, easier to use, and all around more features then Canon? You bet

So, I can sit here and tell the OP that there is probably a camera for the same price by another manufacture that will do several things the Canon won't. Whether it's easier to use, or has slightly better PQ, the OP would get more for his money.

All these are well and good for photographers, which is the problem you are having. Your mindset is that of a photographers', you fail to look at who is going to be using this camera.

The OPs GF isn't going to give a flying sh!t if there is a camera out there that has better picture quality and has more control. She won't care if you can change the ISO or change the shutter speed. All she cares about is if it will take good *Note, NOT the best* pictures, looks cute, fits in her purse, and is popular.

You cannot tell me the Canon won't do all of those things. Yes, there is a camera that will take better pictures, but that is irrelavent as odd as it sounds. Average consumers only care about what is popular, what looks good, more is better, etc.

Just like the Ipod, it isn't the best, but it's "cute", fits in the pocket/purse, and is popular. Consumers care more about those attributes, then about quality.

That's bullshit. Canon SD series doesn't have anywhere near the same kind of fashion trend as the iPod. Canon may have the name brand recognition, but that's between average nerds like ATOTers, but hardly between trendy bitches. They don't even look unique or stylish to begin with. They are plain, silver, and average looking. A trendy, hip camera that a girl would want as a fashion accessory would be something more along the lines of the mini canon SD's, or Sony T series, or what my gf told me what her cousin said when she saw the Fuji Z3.. "ohhhhh i like that pink cover." And the Sony W50 looks as stylish as the Canon SD600, if not more.
The only way your argument would work for is if you replace cute with cool and trendy, and girl with ATOT. :roll:

Way to pass off your opinion as fact? Canon SD series are "trendy" regardless of what you may believe.

Like I said though, you fight that good fight.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Mike

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Mike
virtualgames0, your lack of knowledge is not in cameras. You know cameras, we both know that. Here is the problem, you don't know consumers.

Is every camera that Canon puts on the market the best? No
Should consumers only look at Canon cameras? No
Does Canon have the best compact cameras? Not all of them
Are there several companies that make cameras that have better PQ, easier to use, and all around more features then Canon? You bet

So, I can sit here and tell the OP that there is probably a camera for the same price by another manufacture that will do several things the Canon won't. Whether it's easier to use, or has slightly better PQ, the OP would get more for his money.

All these are well and good for photographers, which is the problem you are having. Your mindset is that of a photographers', you fail to look at who is going to be using this camera.

The OPs GF isn't going to give a flying sh!t if there is a camera out there that has better picture quality and has more control. She won't care if you can change the ISO or change the shutter speed. All she cares about is if it will take good *Note, NOT the best* pictures, looks cute, fits in her purse, and is popular.

You cannot tell me the Canon won't do all of those things. Yes, there is a camera that will take better pictures, but that is irrelavent as odd as it sounds. Average consumers only care about what is popular, what looks good, more is better, etc.

Just like the Ipod, it isn't the best, but it's "cute", fits in the pocket/purse, and is popular. Consumers care more about those attributes, then about quality.

That's bullshit. Canon SD series doesn't have anywhere near the same kind of fashion trend as the iPod. Canon may have the name brand recognition, but that's between average nerds like ATOTers, but hardly between trendy bitches. They don't even look unique or stylish to begin with. They are plain, silver, and average looking. A trendy, hip camera that a girl would want as a fashion accessory would be something more along the lines of the mini canon SD's, or Sony T series, or what my gf told me what her cousin said when she saw the Fuji Z3.. "ohhhhh i like that pink cover." And the Sony W50 looks as stylish as the Canon SD600, if not more.
The only way your argument would work for is if you replace cute with cool and trendy, and girl with ATOT. :roll:

Way to pass off your opinion as fact? Canon SD series are "trendy" regardless of what you may believe.

Like I said though, you fight that good fight.

I find it ironic that YOU would be accusing me of passing off my opinions as fact.
I'm not the one who lumped all consumers into a small group of trendy girls who buy cameras based on looks and brand.
The only place I see canon as being trendy is on tech forums. And mind you, I know a lot of trendy girls.

 

[imported_Mike]

Well, Im done, Ive obsiously offended you and I can see where I did that. Wasn't intentional, but it happened. Believe me or not, I have real world experience, knowledge of real world sales numbers along with real world consumer opinions. ATOT not included. All the trendy girls you know can't come close to the numbers I have seen. My apologies for the unintentional offensive words I have used. I don't expect you to believe me, so Im not going to continue to try to convince you anymore.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Mike
Well, Im done, Ive obsiously offended you and I can see where I did that. Wasn't intentional, but it happened. Believe me or not, I have real world experience, knowledge of real world sales numbers along with real world consumer opinions. ATOT not included. All the trendy girls you know can't come close to the numbers I have seen. My apologies for the unintentional offensive words I have used. I don't expect you to believe me, so Im not going to continue to try to convince you anymore.

I wouldn't say offended is a good word to describe it, maybe more amused by your ridiculous arguments.
Let me ask you this.. would you recommend bose speakers to someone's gf that was looking for some speakers? It has the name brand and recognition, and she likely doesn't know what good sound is. It's something she can show off to her friends.

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Mike
Well, Im done, Ive obsiously offended you and I can see where I did that. Wasn't intentional, but it happened. Believe me or not, I have real world experience, knowledge of real world sales numbers along with real world consumer opinions. ATOT not included. All the trendy girls you know can't come close to the numbers I have seen. My apologies for the unintentional offensive words I have used. I don't expect you to believe me, so Im not going to continue to try to convince you anymore.

I wouldn't say offended is a good word to describe it, maybe more amused by your ridiculous arguments.
Let me ask you this.. would you recommend bose speakers to someone's gf that was looking for some speakers? It has the name brand and recognition, and she likely doesn't know what good sound is. It's something she can show off to her friends.

That is a bad analogy on price point alone, but Ill play along.

It's something she can show off to her friends.

If that is her goal, then why not?

EDIT: There is a large difference between not knowing and not caring...you're confusing the 2.

 

[imported_Mike]

What I find interesting is the fact that you refuse to accept the fact that the majority of consumers are completely ignorant when it comes to purchasing goods and do not care to educate themselves.

You keep mentioning how Canon fanboys are stuck in ATOT land when I think it is you who is stuck on anandtech. On Anandtech, the majority of the members are intelligent consumers with the knowhow to reaserch and compare consumer products. While this small 100k sample of American consumerism is the extreme minority and is by no means an insight to the real world.

Face it, consumers are dumb and care more about looks and what other people think of them then they do about quality. As soon as you come to grips with that fact, the sooner you will find my posts less amusing and more matter of fact.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Mike
What I find interesting is the fact that you refuse to accept the fact that the majority of consumers are completely ignorant when it comes to purchasing goods and do not care to educate themselves.

You keep mentioning how Canon fanboys are stuck in ATOT land when I think it is you who is stuck on anandtech. On Anandtech, the majority of the members are intelligent consumers with the knowhow to reaserch and compare consumer products. While this small 100k sample of American consumerism is the extreme minority and is by no means an insight to the real world.

Face it, consumers are dumb and care more about looks and what other people think of them then they do about quality. As soon as you come to grips with that fact, the sooner you will find my posts less amusing and more matter of fact.

Your posts are filled with misassumptions after misassumptions. Let me know when you're done picking at straws.
It's true that the majority of consumers are ignorant when it comes to purchasing goods. I never denied that or argued against that. It's true that a certain niche of the market does not care about picture quality, and just wants a camera as a fashion accessory. But Canon SD series quite blatantly doesn't fall into that.
Face it, canon fanboys are generally nerds. Most became fanboys because of the digital rebel revolution. I've had tons of nerds come up and tell me how cool canon is. Canon simply doesn't have the advertisement coverage of the ipod either. They definitely do not have the hip image behind them. Never once had I had a trendy chick tell me they want a canon. Nor would they want to. Could you imaging a girl raving to her friends how good her canon camera is? That would be so nerdy, no girl would do that, especially not for a camera that looks as damn mediocre as the SD series. If they ever raved about a cool camera, it would usually be the smallest one on the market. I had chicks show me the panasonic d-snap, sony m2, casio exlim.
Thus your argument for choosing the canon as a fashion accessory is moot. If she wanted a camera as a fashion accessory, there are plenty of more stylish cameras to choose from. SD600 isn't stylish. Period.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Mike
What I find interesting is the fact that you refuse to accept the fact that the majority of consumers are completely ignorant when it comes to purchasing goods and do not care to educate themselves.

You keep mentioning how Canon fanboys are stuck in ATOT land when I think it is you who is stuck on anandtech. On Anandtech, the majority of the members are intelligent consumers with the knowhow to reaserch and compare consumer products. While this small 100k sample of American consumerism is the extreme minority and is by no means an insight to the real world.

Face it, consumers are dumb and care more about looks and what other people think of them then they do about quality. As soon as you come to grips with that fact, the sooner you will find my posts less amusing and more matter of fact.

Your posts are filled with misassumptions after misassumptions. Let me know when you're done picking at straws.
It's true that the majority of consumers are ignorant when it comes to purchasing goods. I never denied that or argued against that. It's true that a certain niche of the market does not care about picture quality, and just wants a camera as a fashion accessory. But Canon SD series quite blatantly doesn't fall into that.
Face it, canon fanboys are generally nerds. Most became fanboys because of the digital rebel revolution. I've had tons of nerds come up and tell me how cool canon is. Canon simply doesn't have the advertisement coverage of the ipod either. They definitely do not have the hip image behind them. Never once had I had a trendy chick tell me they want a canon. Nor would they want to. Could you imaging a girl raving to her friends how good her canon camera is? That would be so nerdy, no girl would do that, especially not for a camera that looks as damn mediocre as the SD series. If they ever raved about a cool camera, it would usually be the smallest one on the market. I had chicks show me the panasonic d-snap, sony m2, casio exlim.
Thus your argument for choosing the canon as a fashion accessory is moot. If she wanted a camera as a fashion accessory, there are plenty of more stylish cameras to choose from. SD600 isn't stylish. Period.

WTF...you are deluded and seem to have an amazingly different life than people, tons of nerds coming up to you showing their canon, you must work in Best Buy or Circuit City then.

BTW in Japan your digital camera for chicks is an accessory. Beaded and crystaled up. Like their nails and other bits.

The SD series are nice looking and expensive looking cameras though. They get the job done. My wife's SD450 takes awesome pictures for the venue she is photoing. If it's mission critical dSLR or high end film is what anyone should use.

It's obvious you are a non-canon advocate. Why not buy one of the cameras you are recommending to others if you are so hard on it?

Most cameras today are more than adequate for most. Many can't take a good shot. *edit since I wasn't clear here* They aren't looking at ISO, they aren't bracketing shots, they are just using AUTO and letting it fly more than likely flash always on especially on those distance shots ....

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Mike
What I find interesting is the fact that you refuse to accept the fact that the majority of consumers are completely ignorant when it comes to purchasing goods and do not care to educate themselves.

You keep mentioning how Canon fanboys are stuck in ATOT land when I think it is you who is stuck on anandtech. On Anandtech, the majority of the members are intelligent consumers with the knowhow to reaserch and compare consumer products. While this small 100k sample of American consumerism is the extreme minority and is by no means an insight to the real world.

Face it, consumers are dumb and care more about looks and what other people think of them then they do about quality. As soon as you come to grips with that fact, the sooner you will find my posts less amusing and more matter of fact.

Your posts are filled with misassumptions after misassumptions. Let me know when you're done picking at straws.
It's true that the majority of consumers are ignorant when it comes to purchasing goods. I never denied that or argued against that. It's true that a certain niche of the market does not care about picture quality, and just wants a camera as a fashion accessory. But Canon SD series quite blatantly doesn't fall into that.
Face it, canon fanboys are generally nerds. Most became fanboys because of the digital rebel revolution. I've had tons of nerds come up and tell me how cool canon is. Canon simply doesn't have the advertisement coverage of the ipod either. They definitely do not have the hip image behind them. Never once had I had a trendy chick tell me they want a canon. Nor would they want to. Could you imaging a girl raving to her friends how good her canon camera is? That would be so nerdy, no girl would do that, especially not for a camera that looks as damn mediocre as the SD series. If they ever raved about a cool camera, it would usually be the smallest one on the market. I had chicks show me the panasonic d-snap, sony m2, casio exlim.
Thus your argument for choosing the canon as a fashion accessory is moot. If she wanted a camera as a fashion accessory, there are plenty of more stylish cameras to choose from. SD600 isn't stylish. Period.

WTF...you are deluded and seem to have an amazingly different life than people, tons of nerds coming up to you showing their canon, you must work in Best Buy or Circuit City then.

BTW in Japan your digital camera for chicks is an accessory. Beaded and crystaled up. Like their nails and other bits.

The SD series are nice looking and expensive looking cameras though. They get the job done. My wife's SD450 takes awesome pictures for the venue she is photoing. If it's mission critical dSLR or high end film is what anyone should use.

It's obvious you are a non-canon advocate. Why not buy one of the cameras you are recommending to others if you are so hard on it?

Most cameras today are more than adequate for most. Many can't take a good shot. *edit since I wasn't clear here* They aren't looking at ISO, they aren't bracketing shots, they are just using AUTO and letting it fly more than likely flash always on especially on those distance shots ....

Did you even read my post? I stated that there are people who want cameras as fashion accessories. But my post is about how canon SD series doesn't fit as fashion accessories as they are mediocre looking.
Everything about your post pretty much agrees with what I said. I don't see what you're trying to refute here.

 

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While we're on the subject, what's a good carry case for the Canon SD630? I don't want something too expensive, maybe around $10-$20.